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Last post Author Topic: Pirate vs. Paying Customer illustrated  (Read 18779 times)

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Re: Pirate vs. Paying Customer illustrated
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2010, 10:08:00 AM »
There is no excuse or justification to pirating someone's work.

QFE. And your thoughts pretty much mirror my own.  I thought it very telling when someone in another thread on DC was very skeptical that all of the music on my computer was purchased in one form or another.  It's not that hard not to pirate- just decide not to do it and don't.  For any reason or no reason.  Two wrongs has *never* made anything right. 

But everyone has to realize that for themselves- or not.  No matter how much you tell someone, no matter how much protection that you put in, no matter how many PSAs you annoy your paying customers with, pirates will pirate, because it's a state of mind that *none* of that will change.

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Re: Pirate vs. Paying Customer illustrated
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2010, 11:06:22 AM »
Agreed. I don’t have anything on my machines that isn't either licensed or free/donationware. I don’t harass those who do; I just don’t do it myself. I used to have to go over to my brother's house and clean up his computer about every three months because he is the opposite: he doesn’t have anything on his box that IS licensed. And he never updates whatever AV I install for him. I don’t even bother anymore; got tired of it. There are those who could never afford the stuff otherwise, and there are those who just don’t feel like paying for anything. Se la vie - I am not able to change that and so I don’t even try.

The only music I have here that wasn’t purchased is about 30-40 tracks that I downloaded from the original Napster -before they were sued and declared to be non-legal. And all of those were clips I wanted for slideshows that weren't commercially available otherwise, though some are available now. I was just brought up differently I guess and it hasn’t worn off. And at my age I don’t think it will now!  :P

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Re: Pirate vs. Paying Customer illustrated
« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2010, 05:39:32 AM »
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Re: Pirate vs. Paying Customer illustrated
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2011, 03:59:24 AM »
Arise, thread, arise! (Necro thread revival!)

Another example of why it's better to pirate when DRM is concerned:

When it comes to EA games, you really should watch what you say.

That's what one BioWare forum-goer learned after possibly being banned by asking BioWare, an EA studio, "Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?" The comment resulted in a temporary 72 hour ban, but more importantly meant that the user couldn't play a brand-new copy of Dragon Age II during that time.


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Re: Pirate vs. Paying Customer illustrated
« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2011, 05:05:00 AM »
Arise, thread, arise! (Necro thread revival!)

Another example of why it's better to pirate when DRM is concerned:

When it comes to EA games, you really should watch what you say.

That's what one BioWare forum-goer learned after possibly being banned by asking BioWare, an EA studio, "Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?" The comment resulted in a temporary 72 hour ban, but more importantly meant that the user couldn't play a brand-new copy of Dragon Age II during that time.


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Update: We just received word from EA's Andrew Wong that the situation was actually an error. "Unfortunately, there was an error in the system that accidentally suspended a user's entire account," he told Ars. "Immediately upon learning of the glitch, EA took steps to restore the user's macro account and apologized for the inconvenience."

Hmmm... Maybe. Not sure if I believe that or not, but whatever. Could be true. Could be back-peddling.

Still, what happened there happens regularly elsewhere.

In one game that I paid for, I complained and then been banned with in-game punishments. I got pretty pissed at that and turned it into a game to screw with them while I was banned. What was really fun was letting them know that they'd broken some laws and could face prosecution (which was true, but I'd never pursue it).

In another game that I paid for, there was an extended service outage. After a while (and a fair amount of booze), I wrote in to support with an extremely blunt email about their incompetence. I received a snarly letter back. As far as I'm concerned, if you're the one dropping the ball, you should brace yourself to get what you deserve -- lambasted for your incompetence. Ahem... Who's the one that f***ed up?


Getting banned, ignored, or marginalized is common in the game industry.

But you can't really pirate an online service. (In one sense anyways.)

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Re: Pirate vs. Paying Customer illustrated
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2011, 01:38:57 PM »
But you can't really pirate an online service. (In one sense anyways.)

True, but in this case I don't think Dragon Age 2 is an online game. AFAIK it just uses the internet for DRM purposes.


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Re: Pirate vs. Paying Customer illustrated
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2011, 06:15:19 PM »
But you can't really pirate an online service. (In one sense anyways.)

True, but in this case I don't think Dragon Age 2 is an online game. AFAIK it just uses the internet for DRM purposes.

Ugh! That's fugly.

The original post is so right. If you want games/music/movies that work properly... Sigh...

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