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« on: February 09, 2010, 01:35:06 AM »

I've noticed over the years that I don't get much enjoyment out of playing computer games.. but I still love reading video game reviews, and vicariously enjoying the magic ability of a video game to transport you into a imaginary world.

The latest game that has really captured my attention (on paper at least) is Mass Effect 2, which is a science fiction video action game with a very heavy focus on storytelling and emotional relationship between characters.

Has anyone played it yet? What did you think?

Here's from a recent review:

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It's often been asked if it's possible for games to make people cry. Mass Effect 2 sidesteps the question by leaving it up to you whether you want to commiserate or smirk cynically at the pain of others. It would come across as contrived in many games, however the writing here is strong enough that it feels authentic when a character breaks down in tears. And fortunately, the drama has been leavened with a healthy dose of humor to keep things from getting too heavy.

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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 01:45:40 AM »

Mass Effect was pretty decent, nice graphics and OK storyline... but it was very repetitive, and the weapons were seriously unbalanced. Furthermore, the good/neutral/bad-guy character development didn't really work, the dialogue options felt too biased. I built my character as a pretty cynical/tough guy, but ended up taking a good-guy dialogue part since there was basically only the choice between good-guy and ridiculously nasty.

It was a good enough experience that I would definitely not mind spending some time with the sequel smiley
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 09:10:28 AM »

I've played through the entire game once - it's awesome.
Henchmen are useful without micromanagement, gun fights are really fun and challenging, all in all a big upgrade.

The good/bad responses have a great deal towards how the NPC's react to you in future missions. On at least one occasion you have to choose which of your henchmen you piss off, losing their loyalty for the rest of the game.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 10:21:18 PM »

I'm a pretty hardcore gamer, but this is one game that has been on my radar for awhile, and I STILL ain't got around to trying.  It looks absolutely awesome so I'm pretty pissed that I ain't tried it lol
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 03:21:33 PM »

I've started playing (my wife got it for me for my birthday on Steam).  It's really gripping so far- I had ME1, but never got around to playing it, so I can't make any comparisons there, but the story so far is really good, as is the action.  I'll definitely agree with Subsailor, the henchmen are useful without micromanaging; in fact the only time I manage them is to use their biotics, or if I need them to specifically do something for the mission in most cases.

There's a detailed plot analysis; I haven't read it since I'm not done, and it's of course full of spoilers.  But other than that, most reviews have been very enthusiastic about it, and I am too so far.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 07:36:02 AM »

Wraith808, playing the second game before the first in this case seems like a bad idea as you apparently get a more engaging story by continuing your current arch from the first game into the second using a save import feature
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 07:44:05 AM »

Wraith808, playing the second game before the first in this case seems like a bad idea as you apparently get a more engaging story by continuing your current arch from the first game into the second using a save import feature

From what I've read they've taken that into account, and I had the first on the 360, so I wouldn't be importing games in any case. *shrugs*  I'm not really planning to go back to play the first one- it was just one of those things I never got to.  But thanks for the heads up in any case.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2010, 08:33:29 AM »

Wraith808, playing the second game before the first in this case seems like a bad idea as you apparently get a more engaging story by continuing your current arch from the first game into the second using a save import feature
Great - I'm pretty sure I nuked the savegames.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 05:51:17 PM »

You guys may find this useful: http://www.masseffectsaves.com/
Basically you can find a save that matches the path you decided to take in the previous game, even if it was on the 360, and then continue on from that.

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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2010, 09:18:31 AM »

I played it yesterday and didn't enjoy it.

As much as I enjoy reading about video games, I think it's time for me to admit that I really just do not enjoy playing them.

Playing these modern games makes me feel like I'm one of those grumpy old guys in a movie screaming at the kids on the street to "keep down that racket!"  It's just too much information -- controlling squads of multiple teammates in a 3d world with all these noise and explosions coming in from all directions.. frankly i just want the damn racket to stop so i can concentrate.  Too many controls and options and special abilities.. it's just information overload.


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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2010, 02:43:39 AM »

This is copied and pieced together from various chunks of conversations from yesterday, in the donationcoder IRC channel. All I did was remove the irrelevant stuff. I found it rather amusing. It's a bit long, but worth reading if you want a chuckle.

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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2010, 03:44:48 PM »

I think 'lol' and 'haha' are appropriate right now.  Thmbsup
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2010, 02:28:18 AM »

This is somewhat off topic and more of a reply to App's IRC quote:

I've been thinking lately about an extremely easy game mode, something like "infant mode" or "automated mode," because I have lots of nieces and nephews who like to play games but since they're so young they need someone else to do most of it with them or at least have someone there telling them exactly what to do.

So lately I've been thinking of making modern games with regular difficulties with normal controls, but also special "baby" modes so that anybody can "play" the game and learn the plot and see how it ends. I think Nintendo has recently patented something similar, where you can get hints and tips and even watch videos on how to solve certain puzzles in games, and potentially even just "skip" the puzzle so you can continue on. But my idea takes it a little further, perhaps, and just assists you by basically taking control away from the player in certain circumstances and doing it for you.

