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« Reply #175 on: March 09, 2011, 04:54:00 AM »

Sweet. smiley Thanks for the link, app103! I used to keep a close eye on articles for a while, but since Gothi[c] went a-magicking with awstats I've not really been able to keep an eye on fresh referers.

With regards to the proxy thing - I'll bring out a test build later today that hopefully solves your problem, sujay85. I lack the environment to properly test all of this (authenticated) proxy stuff, so I hope we'll have a few willing testers for whom 1.0.3 does not work properly.
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« Reply #176 on: March 09, 2011, 08:11:59 AM »

very nice  thumbs up
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« Reply #177 on: March 09, 2011, 11:15:50 AM »

Does Internet Explorer (most other browsers have other mechanisms for auth.proxies!) present you a proxy-login-page when you start browsing, or is it automagically providing the proper credentials to the proxy?
Yes browsers show proxy login pop-up after opening.
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« Reply #178 on: March 09, 2011, 11:19:00 AM »

With regards to the proxy thing - I'll bring out a test build later today that hopefully solves your problem, sujay85. I lack the environment to properly test all of this (authenticated) proxy stuff, so I hope we'll have a few willing testers for whom 1.0.3 does not work properly.
No problem. i will let you know whether that will work or not. FYI till now no other such tools like virustotal uploader/novirusthanks uploader does this authentication. If you can solve this it will be the first of its kind...Wink
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« Reply #179 on: March 09, 2011, 01:32:47 PM »

You mention something of a popup and such. Is it some builtin Internet Explorer thing, or does it show for all browsers? Could you share a screenshot?

I think the solution I have in mind code-wise does not support popping up any dialogs, so it might not fix your issue and I've had to look at something else.
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« Reply #180 on: March 11, 2011, 10:26:32 AM »

You mention something of a popup and such. Is it some builtin Internet Explorer thing, or does it show for all browsers? Could you share a screenshot?

I think the solution I have in mind code-wise does not support popping up any dialogs, so it might not fix your issue and I've had to look at something else.
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All browsers show that dialogue/pop-up box. Give me some time, I will post the screenshots on Monday..smiley
I know nothing about coding, but you may not use that pop-up box rather set that setting permanently like in the following screenie (this one is in Bullguard AV)

http://i.imgur.com/ZlE7S.jpg
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« Reply #181 on: March 11, 2011, 10:55:40 AM »

I am hesitant to use a separate screen as it would very likely mean I'd have to get down into proxy nitty gritty. If at all possible, I want to use existing (builtin) Windows settings as that is how users would probably expect it to work.

Apologies for not getting around to coding that test build I promised. I just haven't gotten around to it, but it is most definitely on my list of things to do. smiley
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« Reply #182 on: March 11, 2011, 09:35:35 PM »

I am hesitant to use a separate screen as it would very likely mean I'd have to get down into proxy nitty gritty. If at all possible, I want to use existing (builtin) Windows settings as that is how users would probably expect it to work.

Apologies for not getting around to coding that test build I promised. I just haven't gotten around to it, but it is most definitely on my list of things to do. smiley

No Problem take your time..smiley
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« Reply #183 on: March 12, 2011, 04:39:01 AM »

worstje:
The standard procedure with authenticating proxies and other authenticating services, is to set up the credentials in your connection object, and then make the connection. The connection stuff then either automatically performs the authentication or fires an event (.NET kinda standard behavior) that you implement and return the proper credential information.

It's quite useless (iow nearly impossible) to try and catch the login page fired at browsers, as that's often a javascript page, you will have great difficulty executing in your application (JottiQ in this case)
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« Reply #184 on: March 12, 2011, 06:16:47 AM »

Right. I'm with you so far, and I actually looked into that stuff already. But if there's standard facilities to authenticating proxies, there should probably be some sort of Windows-wide data repository for that stuff I can (ab)use? If a system has a proxy configured it would be silly to make a user configure it separately for JottiQ.

Too many settings are a bad thing by my book, so if I can avoid any sort of data entry that is JottiQ specific that would make me happy.
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« Reply #185 on: March 12, 2011, 07:29:05 AM »

If the authentication for browsers is a webpage, then I assume it could be using cookies to store any previous used credentials, but that should be provided by the proxy, and is probably not re-usable by other applications.

