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What is Mozilla trying to do?
Carol Haynes:
I've had to go back to ff 3.5 too. Ff5 is terrible; locks up using gmail and two browser windows open, can't position buttons on the taskbars without large empty areas wasted, can hardly see some of the buttons anyway, seen it do weird browser inside a browser window things.
I always liked ff because you could arrange the buttons and toolbars to maximise the space available. Now ff is just another clone of opera (or whichever browser started that top left menu rubbish). If firebug worked okay on other browsers I think I'd just drop ff completely - I really am so very disappointed with it.
-nudone (August 05, 2011, 11:33 PM)
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Not been my experience with FF5 - I have GMail open all the time and never had a single lockup, in fact whenever I open FF5 it opens 6 tabs including gmail, hotmail, facebook and DC and I have had no issues at all.
As for wasted space - the buttons are probably a bit bigger than they need to b (especially the ones with the superfluous drop down arrow) but I don't have huge spaces between them ???
I agree with the cloning issue though - all browser now seem to be converging on one look and feel - which seems to defeat the point of different browsers. Its got to the point now that I have to look quite hard to work out which browser is open!
For me FF still wins because of the add-on community - but I suspect that is going to get short lived as Mozilla seem to be using radpid version numbering to destroy obvious compatibility for so many addons. Yes I know you can override the version number in the addon but most people can't/won't do that and this seems to me to be stripping FF of its edge in the choice of browsers.
tomos:
For me FF still wins because of the add-on community - but I suspect that is going to get short lived as Mozilla seem to be using radpid version numbering to destroy obvious compatibility for so many addons. Yes I know you can override the version number in the addon but most people can't/won't do that and this seems to me to be stripping FF of its edge in the choice of browsers.
-Carol Haynes (August 07, 2011, 08:33 AM)
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ironic that their competitive paranoia is damaging their competitiveness.
Saying that, I use only a handful of addons and am happy with FF5
cyberdiva:
For me FF still wins because of the add-on community - but I suspect that is going to get short lived as Mozilla seem to be using radpid version numbering to destroy obvious compatibility for so many addons. Yes I know you can override the version number in the addon but most people can't/won't do that and this seems to me to be stripping FF of its edge in the choice of browsers.
-Carol Haynes (August 07, 2011, 08:33 AM)
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I strongly agree. I'm very happy with Firefox 5, which works well on my Windows 7 64-bit and aging WinXP Pro 32-bit computers. I have stayed with Firefox primarily because of the add-ons, but each so-called major upgrade creates havoc with some add-ons, and I know of some developers who are losing patience with the need to alter their add-ons with increasing frequency.
nudone:
Not been my experience with FF5 - I have GMail open all the time and never had a single lockup, in fact whenever I open FF5 it opens 6 tabs including gmail, hotmail, facebook and DC and I have had no issues at all.
-Carol Haynes (August 07, 2011, 08:33 AM)
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Probably something on my machine - but the problem isn't having several tabs open, it's having more than one FF5 browser window open. I've had it lock up using two different Windows 7 setups. The other "browser in a browser" problem I mentioned also happens when using more than one FF window. Just seems like the FF team have only been testing on single window users.
The button problem is a bit of an exaggeration. I just find it not as nice to look at as on FF3.5 - mainly because of the transparency behind the buttons (no, I'm not going to disable transparency on Win7 just so FF5+ looks okay). Also, I do have about 30 buttons visible in the top area, which was fine when they were against a solid background.
I've also seen FF5 rendering pages incorrectly, just slight 1 or 2 pixel problems (not a problem on FF3.5).
Curt:
Firefox 3, 4, 5, 6 ...
most of the time, we’ll release a new Firefox every 6 weeks
-Mozilla
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-Curt (July 25, 2011, 11:52 AM)
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