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Cloq:
It's amazing that amount "crap" that various applications pre-install (think auto update programs for instance) that I would have never realized (thereby wouldn't have known to remove/delete those extra apps) without an interactive "personal firewall".-Cloq (November 19, 2011, 11:36 AM)
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Might sound a bit harsh, but: Use your brain. A "personal firewall" is not meant to replace your own thinking. If you don't know what an application actually installs, use snapshots of your system. If you don't want to, I can't see your actual problem with that.

Oh: ESS is not made for malware detection, it features a virus scanner, not a "potentially unwanted software" scanner. :)
-Tuxman (November 19, 2011, 12:19 PM)
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I am not sure how your average user is suppose to know the mind of an author/programmer that is devious in hiding unwanted processes/applications on startup/installation.

What seems to a common trend now is for installations to tack on various toolbars and spyware apps. Even a few of the trusted applications that I use, the newer versions now bundle junk with it, so you have to babysit the damn install and uncheck the junk.

An interactive personal firewall is useful as a first line of defense, it can alert the user that some app wanting out.

ESS like many other antivirus (started off as) programs are now trying to throw in the kitchen sink with their program so they try to be a jack of all trades in that area but are not always successful in every field.

Tuxman:
I am not sure how your average user is suppose to know the mind of an author/programmer that is devious in hiding unwanted processes/applications on startup/installation.
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Don't install software you do not trust. Simple as that.

An interactive personal firewall is useful as a first line of defense, it can alert the user that some app wanting out.
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That's why malicious software seldomly says "hi, I'm malicious-software.exe".

J-Mac:
Yeah Tux, but most here at DC are pretty savvy about software/adware/malware, etc. and still get burned every once in a while. Think of the poor newbies who don’t have many clues at all regarding safe software! Like many members' Moms for example. If someone isn't watching over all their installations, they are pretty much SOL!

Jim

Tuxman:
Mistakes are made to learn from them. ;)

Stoic Joker:
That's why malicious software seldomly says "hi, I'm malicious-software.exe".-Tuxman (November 19, 2011, 01:44 PM)
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Hm... (Let's Experiment) Hi, I'm Malicious Software:

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