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KynloStephen66515:
This isn't really Tech News worthy, so I figured I would post it as more of a rant, than anything that needs replies to...

Home Secretary Alan Johnson will hold talks with Facebook later this week about the social networking site's refusal to install a "panic button" to allow children to report suspected paedophiles.

Mr Johnson and junior Home Office minister Alan Campbell will meet representatives from the site in an attempt to persuade them to install the button, which links to the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (Ceop) centre.

Mr Campbell told MPs he could see no reason why Facebook and other social networking sites would not adopt the system.

Calls for Facebook to install the button on its website have intensified following the conviction of Peter Chapman for the kidnap, rape and murder of 17-year-old Ashleigh Hall.

Convicted sex offender Chapman used a false identity to befriend and entrap the teenager through Facebook, which has some 23 million UK users.

Mr Campbell, responding to a debate in Parliament's Westminster Hall, said he was "disappointed" that not all social networking sites had added Ceop's "report abuse" panic button.

He said: "I expect those responsible for provision of services online to take responsibility for providing safety mechanisms and information to their users and, in the case of services where there can be communication between people who are not previously know to each other and where identities can be invented, to provide the click Ceop button to allow users who feel threatened or vulnerable to make a report."

Mr Campbell continued: "We have argued... that the Ceop button should be used by all of those sites and many sites have either agreed to take them or agreed to take them at some point in the future, such as Bebo.

"We see absolutely no reason why sites should not do so.

"Later this week the Home Secretary and I will be meeting with Facebook to impress upon them the need to allow users who feel threatened to have access to the Ceop button."

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Don't let your freakin kids use social networking websites!

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From the Facebook Help Centre:

What is the minimum age required to sign up for Facebook? How old do you have to be?
In order to be eligible to sign up for Facebook, users must be thirteen (13) years of age or older.

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Users who are 18 years or younger should have seriously restricted options on Facebook.  Now I know people lie, and kids lie all the damn time, but the ones who put their true age in, should have all friends requests, private messages, comments etc...moderated by their parents (Parents would have to sign their kids up and link their FB account to their children's)

Seems logical to me!


All in all, I do NOT agree with anybody under 18 using social networking websites...They can be very dangerous places.

Examples of websites that should be removed/changed:

Myspace
Faceparty
BEBO (Main culprit)

Bebo actually WANTS every child in the world to sign up...don't ask me why, or what their reasons are...but it is a nasty website and should be more heavily moderated.

Faceparty...well...go look at it...you will understand why I hate it!

Myspace is just crap...end of conversation on that...



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RedPillow:
Im 16 and I think I`ll know if a freaking pedophile tries to rape me virtually or in real life.
Also, kids even younger than me (like 10-15 year old) are so into porn these days, that no one really starts puking to their keyboard if a random korean-dude send in some goatse - That`s what close button is for.

So .. No 18 please :]

KynloStephen66515:
Im 16
-RedPillow (March 16, 2010, 03:46 PM)
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Not to seem offensive or anything, but your generation (omg that makes me feel old) WILL claim that you are de-sensitized and not 'at risk'.  Take a 14 year old girl...give her a webcam...guaranteed compromising photos posted on facebook, bebo, myspace, msn, and anywhere else she felt the need to share them.

Take a 14 year old boy, give him a computer with unrestricted access, hes going to hunt for porn, and chat rooms...

These things happen.

Dormouse:
Im 16 and I think I`ll know if a freaking pedophile tries to rape me virtually or in real life.
-RedPillow (March 16, 2010, 03:46 PM)
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I think the girl in the example knew too.
But by then she was on her own with him and it was too late.

Renegade:
The problem isn't with Facebook, it's with the pedophiles using it. Laws need to address/restrict the source problems, and not to restrict/address victims of problems. Laws are supposed to protect people, and not to punish good citizens.

Facebook here is a victim as they have been misused by a seriously deranged fellow. Punishing Facebook doesn't solve the problem.

Roads can be dangerous places, and if you're careless, you're liable to injure yourself or others, but you don't find them all lined with rubber padding and whatnot. Similarly, the Internet presents dangers as well. There are lots of ways to put on an "Internet seat belt" or install "Internet airbags", but most people just simply won't do it (e.g. Internet nanny programs, firewalls, etc.). People need to actually do something to protect their children rather than just sit back and let the state try to do it (which can ONLY end in disaster).

We see absolutely no reason why sites should not do so.
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WTF??? Reality check! I can think of a million reasons not to! Do you seriously want to have kids flagging people as pedophiles? You know what that would do? It would turn into a witch-hunt complete with stakes, bonfires, and burning flesh. (Note that CEPO, a government organization in the country with the most CCTV cameras per capita of anywhere in the world, wants reports to go directly to them!)

Having children falsely report people would ruin a lot of lives. The amount of information available to governments now is already far too much. Every time something like this gets into the system erroneously (kids reporting falsely), somebody is going to get pulled aside at customs when the go through a border, have troubles with police for a parking ticket, lose a job opportunity because a red flag came up, or something else. The information will not be used responsibly. We have many years of governments abusing power as evidence and very little in the way of evidence to show that a system like that wouldn't be grossly abused.

A fellow I know had his medical records fraudulently stolen (which obviously required complicity on the part of the medical community) and used against him politically. He had no realistic recourse against those that held (and released) his medical records. Jeez... The system is already working soooooo well... Sigh...

It would be a very good idea to simply delete your account at any site that did adopt something that insane.

I would much rather see a "Facebook Jr." site that was restricted with no adults allowed. With an appropriate license agreement, any adult signing up fraudulently could be prosecuted.

The potential for abuse with a system like that is just far too high.

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