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Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
Eóin:
Welcome to capitalism!
Gwen7:
Welcome to capitalism!
-Eóin (May 01, 2010, 01:34 PM)
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that is a common misconception.
antisocial behavior has no more to do with capitalism than secret police have to do with socialism. just because things keep company doesn't mean one is caused by the other.
it's not the game that's at fault. it's the way some people decide to play it that determines how clean or dirty things become.
that and how much we tolerate misbehavior.
/// and speaking of capitalism i'm working today. what better way to take a break than to get caught up reading the donation coder forums! ///
Eóin:
Actually the game of capitalism is very much at fault. It's a system which celebrates and rewards greed above all else.
Socialism, which as you correctly say has nothing to do with secret police, is a different and nicer game altogether.
Gwen7:
Actually the game of capitalism is very much at fault. It's a system which celebrates and rewards greed above all else.
Socialism, which as you correctly say has nothing to do with secret police, is a different and nicer game altogether.
-Eóin (May 01, 2010, 03:12 PM)
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gracious! you paint broad strokes with a very big brush on that topic. :)
i guess we will have to agree to not agree on that.
i've read my Hegel, Marx, Hobbs, Locke, and Hume. and i've studied a lot of history and political science.
and it's no where near as simple or all in black and white as that.
JavaJones:
While I've been advocating the purely legal interpretation in this thread, because I feel that is what matters in a practical sense, I have to say I agree with Carol and 40hz, etc. that overall the business-driven world we live in, and the things that corporations get away with in the name of profit, are absolutely shocking and depressing. And while there are idealized concepts of capitalism that theoretically avoid these pitfalls, I think it's hard to argue that any system that has at its center the value of something other than people - humanity itself and its members - will ultimately be to the benefit of humanity. Capitalism's short-term benefit for a relative few is merely a byproduct, not a primary effect, and certainly not a goal. The goal for all is profit, the ultimate realization of selfishness, and when all other goals are subservient to it, even human considerations like ethics, emotions, etc., the result is bound to not be something that most humans like. It is the nature of a system that does not value true human values.
- Oshyan
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