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Author Topic: FARR window shrinks over time  (Read 5288 times)

tranglos

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FARR window shrinks over time
« on: May 01, 2011, 12:17:28 PM »
A purely cosmetic issue, but it's there. Here's an initial screenshot I took on April 18th,  two weeks ago:

farr-initial-size.pngFARR window shrinks over time

I had noticed that FARR window had the tendency to shrink, and I was wondering how fast or how slow it was happening. For two weeks I never moved or resized FARR manually. It was only ever opened by pressing the activation hotkey, started and stopped with the system. Today the window looks like this:

farr-final-size.pngFARR window shrinks over time

And here is FARR's display configuration:

farr-displayoptions.pngFARR window shrinks over time

If you exit and restart FARR, the difference is imperceptible, but it adds up over time, so that every two weeks or so it must be manually resized again. Note that I keep "auto shrink"disabled, because it reduces the flicker, and I like to see as may items as I can.

(Win 7, 32-bit. No screen resolution changes, of course.)

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2011, 02:01:52 PM »
If you let it shrink all the way to 0 it will open a black hole on your desktop and a thousand real life LOLCats will pour out and be your friends for life.

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2011, 02:07:09 PM »
If you let it shrink all the way to 0 it will open a black hole on your desktop and a thousand real life LOLCats will pour out and be your friends for life.

And I guestimate that will happen somewhere around the summer holidays :P

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 02:20:06 PM »
If you let it shrink all the way to 0 it will open a black hole on your desktop and a thousand real life LOLCats will pour out and be your friends for life.

One should keep everything but the kitten shrink.

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2011, 04:28:48 AM »
Say what you like, but I've noticed a similar problem too and it is getting a bit annoying. FARR just sets it's width to some smaller size.
It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2011, 04:31:08 AM »
Ok i will work on it.

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2011, 04:53:28 AM »
thanks mouser
It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2011, 07:14:47 AM »
Until mouser fixes the problem you guys could use my FARR MultiMonitorAndCenter plugin to keep FARR's window at a certain percentage of the screen's width.

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2011, 09:07:20 AM »
As it turns out, I was already using your plugin (great work BTW) but I didn't turn on the option to keep FARR's width to percentage of screen's width.
It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2011, 09:17:24 AM »

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2011, 04:04:13 PM »
i'm having trouble reproducing so let me ask some questions

  • if you keep hiding and showing farr window, does it shrink over time as you do this?
  • does it shrink 1 pixel each time you launch and exit farr? or does something else seem to trigger the shrinking?
  • what skin are you using?

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2011, 07:12:47 PM »
Thanks for looking into it, mouser!

if you keep hiding and showing farr window, does it shrink over time as you do this?

It does not. I actually tried this before: kept hitting Pause and ESC for a good while until I got tired :-) I did not observe a change in the size of the window.

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does it shrink 1 pixel each time you launch and exit farr? or does something else seem to trigger the shrinking?

It only seems to happen when FARR exits and is restarted. I've just tried it a number of times. There seems to be a regularity, and it's more than 1 pixel. Each time I restarted FARR I took a screenshot and noted the window dimensions reported by Snagit:

224 x 621
216 x 618
208 x 615
206 x 612
206 x 609
206 x 606

Looks like it was shrinking by 8 pixels horizontally and 3 pixels vertically each time, well on its way to the black hole and the lolcat-infested singularity. Then it seems to have hit a limit. Past the red line, farr's height continues to shrink by 3 pixels, but the width won't go below 206 pixels. It now looks like this:

farr-shrunk2.pngFARR window shrinks over time

So I resized it back to a larger window, and tried again:

585 x 732
577 x 729
569 x 726

Seems conclusive: every time farr is restarted, it loses 8 pixels in width and 3 pixels in height. If you find out what's causing it, do you think you could package it into a pill that would shrink my gut by 8 pixels when I am restarted every morning? I could wear my wedding suit pants again!

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what skin are you using?

Mollis-BLUE.

And bingo! With skins disabled, the shrinking does not occur. (I should have tried that in the first place, would have saved you time.) It would appear that applying the skin causes an adjustment in width and height. It's going to be hard to test all skins, but trying corona-CORONA12, the results are slightly different:

577 x 731
569 x 731
561 x 731

Still 8 pixels loss in width, but height stays the same.

I can resize my farr window, but do think about the pill, won't you?
« Last Edit: May 07, 2011, 07:15:03 PM by tranglos »

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2011, 08:29:32 PM »
I could wear my wedding suit pants again!


And your wife her morning dress?

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2011, 09:57:25 PM »
What operating system are you using again?

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2011, 10:33:29 PM »
try this (just the exe, overwrite existing):
http://www.donationc.../FindAndRunRobot.zip

see if it improves it at all -- it's a shot in the dark so i wouldn't count on it.

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2011, 06:50:38 AM »
try this (just the exe, overwrite existing):
http://www.donationc.../FindAndRunRobot.zip

see if it improves it at all -- it's a shot in the dark so i wouldn't count on it.

Mouser, it's clear now that you're way better than some at shooting in the dark! The new build no longer shrinks with the skin I am using.  Thank you!

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2011, 07:19:31 AM »
I could wear my wedding suit pants again!


And your wife her morning dress?

Mmm, it's just me, actually :)

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Re: FARR window shrinks over time
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2011, 08:11:37 AM »