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Author Topic: Chameleon Task Manager on offer at Bits du Jour 2011-12-01  (Read 2992 times)
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« on: December 01, 2011, 05:54:37 AM »

Chameleon Task Manager is on on offer at Bits du Jour today, 2011-12-01.  50% off: $14.97 instead of $29.95.  Here's the BdJ blurb:
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Chameleon Task Manager
A Better Alternative to Windows Task Manager

Windows Task Manager - you know it, you don't love it, but you use it because you have no other alternative. Or do you? How would you like an app that replaces Windows Task Manager, enabling you to do everything that you're used to doing with Windows Task Manager, but even better, faster, and with a bunch of additional features? If you are nodding your head enthusiastically and clapping wildly, read on for more details on Chameleon Task Manager.

Chameleon Task Manager gives you complete control over the processes that are running on your computer, giving you much more detailed information about your programs than Windows Task Manager can even dream about. With Chameleon Task Manager, you'll have a way to automatically manage background processes that hog CPU or disk usage, reducing their priority to allow current programs to fly like the wind. An optimizer determines exactly how much memory a program needs, so you're sure that every bit of RAM that's in use is by design.

Have you ever taken a peek at your process list and been aghast at the number of programs that are running in the background? Chameleon Task Manager gives you control over when programs are allowed to run, either after other programs have finished or started, or on certain days - so you can set annoying, but necessary, system scans to run on weekends when you're out partying, instead of when you're trying to work during the week! You can even set Chameleon Task Manager to automatically kill processes, preventing unnecessary programs from running at all.

Lastly, you'll get an added layer of protection and peace of mind with Chameleon Task Manager. Newly launched programs result in instant notifications, and Chameleon Task Manager is smart enough to check the files of all programs to quickly identify modified files. And with the handy resource usage statistics, you'll be able to instantly see which of your programs use the most resources!
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It's been mentioned on DC in these threads, amongst others:
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 04:02:53 PM »

And I actually went ahead with the Chameleon Startup Manager, which was also on sale, and I have been using the freebie. Nice product, and Evengi has always been ace.  It is a bit harder to justify the Task Manager, even at $15, since so much of the special functionality is in the overlap area of Process Lasso and Process Tamer, which are more specialized tools and it is an area where multiple tools can conflict ... so I passed on it for now.

Steven
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 06:07:13 PM »

Hi, Steven.  Did you decide to use Chameleon Startup Manager with WinPatrol, or are you just using Chameleon?  I ask simply because I thought I remembered your saying some time ago that you used WinPatrol Plus, but perhaps I'm not remembering correctly.  (It's been known to happen  smiley )
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 08:52:05 PM »

Hi,

Generally speaking I will use them together.  This may duplicate some warnings in the Professional Chameleon (the freebie does not do that warning stuff) .. I tend to not mind dup warnings, anyway.  In fact, I think I may have Anvir giving warnings on one puter or user as well. (To be fair, it seems to do so in rather a pleasant and informative manner.)  Sometimes I may let one product drift off of current usage.

I do consider WinPatrol and Chameleon as reasonably complimentary.  WinPatrol is heavily oriented to security and ferreting out all possible startup problems .. Chameleon (and also Metaproducts Startup Organizer, which does do warnings in an interesting manner where it puts all the changes in one box if it has been asleep for awhile, quite impressive) is more designed to user experience enhancements, simple visibilities, changes to startup, configurations, delays, etc.   Plus Evgeni's person support and pleasantness behind the product.

On the whole, Startup is a high priority security area, so I do not mind  a bit of extra, even redundant, visibility and coverage, (You do not make too many changes a day anyway, so redundancy is not a real problem.) I do not get into all the shadow and imaging and restoring stuff, I simply like my puter to be running good and I try to remember to save the data externally if something goes wrong, and I keep early images only.  The last few years have been thankfully mostly trouble-free, using layered security.

Note: I am not really encouraging more than one, I am just saying it works fine, it is not like anti-virus and task priority or shadow/virtual systems and many other areas where the playground gets messy. Overall, I do think that startup is underrated in terms of security visibility and significance and that it rates right with firewall and browser care (security is hard to make into categories, HIPS, anti-virus, etc.) Only the dedicated startup programs really understand how it works and the security suites are dubious in this area.

Bill at WinPatrol makes startup security his key, even looking at things like "IE Helpers" and the Windows Scheduler and secret and difficult hiding places floating around the registry or wherever, always looking for the latest baddie methods. (Evgeni origiinally did not do services, and has it in the new task manager product, so you would need both startup and task for the more complete Evgeni support). The biggest concern is that it is hard for these, even in pro versions, to be "zero-moment" protection, against the type of malware that forces an immediate reboot. That is why you have to have good internet and .exe sense.

Overall, I do recommend going "professional" in one of the better programs and would never recommend a happy WinPatrol user to do a replacement ... security trumps startup ease and I do not place any other program quite up there with WinPatrol in that category.

As to security warnings, I will say that (this is not startup) MBAM - Malwarwebytes - seems to give some of the very best HIPS-oriented, I only noted that it can be, at times, a CPU hog.  I am talking about the realtime mode, which I have played with the last months after some deal, rather than just on-demand scanning.

