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Restore programs that were running at system shutdown (with selection)

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joiwind:
@ ath : true - my eyes aren't lined up this morning  ;D

MilesAhead:
To completely save state and restore on next power up-MilesAhead (May 27, 2011, 02:02 AM)
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Isn't that what's called 'hibernate' in Windows???
-Ath (May 27, 2011, 03:46 AM)
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I dunno' what they call it.  But I know it's the first thing I get rid of on a new machine.  I've never tried it.  Does it actually work if you hibernate then restore with unsaved files in editors? If you tally the support calls I'd venture hibernate/sleep/power accounts for about half. It's better just to run like they're not an option. If you want to save electricity, shut down.

tomos:
To completely save state and restore on next power up-MilesAhead (May 27, 2011, 02:02 AM)
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Isn't that what's called 'hibernate' in Windows???
-Ath (May 27, 2011, 03:46 AM)
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I dunno' what they call it.  But I know it's the first thing I get rid of on a new machine.  I've never tried it.  Does it actually work if you hibernate then restore with unsaved files in editors?
-MilesAhead (May 27, 2011, 04:27 PM)
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For me, yes :)
it's definitely worth a shot imo - I've consistenly used hibernate on two computers for about 8 years now ;-)
I had minor related problems on both - sleep didnt work well on the first - cant remember if I even tried that on the second; but did have problems on the second with a dodgy soundcard (I think) driver - it worked okay after a driver reinstall anyways (- it's at least two years ago, my memory doesnt bother remembering the details at that stage).

MilesAhead:
I don't really get the appeal of not hitting save in the editors I'm using.  But I don't have 20 windows open.  Maybe some people use 20 or 30 apps at once.  I just know when that stuff first came on the scene it was broken more often than not.  But I'm a skeptic. Took me a long time to try Chromium based browsers.  Now every other is just a backup.

edit: speaking of automatic save, one thing that still bugs me about Windows after using VMS for a short time is the lack of auto backup built into the file system.  Worked a bit like Tidy in AutoIt3 Scite editor.  Every time you did a Tidy it wrote a numbered backup before saving the current file.

Only in VMS it was built in. Just hit Save button in any editor and current MyFile.txt is saved, the most recent backup is MyFile.txt;1 next most recent MyFile.txt;2 etc..

There was a purge command to clean up excess backups.  Just backing up to one file with a .bak extension as is common in Windows is nearly useless.

Windows Seven Ultimate tries to do something similar with shadow copy and old versions of files, but it's not nearly as smooth.  Plus there seems to be some nebulous formula which files get old version backup and which don't.  Guess when they hired the VMS guys to do NT they didn't get the file system guys.  Too bad. :)

Armando:
I thought everybody used hibernate/sleep...  Except,maybe, Linux aficionados. Although... even Linux distros hibernate pretty well these days. :)

It's not really about hitting/not hitting save, but more about 1- not loosing time reopening every single app and document you were working on (that is, if you have several opened windows, etc.), 2- easily keep track of you were doing before "shutting down" your computer.

(BTW : I rarely hibernate/sleep without saving my work first.)

Like Tom, I might have had a few problems here and there, but overall, Hibernate, sleep etc. have been real saviors (owned three different laptops over the last 9-10 years, each running windows XP -- well... 2000 first). It's so important to me that I would probably consider switching to Apple if hibernate/sleep/standby weren't there... But maybe that's because I also have a lot of stuff in my startup folder and I usually have about 12-20 windows opened, etc. When I shutdown/restart, it takes so loooong before I can actually do something. I hate restarts.

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