Most other apps I use (Avast, Eclipse, and other stuff) have in their network page a proxy setting that facilitate optionally setting the authentication parameters, next to the proxy address, so I'm afraid that there's not much hope for a common solution. You could re-use the parameters of any of the other apps to provide these to the proxy, but what common app to choose?
It wonders me (too) that Windows Internet settings page doesn't have an option to define this.
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« Reply #186 on: March 17, 2011, 06:46:38 AM »

As promised I have attached the screenies. thumbs up


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« Reply #187 on: March 17, 2011, 07:03:51 AM »

That are the default 'Login credentials' pages of these browsers, so I'm afraid that JottiQ is going to need it's specific proxy authentication settings page Sad
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« Reply #188 on: March 17, 2011, 01:32:25 PM »

Okay thank you. Seems I am indeed stuck doing things that way. smiley Ath, when I get around to it, I hope there's no issue if I ask you to test? I seem to recall you had a rather diverse (software) environment to test with, and you seem to know the subject quite well to boot.
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« Reply #189 on: March 17, 2011, 03:02:55 PM »

Well, I've been behind a proxy (here, at home) for over 14 years now, and that was just because my ISDN connection could be turned of and off by the proxy software, and I sticked with it because all my e-mail configurations would have to be changed again and again. And for the extra security ofcourse, as there's also a firewall on that machine.

Not sure if I can configure it to do the authentication without messing things up big time, here, but I'll try, just for fun, or set up something in VMWare Cool Will probably end up sometime next week, though (assuming you're ready before the weekend), got a busy weekend ahead.
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« Reply #190 on: March 17, 2011, 04:07:15 PM »

Heh, take your time. I am not in a rush with this one myself. smiley
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« Reply #191 on: July 01, 2011, 06:34:50 PM »

Version 1.1.0 is out, six months after the initial release. Woo hoo, yay, hurray and all that cheerful babble.


If there is anything else you want to know, check the first post in this topic or see the website. Or simply ask in this topic; I'll be glad to answer any questions there may be.

The JottiQ website still needs a day or two to get polished with regards to this release; I haven't managed to update it as much as I planned to for this release and at this moment, information regarding the new release and its features is decidedly lacking on there.

v1.1.0 (2011-07-01)

    Six months after the official release, it is time for a well-deserved
    update. Sadly, there isn't much one can improve in a tool with a simple
    purpose. However, I hope this new version will entertain.
    
