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wraith808:
Looks just like a kind of merger of AutoIt3 and AutoHotKey to me,
-Ath (April 27, 2011, 01:43 AM)
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Well, you obviously don't have a clue so who needs your $21.95.
AutoHotKey is for script kiddies.
AutoIt3 is a pretty good and powerful script language, just goes to show the level of "programmers" who exist here.
Save your comments for 4chan.
-Cpilot (April 28, 2011, 10:47 PM)
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Are you associated with the product?  He was just giving his opinion, so it seems pretty strange to flame someone for their personal opinion unless you're invested in the product...

Renegade:
$22 for an entry seems cheap to me. Heck, that's barely a dinner at a restaurant.

If it helps someone get into programming, the $22 is well spent.

I can't see the harm in it.

mrainey:
MiniBASIC was written by the man who developed my favorite programming tool, Emergence BASIC.  What that means is that the program will be very reliable, the developer not so much.

40hz:
I think it would be far more beneficial to discuss and debate the technical merits rather than the price of something like this. f0dder sort of alluded to that when he asked what was the unique thing (or things) about Minibasic that justified it's existence.

Pricing should not be an issue if the product fills a niche. It's only when price is divorced from function that it becomes it's own separate issue. Because f there's no real functional differences, all you can discuss is the price.

And close functional similarity shouldn't be seen as an issue either. Most software falls into general categories, with dozens, or hundreds, of "me too" products competing for space on our hard drives. That's why something as basic as a programmer's text editor is available in so many price and feature ranges. Each has its own special "something" that some group of users can't live without. And those things are often what sparks such debate and emotion when text editors get compared. Most forum veterans know that few discussions get uglier sooner than those about which editor is "the best."

Which is really odd when you think about it. Because except for those little "somethings" each editor brings to the party, they're all basically the same tool.

IMO if Minibasic fills a need or function, it's worth whatever the author can get for it. And if it doesn't, it's not worth having at all. Even if it were being offered for free.

So maybe if instead of arguing price (or bandying about things like script kiddies or 'it's no different than') somebody could throw up an elegant example of something Minibasic does extremely well? Ideally something another product like AutoIt or Autohotkey couldn't do as easily - or maybe at all?

I'm pretty good at making an informed decision when I have some examples to look at.

I'm not too good at deciding when people are slamming each other. When that happens, I tend to either stick with what I already have - or start looking elsewhere.

Just my 2¢ :)

Ath:
I wasn't hitting on anyone, and put my (personal) verdict in a spoiler to be a little less public (to avoid any possible offense) about that. But I guess it wasn't subtle enough.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my message. :huh:
Had a quick look at the MB site, but did not see much to get a better view of the product. They promise a small exe size, no runtime dependencies, but I already have that. With AutoIt3 or AutoHotKey. And 'modular with new commands'? What that? No explanation found, and the More Information link? Directly to the forum index, but no info.
And they still want money for it? I'll keep my (personal) verdict the same.

Or grab a copy of the (free) Visual Studio Express Edition. That has a quite modern flavor of basic, and C#. It's not small, and requires a runtime installed. But it's still free, and has quite awesome support.

I'll pass on this one, thanks.

No offense.

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