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Whoa, this gal hates MS Office 2010 -- 5 Reasons Why You Don't Need It

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tomos:
^ well it's pretty obvious a bunch of people here disagree with you Zaine!

I think I've gotten a better understanding of the ribbon with the, eh, haggling that's been going on here about it. It sounds interesting.
I dont see any reason though (for me) to pay double the price of Softmaker Office (for the Home & Business MS version). If you've got a lot invested in it though it's not outrageously priced for a home business user.

iphigenie:
i bought outlook 2010 - think they really improved that one. well, i bought outll look 2007 cheap when the "free up to 2010" was offered, but that was for that very reason.

my only issue with the ribbon was the "hmm where did they move *this* to now?" phase, which is slowly over. Still find menus faster from the keyboard, but never investigated keyboard ribbon control...

cant imagine getting the other products though - the ones i really like in Office are Onenote and Outlook - everything else I can use alternatives

Carol Haynes:
Face it, some folks -- including me -- honestly do NOT like the ribbon. No amount of perfume is going to make that pig smell any better. The ribbon is:


* Cheesy (really, this is just bad design and Microsoft poured too much cash in it to admit it)
* A waste of space (I got better uses than a dead ribbon eating up screen space)
* Looks like a 1st grader designed it (see cheesy above)
* Its icons are unnecessarily HUGE (I'm not a retarded blind person)
* Keyboard shortcuts and self-designed start pages are more efficient and economical (simple is better)-zridling (July 26, 2010, 11:13 PM)
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1) Cheesy is a matter of taste - personally I find it MUCH clearer than an amorphous block of cryptic icons (and toolbars that are often hidden - if you show them all then you use up about 40% of your screen) and menus that constantly change and move so you can never find anything (yes I know you can turn of the popular menu items feature but lots of users don't and I find it a real pain on client computers to find what I am looking for). Having been using the ribbon for a long time now the one thing you can say is that it was designed - by comparison earlier versions of Office weren't even designed they were thrown together.
2) If you don't like wasting space minimize it - it takes one line on the screen. On my screen (a 22" 16:9 monitor) I can work on two full A4 pages side by side without having to scroll at all - and my eyesight isn't great.
3) You have some very clevery first graders in the US then!
4) Most icons are pretty much the same size as they have always been. Some are larger but actually that is a really good idea (and comes from a lot of UI research - not just MS research) as they are much easier to hit quickly with a mouse and therefore less tiring. Also if you are going to have a fixed height ribbon (even if you minimise it) you may as well use the space the user's advantage.
5) You can customise the ribbon bar completely in Office 2010, and assign any keyboard shortcuts you like to any functions).

No matter. I no longer pay for OS, nor would I pay for an office suite. Ninety-nine percent of my work is done using a text editor.

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If a text editor meets your needs that is great - for most people using MS Office a text editor wouldn't do what is required.

Josh:
1) Cheesy is an opinion. Your thinking it is cheesy does not make it so for everyone.
2) Wasting space is an easy fix. Minimize it
3) I second what Carol said above
4) All of the icons are the exact same size. Some formatting options have been given a larger section on the ribbon because they demonstrate how hitting the button will apply formatting to the document. The insert ribbon has larger icons due to the fact that it makes it easier for people to identify what they are inserting.
5) Keyboard shortcuts are actually far more prevalent in office 2007/2010. Simply hitting ALT brings up a letter under each ribbon tab which, when pressed, activates that tab and display keys that can be pressed to activate that tabs various functions. As I said earlier, many of my 400 users have become far more productive once I showed them they can activate various functions without moving their hands from the keyboard to use the mouse. So yes, office 2010 definitely FITS your requirement for this comment.

If all you use is a text editor, then it is obvious you have no need for an office suite. This is like someone commenting on a Hummer H3 when they have A. no need for one, B. Never used one. Given that you are a "born-again" Linux user and are very adamant about your anti-Microsoft beliefs, I would like to question just how much time you have spent in either office 2007 or 2010 to formulate your opinion and test out the new options.

mrainey:
Ninety-nine percent of my work is done using a text editor.
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Same here.  That's why I don't feel qualified to evaluate the ribbon.   ;)

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