      Added: Forks support. Also known as 'Alternative Data Streams', these
          are a well-hidden feature of the NTFS filesystem which provide for
          equally well-hidden pseudo-files attached to existing files. Most
          programs are unable to read them, no less act on them - which makes
          this a feature that truly improves Jotti's malware scan.
      Added: Proxy server support.
      Added: Connectivity test for troubleshooting issues. Some beta-testers
          for this version had problems with proxy server support, but it will
          hopefully prove useful for all parties.
      Added: A builtin 'whitelist' for forks. The feature is sometimes used
          for legitimate reasons, and one of those affects nearly every file
          downloaded. The whitelist exists for speeding up processing only;
          security-minded (distrusting?) individuals are free to enable the
          option that forces these whitelisted forks to appear in the queue.
      Added: A 'whitelist fork by name' option. If the precise comparisons on
          a possibly whitelisted fork prove troublesome, this enables one to
          consider the fork safe by proxy of its name. This feature as a work-
          around for 'Zone.Identifier' forks encoded in different formats than
          I have been able to test with - so if one finds a 'Zone.Identifier'
          fork that is not whitelisted, I request that this forks is saved to a
          file and sent to me at: jottiq-whitelist (at) whitehat.dcmembers.com
          so I may inspect it and if is found safe, add it to the whitelist in
          the next version. TL;DR? Don't enable unless you know you need it.
      Added: The queue context menu now offers an Actions sub-menu. These
          contain actions that affect the selected objects (files and/or forks)
          in the queue physically. There are currently two items in this menu:
           - Delete Object(s): This either deletes the selected file(s)
               permanently, or it removes the selected fork(s) from the file.
               Do note that deleting a file also deletes its forks, but that
               deleting a fork on a file leaves the latter intact. I remain of
               the opinion that JottiQ is an investigative tool rather than a
               cleaner, but... the peoples wishes are clear and forks are hard
               to delete, so deleting files is a logical consequence.
           - Save Fork As: This saves the contents of a fork to a file. This
               does not work for ordinary files as it would be a mere 'Copy'
               operation that may or may not bring expectations along with it;
               instead it is to be used as an inspection utility for a resource
               otherwise difficult to examine.
      Added: An 'Add file(s)' feature is now available in the toolbar. It
          completely slipped my attention in the 1.0.x versions, for which
          my apologies. Rather late than never. smiley
      Removed: The 'Add Running Processes' functionality is no longer present.
          It was determined to be an inappropriate feature that only delivered
          half work, and to boot the reason why Jotti's malware scan suffers
          such ungodly waiting times during the waking hours of the western
          world ever since JottiQ's release.
      Fixed: No more crash when down-sizing the amount of worker-threads.
      Fixed: Legibility of items on right pane could suffer in certain colour
          configurations; now it uses proper system colours where applicable.
      Fixed: Zero-byte items were not being removed by the manual nor automatic
          'Remove safe items' features.
      Fixed: Deleting items from the queue while it was being processed no
          longer makes the worker-thread go M.I.A. until it finishes its work
          off the screen; it now terminates and moves on to the next item in
          the list as soon as possible.
      Changed: Uploading should be a little bit more efficient now.
      Changed: Fancy progress bars that show upload progress are now in place
          as opposed a boring textual description.
      Changed: Redesigned the Settings window with clearly named sections and
          recognizable icons in order to make JottiQ configuration more
          accessible.
      Changed: The instruction text in the main screen no longer suggests
          one to 'start processing' when processing is already enabled.
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« Reply #192 on: July 01, 2011, 09:55:30 PM »

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« Reply #193 on: July 12, 2011, 04:27:15 PM »

Version 1.1.1 is now out. No bugs were fixed; but a setting was added to play nice with domains and group policies that mess up the SSL certificate validation of Jotti's malware scan. While Internet Explorer would give you a warning and the option to ignore and continue on your own risk, the .NET framework is quite a bit tougher and more unforgiving in that regard. Thanks go to sujay85 to put up with the small dozen private messages I exchanged with him over the past two weeks, and the test builds that were created as a result. smiley


If there is anything else you want to know, check the first post in this topic or see the website. Or simply ask in this topic; I'll be glad to answer any questions there may be.

v1.1.1 (2011-07-12)

    Any new version released suffers from a few hiccups, and v1.1.0 was no
    different. Thankfully, all this release does is pat the proverbial belly.
    
      Added: A setting that, if enabled, lessens the scrutiny given to the
          remote server of Jotti's malware scan to determine its authenticity.
          'Ignore certain SSL certificate errors' is only useful on a few
          specific configurations, and should not be enabled unless you get an
          error like the following in the Connectivity Test:
              'The underlying connection was closed: Could not establish trust
                relationship for the SSL/TLS secure channel.'
      Changed: dcuhelper.exe was updated to v1.10.01 released on July 12, 2011.
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« Reply #194 on: July 14, 2011, 12:06:56 PM »

Ohh!!! thanks for the update. I failed to notice days in the past two days. tongue Great job worstje... Thmbsup Thmbsup
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« Reply #195 on: August 07, 2011, 08:08:17 AM »

Hi..
Not sure whether i should post here ,but im running windows 7 64 bit ,and just installed jottiq (latest) ,but getting an error that i cant fathom.When i try to drag load an item into jottiiq to scan i get an error.Can anyone help?
Thanks
ellison

EDIT......SORRY GUYS .MY ERROR.IT WAS MY FIREWALL BLOCKING IT.ALL OK NOW Thmbsup


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« Reply #196 on: June 01, 2012, 04:27:46 AM »

Any news on a possible release ? Just asking.. embarassed I love to see updates coming  Kiss
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