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zridling:
It's not Internet access the government is afraid of. It's cheap, ubiquitous, unrestricted, unmonitored, and open access that scares them out of their minds. -40hz (July 01, 2011, 09:19 AM)
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Which is also why sites (and companies) all around from Google to 4chan regularly cooperate with the FBI in handing over "evidence" to be used against you.

barney:
It's not Internet access the government is afraid of. It's cheap, ubiquitous, unrestricted, unmonitored, and open access that scares them out of their minds. -40hz (July 01, 2011, 09:19 AM)
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Which is also why sites (and companies) all around from Google to 4chan regularly cooperate with the FBI in handing over "evidence" to be used against you.
-zridling (August 06, 2011, 06:28 PM)
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Tee-hee  :P,  Minds me of Jackie Gleason's evadince in Smokey and the Bandit (an old Burt Reynolds feel-good film, if you're not familiar with it), and would be equally as funny if it didn't hit so close to home  :o.

Renegade:
It's not Internet access the government is afraid of. It's cheap, ubiquitous, unrestricted, unmonitored, and open access that scares them out of their minds. -40hz (July 01, 2011, 09:19 AM)
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Which is also why sites (and companies) all around from Google to 4chan regularly cooperate with the FBI in handing over "evidence" to be used against you.
-zridling (August 06, 2011, 06:28 PM)
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I just see no reason why they should willingly cooperate. Google has been better than Yahoo there though. Got to hand it to them.

Some sites can help to avoid problems though. There are a slew of VPNs out there that are relatively cheap. iPredator.se and Privacy.io do not keep logs, so that makes them significantly safer to use.

Carol Haynes:
Can't really see how this could work even if ISPs were prepared to take on the role.

Is every ISP going to have to vet every download file and scan every webpage and email for illegal content? What would the legal ramifications be if they took on the role but then missed a file - would the film lobby be able to sue the ISP for supplying illegal material?

If they were to take on this function their costs would rocket - so who would have to pay?

Otherwise simple coarse filtering will make the web unusable.

China have just discovered that even they can't control the internet following the recent train crash - what chance do private companies have.

It is also a golden opportunity for new ISPs to set up that don't conform to the voluntary agreement! They wouldn't have the costs so they would be the cheapest and most popular ISPs - back to square one.

Sorry I don't really see how it would be in the interests of ISPs to volutarily enter into this process - and most smaller ISPs would simply close shop.

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