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Author Topic: CHS vs. ArsClip  (Read 4199 times)

superboyac

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CHS vs. ArsClip
« on: July 15, 2010, 12:45:20 PM »
I've been using clipboard managers for several years now.  The top two programs are CHS and ArsClip.  I have phases where I switch between the two for a variety of reasons.  The last couple of years, I've been using Arsclip.  Now, I've switched back to CHS.  Why?  ArsClip gets a lot of errors with MS Office applications, and I got tired of it.  CHS is more problem-free as of now for me.

So i wanted to discuss some of the pros and cons for each one.  I know mouser is always open to suggestions, so please consider any of this however you like.

For these clipboard managers, I ONLY use them with the pop-up under the mouse pointer feature.  I don't really do anything else with the note taking features, or other functions.  So keep that in mind.

One little thing I like about Arsclip is that when you place something in the clipboard, the popup list shows the icon of the application the clip came from.  i like that.  it gives a nice visual for the popup.  Doesn't really do anything practical, it's just nice.  Here's a screenshot:
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What I don't like about arsclip is the way the popup is organized.  It's weird and confusing.  And adjusting the options for it are just as weird and confusing.  it works fine for me, but it's just strange.  CHS's organization is much more logical and straightforward.  We all know mouser has a great feel for user interfaces.

What I'm having a hard time figuring out with CHS is the automatic filing method for the clips.  There are a lot of options about how long to wait before placing items in certain places (old, new, recycle, when to delete, etc.).  I don't know about others, but I just want the list to simply show the past 30 clips (or whatever number).  By default there is some auto-filing happening.  i know I asked about this years ago, and mouser gave me some code to do what I wanted (it's here on the forum somewhere).  If I could suggest to simplify some of those auto-filing features?  I can suggest some things later, if it's not clear what I'm asking for.  I can't suggest right now, because I've only skimmed the options so far.  I can come back later when I've given it a more thorough look.

CHS definitely is working better for me with the Office apps.  Arsclip would always give me errors when I clipped things from Excel.

I like the tray icon for CHS better.

Could we add options to make the popup prettier?  Can we specify how we want the index number to look?  Right now, it's just 1,2,3,4 with an underline and hyphen.  it would be fun if I can choose the font, formatting (bold, underline, etc.), size, and color of the index number.
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Another really nice feature would be to beef up the already great quick search function.  Could you do it like evernote, where the matches get highlighted live as you type?  And if there are more than one word to find, they get highlighted in different colors?
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Re: CHS vs. ArsClip
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 11:33:45 AM »
superboyAC, did you mention your ArsClip issues to Joe?  I can't comment about Office because I haven't used it, but I haven't always found configuration as obvious as I'd have liked.  Then again, some functions overlap with other programs I use more often, so I'm not so familiar.

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Re: CHS vs. ArsClip
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 11:43:27 AM »
very good observations; the icons in menu is a cool idea.

as for customizing which clips show in the quick paste popup, open CHS main window, right-click on the Quick Paste group and edit it and modify the SQL for the virtual folder.  by default it's: "NOT (IsInRecyleBin) AND (ModificationDateTime>=DateTimeMinusOneHour)"
if you change that to just "NOT (IsInRecyleBin)" you might see what you want.

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Re: CHS vs. ArsClip
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 11:59:19 AM »
superboyAC, did you mention your ArsClip issues to Joe?  I can't comment about Office because I haven't used it, but I haven't always found configuration as obvious as I'd have liked.  Then again, some functions overlap with other programs I use more often, so I'm not so familiar.
I have not.  I haven't had time to figure out exactly when it happens.  This is really the only forum I participate in regularly these days.

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Re: CHS vs. ArsClip
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2010, 12:03:48 PM »
very good observations; the icons in menu is a cool idea.

as for customizing which clips show in the quick paste popup, open CHS main window, right-click on the Quick Paste group and edit it and modify the SQL for the virtual folder.  by default it's: "NOT (IsInRecyleBin) AND (ModificationDateTime>=DateTimeMinusOneHour)"
if you change that to just "NOT (IsInRecyleBin)" you might see what you want.
Thanks mouser, that did the trick.  For options like those, I might recommend doing it with checkboxes and radio buttons in the options dialog.  I'm as willing a fiddler as there can be, and I usually get turned away whenever I see coding necessary.  Not to make more work for you!!  I know you've been planning on updating your software after finishing up your current projects.