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Apple Patent Reveals Extensive Stalking Plans
Stoic Joker:
Everyone here already has a vast vocabulary of profanities, obscenities, curse and swear words, so you already know my opinion on the topic. -Renegade (May 03, 2011, 04:09 PM)
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:( But you do it so well... :(
-Stoic Joker (May 03, 2011, 04:51 PM)
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I'm really trying to be more positive and avoid ranting. I'd rather rave about great products and services than scream about bad ones and evil companies. There's just nothing very good to say about Apple. :(-Renegade (May 03, 2011, 05:06 PM)
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Understood, but you had mentioned in another thread that you were curious about how much of the iTracking story was actually true/hype. So I was hoping to get your take on how well the patent story/angle held water (e.g. I know shit about patents).
The highlight of your rants has always been (for me anyway) your extremely in-depth understanding of the architecture & detail provided, the whit is always good, and screaming fuck of course is optional. ;)
Renegade:
Everyone here already has a vast vocabulary of profanities, obscenities, curse and swear words, so you already know my opinion on the topic. -Renegade (May 03, 2011, 04:09 PM)
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:( But you do it so well... :(
-Stoic Joker (May 03, 2011, 04:51 PM)
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I'm really trying to be more positive and avoid ranting. I'd rather rave about great products and services than scream about bad ones and evil companies. There's just nothing very good to say about Apple. :(-Renegade (May 03, 2011, 05:06 PM)
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Understood, but you had mentioned in another thread that you were curious about how much of the iTracking story was actually true/hype. So I was hoping to get your take on how well the patent story/angle held water (e.g. I know shit about patents).
The highlight of your rants has always been (for me anyway) your extremely in-depth understanding of the architecture & detail provided, the whit is always good, and screaming fuck of course is optional. ;)
-Stoic Joker (May 03, 2011, 06:05 PM)
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True - this pretty much nails Apple for a flat out black lie. It looks very much like they are more than guilty of everything they've been accused of, and more.
Looking at the patent briefly, it looks like nothing more than the normal, par for the course, average, every day common attempt to rape people/the patent system with obvious nonsense.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=bp0iAQAAEBAJ&dq=%22Location+histories+for+location+aware+devices%22
For example:
8. The method of claim 1, where the database is included in the location aware device and is configured to be searchable by a user of the location aware device.
9. The method of claim 8, where the database is configured to be queried for at least a portion of the location history data.
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Ahem, with respect to #8, in the "tech world", we call that functionality "SELECT".
With respect to #9, we call that functionality "WHERE".
Like profanityJesus fucking Christ
... How pathetic can you possibly get? This is not innovation. This is not "non-obvious". This is blatant crap.
Here's the patent (zipped PDF):
12_553_534_Location_Histories_for_Locati.zip (114.94 kB - downloaded 165 times.)
There's nothing novel in the patent application. It's all been done before in one form or another. C3 and C4i systems do a lot of that already, and they've been around for a long time. (Combat systems.)
But that's just the patent aspect of it. Like I said, another pathetic attempt to rape people through the patent system.
Then there are sites like "PatentlyApple.com":
Apple Patent Reveals Extensive Stalking Plans
Crap like that drives me batty.
NSFWIt makes me want to bash in their heads and skull-fuck them to inject some sense into them.
And we haven't even gotten to to the ethical issues behind lying, cheating, and stealing...
(Reminds me of "Intolerance" by Tool.)
Intolerance
Tool Intolerance
I don't want to be hostile
And I don't want to be dismal
But I don't want to rot in
An apathetic existance
See, I want to believe you
And I wanted to trust you
And I want to have faith to
Put away the dagger
But you lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
And yet I tolerate you
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
And yet I tolerate you
Veil of virtue hung to hide your method
While I smileing and laughing and dance
And sing and praise your glory
Shroud of virtue hung to mask your stigma
As I smile and laugh and dance
And sing your glory
While you
Lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
How can I tolerate you?
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
How can I tolerate?
Our guilt, our blame
I've been far too sympathetic
Our blood, our fault
I've been far too sympathetic
I am not innocent
You are not innocent
No one is innocent
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
(crescendo)
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
You lie, cheat and steal
I will no longer tolerate you
Even if I must go down beside you
I must go down beside you
No one is innocent
There are legitimate uses for location tracking. Location tracking is a good thing. It's the lying and deception that's the problem.
I've pointed out this exact issue before and how Samsung deals with it in their bada mobile operating system. They're up front about it. They put the user in complete control. The bada SDK has all of this stuff in it and you can do it all -- but ONLY after you've been vetted by Samsung, come up with a user-friendly privacy agreement, and had you application tested. Samsung is doing this exact same thing the right way. That's fine. Apple is NOT doing this the right way. They're being sneaky, deceptive profanitycunts
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Sigh... You had to go and set me off, didn't you~! :D :P
Stoic Joker:
Under the circumstances I'd of been happy with just the first paragraph ... But I guess it is hard to just tap the ball... :)
Renegade:
Under the circumstances I'd of been happy with just the first paragraph ... But I guess it is hard to just tap the ball... :)
-Stoic Joker (May 03, 2011, 09:34 PM)
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Hahahah~! :)
They could have been honest about it, but they weren't. Like what is wrong with those people?
Location based services are a great idea.
As a simple example, just imagine what LBS could do when tied into car sensors -- you know where you went, how fast, and what your fuel levels were at each point. WOW~! Now you've got a MASSIVE data set that can tell you which routes cost more to drive and which routes are going to save you fuel, which in turn reduces emissions and results in a more environmentally friendly car.
LBS is a great thing. Tracking can be very good.
But nobody wants the Electric Eyew...
"Electric Eye" is an allusion to the book Nineteen Eighty-Fourw by George Orwell, in the use of the name of the pseudo-omnniscient satellite that watches over the community at all times. In this dystopia, the form of government, Ingsoc (Newspeak for English Socialism), is utterly totalitarian, and if citizens are caught rebelling in any manner, they "disappear". The song has been called "prescient" for its depiction of a modern surveillance state.
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Electric Eye
Up here in space
I'm looking down on you.
My lasers trace
Everything you do.
You think you've private lives
Think nothing of the kind.
There is no true escape
I'm watching all the time.
I'm made of metal
My circuits gleam.
I am perpetual
I keep the country clean.
I'm elected electric spy
I protected electric eye.
Always in focus
You can't feel my stare.
I zoom into you
You don't know I'm there.
I take a pride in probing all your secret moves
My tearless retina takes pictures that can prove.
Electric eye, in the sky
Feel my stare, always there
's nothing you can do about it.
Develop and expose
I feed upon your every thought
And so my power grows.
Protected. Detective. Electric eye.
Yes. I just compared Apple to 1984. If the shoe fits...
Deozaan:
Too funny! The above gawker link locked up my iPhone twice when I tried to read it! My client just tried it on her's. Same result. -40hz (May 03, 2011, 02:04 PM)
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I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing because there's a PDF file embedded in the site.
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