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Paul Keith:
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* no flash/gif/css that make it more about the theme
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* Creating Passionate Users
* Dosh Dosh
* IO9
* Paul Graham
I was reminded today that good writing isn’t everything. It was four in the afternoon and I was stuck at a turning point in one of my manuscripts, and it hit me that everything I’d done to improve my writing did not matter then and there. I could have just as easily messed up the entire project by tackling the scene the wrong way, even if I did write it beautifully. This wasn’t a matter of description or style or clarity of thought – it was something more. It was story.

Story is that extra something we writers don’t really understand. Take a stroll through any bookstore today and you’ll find writing titles jumping out at you: The Elements of Style, for instance. Or On Writing, that highly popular craft manual by Mr King. But pause for awhile and note that Mr King didn’t write a book called On Storytelling. Nobody has, in fact – I’m still looking for solid works on storytelling alone.

What I’ve realized is that writing is actually the easy part of the craft. The other part – the harder one – is the ability to create a mind-blowing good tale. And that isn’t something that can be captured in a book – I’ve yet to see manuals entitled How To Write Like Steinbeck, or Where To Find Story Ideas. Things like that fall from the sky, or they don’t fall at all.

I read an article last year by a writer turned editor complaining about how hard it was to filter short stories for a collection. She quickly identified two kinds of submissions – the first was by a good storyteller with bad writing (which she could work on), and the other was by the writer who could write beautifully but had nothing to say. The first needed a lot of polishing; the second, however, was impossible to work with. These 2nd category stories were beautiful on the outside, but in the end the aforementioned editor found them to be empty. Rotten apples. Hollow cores.

So I took a break from my manuscript today. I didn’t know how to go on from that turning point – the possibilities were just endless. But that’s not the point here. The point here is that I’m thankful for the storytelling department. For my storytelling department. There are people out there who can’t pull a good yarn even if it was staring them in the face, good writing or not. And I know my writing’s not perfect, but I’m working on it.

I’m just thankful I’ve got something to say.

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It's still no good so I need some website recommendation help. My blog is still postponed because my posting is still no good. The above is talking about blog fiction but since I'm unable to shorten the length of my posts I'm thinking of cheating it via stories. I already plan to add more images but I keep losing my writing voice. Same thing with my other ideas, it doesn't fit this term (sure it's for presentation slideshows but I think it's still valid):

Making presentations isn't about telling people what you know....

.... it's about telling them what they need to know in the way they need to know it!
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...worse, the longer I write the more it feels like I'm writing an uneducated essay rather than merely sharing my opinion in a blog post.




Good Writers, Bad Storytellers


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40hz:
Hey! Maybe you're being too hard on yourself? Maybe you could share something you've written for your blog either here in the forum - or via a PM and get some outside perspective?

I had a real problem a few years back not being able to finish anything I was writing. I basically hated everything I was doing. And the more I revised, the worse it seemed to get. Talk about a major erosion of self confidence. I was about one half step short of being completely "blocked" as the saying goes.

Finally, my GF asked to see some of my screeds. Turns out she amost always thought my earliest drafts were very well-written and 'read' just fine. But she also noticed that the more I futzed with something, the more it seemed to get awkward, start hedging, and ultimately lose its focus. Kinda like pie dough. You have to knead it to get a nice flaky crust. But if you knead it too much, it becomes greasy and tough. So the real secret to making a terrific pie is knowing when to stop kneading the dough.

As far as 'style' went, she felt my absolute best articles always seemed to read like they were personal letters to a very smart friend who I was excited about sharing something with. Don't know if you'd call that a 'writing style' per se, but that's pretty much how I write everything today. Most of the people who say they read my stuff seem to like it just fine.

Eventually, I learned the technique that worked best for me was to write fairly quickly and restrict the number of back-to-back edits and rewrites to a few as humanly possible. Basically, once the grammar and spelling were correct I'd call it a day after a quick buff & shine. Then I'd let it sit for a few days (or weeks) and give it a reread just in case I missed something, totally blew the structure, thought of something clever to add - or completely changed my mind about what I had previously written. Don't laugh! That last one has happened to me on more than one occasion. :redface:

Anyway, it seems I can write once again now that I don't try to write a doctoral dissertation or compose a literary masterpiece every time I launch WriteMonkey or MSWord.

Writing quickly, in a personal letter style, with minimal revisions seemed to work the charm for me.

Seeking perfection can easily become a trap for many well meaning people who are only trying to accomplish some good in their lifetime.

Old I Ching saying: When a single larger vessel is not at hand for making sacrifice to the gods - two smaller vessels will do.

 :Thmbsup:

Paul Keith:
Thanks 40hz, I appreciate your reply. Really, I do!

...but I'd like to avoid the same song of length and other adjectives when it goes for my writing style.

Right now I just want examples. If I ever get done with at least one *new* post I'll try to pm the link to the modified style but right now I have my fill of general advises. I don't think I can take anymore vague or inspirational advises.

I just want to listen and adapt to all I've listened to currently, do some soul searching on my own and just get it out of the way before anything else.

40hz:
Nothing vague or inspirational in what I wrote AFAICT.

Keep it personal and write to specific imaginary target reader 
Don't overrefine or edit what you're trying to say.
Get an outside opinion before you diss what you've written.
Let your article age for a while before you say it's done.
Forget about writing the perfect article and shoot for writing a very good one.

If you're looking for something to emulate, that's a different story.

Good article styles can be found everywhere on the web. If you have a site whose tone and style you admire, just dissect what they're doing and copy or adapt as needed.

I've got close to 100 books on writing technique. As far as I can see, there's no magic formula for writing anything. The best you can do is avoid the more obvious mistakes these books will steer you around.

Best book on essay type writing  is Sin Boldly by Dr. Dave.

Here's the TOC:
http://www.sinboldly.com/toc/

if you can get past his occasional nods towards "PC" there's a good deal if specific advice there. I personally thought some earlier editions were better (as in less preachy) but it's all still good stuff.   Grab a coffee and skim it next time you're in a bookstore to see if it might be the ticket.

For general writing, I think the single best book on how to nail an idea down is Save the Cat by the late and sorely missed Blake Snyder. Although it's ostensibly about screenwriting, his approach to nailing down a story can be applied to anything. I had a friend use some if it to develop a political speech and also choreograph a presentation.

Yet another book to preview next time you're in B&N. 

Well...that's it from me since I'm seeing double trying to type this on a phone. 'Scuze any missed typos for the same reason.

Luck.  :Thmbsup:     
 

Paul Keith:
No, no... sorry... I just don't want to talk about this now but thanks for the book recommendations.

By specifics, I meant specific to the contents of the blog article. No advise that doesn't specifically comment on what's actually typewritten already.

Basically the outside opinion minus I have no person I can feel confident in understanding my style so I just want it out, done, finished...kaput and then ask for an outside opinion because I don't think I can continue writing if someone mid-way said "that's good enough" without really judging my adjustments and perspective as a whole but this is my personal burden - I apologize if I somehow someway come off flippant.

It's just that I'm not receptive to any advise right now and I just want to limit this topic to external websites and every writing advise and opinion - please, if I'm done killing the baby, I'd appreciate and would directly pm you and all the others for advise but right now I can't address your post.

No offense intended, I'm just...I'm just...I'm sorry. I'll stop babbling now.

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