Steven
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 08:21:16 AM »

Thanks very much, Steven, for your very helpful response.  I'm glad to know that some duplication in function between startup managers doesn't wreak havoc on the computer the way using two AV programs often does.  I've been very happy using just WinPatrol Plus for startup matters, though at times I wish it had more (or more current) information about the programs it tells me about.  But I haven't found any other program I like as well.  I should note that I haven't tried Chameleon or Startup Organizer.

I also agree about the usefulness of realtime Malwarebytes Pro, as well as the fact that it can be a CPU hog at times.  In spite of this problem and an occasional false positive (which the company tends to acknowledge and cure very quickly), I really like MBAM Pro.

Thanks again.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2012, 09:37:06 AM »

Hi,

Chameleon is back today at Bits !
Oh, wait that is startup manager .. I will have to find that thread, and let this one fall down.

You can see my comments there, but I suggested watching here as well.
http://www.bitsdujour.com...chameleon-startup-manager

The more I look at Chameleon Startup, the more impressed I am.  I used to grumble a bit because it does not integrate a Task Manager (separate program, which I do not use) .. however I have totally gone past that grumble-bumble.  The program is really top-notch.  

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Note: I may have been confusing Malwarebytes with Mamutu.  At the moment I have neither in realtime.

Steven
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2012, 06:39:46 AM »

Only today 50% discount on the PRO version: http://www.chameleon-mana...indows-task-manager/gaod/

and the standard version for free: http://www.giveawayofthed...chameleon-task-manager31/
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 06:54:58 AM »


Only today 50% discount on the PRO version: http://www.chameleon-mana...indows-task-manager/gaod/
and the standard version for free: http://www.giveawayofthed...chameleon-task-manager31/
I like the idea of getting the software since Evgeni is responsive and actually enhancing his programs.

On the other hand, in terms of the Pro .. we have overlap, with some of the pro skills overlapping with Process Tamer and Lasso (maybe Anvir has those skills too).  I will conjecture that you really want to settle on one, and that will probably be Tamer or Lasso.  Note, though, that Chameleon is strong on "configurations" (very well implemented in the Startup program) so it may be competitive in that tweak mix.

The resource usage statistics may be good too.  Lots of programs show you usage at a glance, few give you a longer perspective.

Security Patrol sounds like a little HIPs oriented, probably some overlap, probably nice in some ways.

$30 with the discount ?  Close call on my end. May do it partly because I know that Evgeni is so active. It is true that (unlike Startup) there are a number of very worthy and solid alternatives, freeware or freemium.  (First time I ever wrote that word .. hmmm.. checking for thunder and lightning.)

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If not the Pro, the Standard download will be good.  An opportunity to compare, without concern of quick expiration. I still consider DTaskManager the solidity standard.  That is the one I use to actually replace the Windows TM. A lot of times System Explorer says "load me too".

Steven
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2012, 11:29:52 PM »

Correction - $15 for the pro on the deal today at GAOTD

The program is fun to work with.  No direct integration with startup manager. It would take a while to compare A, B, C.  The ultra-configurable column layout is nice, lots of good info.  2+hours to decide....zzzz

Here are the pro features:

Task configurations management
Any number of configurations can be created and loaded if necessary

Resource usage statistics
Thus you can determine which programs use the most resources, slowing down the computer

Security control
Checking program files for modifications and notifications about new programs

And  you get a full, real registration to the top-line product (unless there is a supercalifragilistical ultimate). Actually if the program went network, enterprise, that would be sort of justified (network edition).

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Notice that the suggestion box of GAOTD was for the most part quite sensible.
http://www.giveawayofthed...nt-page-1/#comment-281128
(Not the voting score, though.)

Any thoughts of note ?  Splurge for the pro ?  (One issue is whether I should be using configurations or whether such management should all be in Process Tamer or Lasso.  Is there management that is not overlap ?)

Resource Usage Statistics has some pizazz.

Security Control would have to be tested out compared to the current HIPS mix.

There is probably enough there for the Paypal account dent.  However, that is partly because I have become a solid fan of Chameleon Startup Manager (especially the configuration implementation) and share my feedback with Evgeni.  Not necessarily because of a gaping need.

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Ok, went for it.  Checked the 3 puters-1 user policy, which is fine.  Considered waiting so as to buy Bits or here, rather than Giveaway, but felt it best simply to get it done and work with the full program.

And correction: Startup Manager and Task Manager apparently do at least share the same tray source program.

Steven
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2012, 02:53:02 PM »

Chameleon Startup Manager v4 has just entered beta. For those who have not purchased it yet, you can get it for 50% (pro version) while the product is in beta.

Direct link for more info

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New in this version

Support for Services and Task Scheduler
Many launch parameters (Internet connection, specified time, closing after a delay, etc.)
Many launch conditions (run if the computer is connected to the Internet, not more than once within the specified time interval, if the computer is idle, etc.)
Individual launch settings, delays, and order depending on the day and time
Compact mode (leaves maximum space for program data display)

Updated in this version

Improved performance
The interface has been redesigned
Full support for Windows 8

In future versions

Support for additionally launched items, such as Explorer extensions
Startup and shutdown performance

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