Almost like a semi-autopilot. The player can press buttons and move the character around and stuff, but if the player does something dangerous like attempts to jump off the cliff into the spikes, the game will prevent that from happening. Or if the player goes into a group of enemies and isn't defending himself, the game will do the fighting for him.

Anyway, it's just something I was thinking about so that my little monkeys could "play" the same games I do, but the difficulty would be appropriate for both myself and for the little tykes.
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2010, 02:41:39 AM »

I got a nice, "borrowed from society" -version of it - just plug and play!
The game is great, but it`s kind of same crap all day along.
Only good thing is, that Im playing with Obama!
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2010, 04:59:06 PM »

Deo i like this idea -- let me take it further, i think a nice really casual mode that games could have might be to be able to play them on "advice" mode, where the game would basically play itself, but take "advice" from the player.

So if player wanted to move the character, the game AI would do the shooting.. If player wanted to do the shooting, the AI would take over moving, etc.  Up to the point where the game would basically play itself and let the player occasionally do things like set a general goal or make an important choice.

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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2010, 05:00:49 PM »

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If anyone wants my copy of Mass Effect 2, i'm willing to send it out; i haven't activated the downloadable content, so that is available as well.  US only please, just to save me shipping costs.  If more than one person wants it i will send it to a person who has written a coding snack or mini-review.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2010, 05:10:04 PM »

Deo i like this idea -- let me take it further, i think a nice really casual mode that games could have might be to be able to play them on "advice" mode, where the game would basically play itself, but take "advice" from the player.

So if player wanted to move the character, the game AI would do the shooting.. If player wanted to do the shooting, the AI would take over moving, etc.  Up to the point where the game would basically play itself and let the player occasionally do things like set a general goal or make an important choice.

There a was a game wrapped around such concept in its entirety, Dungeon Siege. As expected, letting the game play itself was pretty boring, though part of the blame lies in the game as a whole, as it ends up being not exactly my idea of "fun" if you take a more active role, which is necessary as the AI rarely makes good decisions regarding path finding and enemy targeting.
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2010, 05:14:51 PM »

Actually, I liked dungeon siege... 2 and the expansions, not so much, but the original was pretty fun.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2010, 10:21:15 PM »

There a was a game wrapped around such concept in its entirety, Dungeon Siege. As expected, letting the game play itself was pretty boring, though part of the blame lies in the game as a whole, as it ends up being not exactly my idea of "fun" if you take a more active role, which is necessary as the AI rarely makes good decisions regarding path finding and enemy targeting.

I think I played a bit of Dungeon Siege and I don't remember the AI playing for me at all. Was it a setting you had to activate in the menus or was auto-play on by default?

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I'll take it. For those that played the first one, am I missing anything (besides importing save data) if I don't play the first?
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2010, 10:23:37 AM »

I've noticed over the years that I don't get much enjoyment out of playing computer games.. but I still love reading video game reviews, and vicariously enjoying the magic ability of a video game to transport you into a imaginary world.

I have found as I have gotten older that I love playing games just as much as I used to, if not more, but my free time to do so has dwindled to such a small amount that I don't have nearly the time to play every title that catches my eye.

What may be the factor that explains our different opinions on games may be the different genres of games we play. I prefer games with strong RPG influences like Fallout 3, Oblivion, Diablo (I and II), and Sacred 2.

(Side note to f0dder: If RPGs fit anywhere into your bag of interests give Sacred 2 a try if you want to see the good/evil campaign choices done right.)

I've never been into the MMO thing, either. The under-18 crowd are a bunch of game enjoyment-killing ass-hats & the over-18 crowd is predominantly unemployed people living in their mother's basement who do weird things like to get 'online married' on a mountaintop in the middle of a raid in World of Warcraft & other socially deviant things like that.
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2010, 06:28:07 PM »

I think I played a bit of Dungeon Siege and I don't remember the AI playing for me at all. Was it a setting you had to activate in the menus or was auto-play on by default?

It's auto-play by default, you only have to take care of moving your characters to the next pack of enemies as well as keeping an eye on HP and MP figures and pressing hotkeys accordingly. You can tune the behavior a bit to avoid dying faster than you should and to get a better management of your resources, since as I said the AI is far from perfect, and you usually end up with your characters attacking different enemies instead of focusing their attacks on a single one, while the enemies beat the hell out of one of your magicians or archers. Plus it also has the bad habit of chasing enemies on the run, which is a pretty bad idea as the only possible outcome is encountering even more enemies. And unlike Diablo, it's pretty difficult to face a mob and emerge victorious, specially as the game progresses.

And that's why a more active role is really necessary, which again, doesn't make the game a whole lot better, it simply adds more interactivity, something that hack and slay games are not famous for anyway.

Also, it seems it's possible to reduce your options of interaction even further, leaving you only with the hotkey pressing, or at least that's what the most vocal critics say about the game. I'll have to test it to be sure.
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2012, 08:14:32 PM »

Did I never post a follow up to my Mass Effect 2 thread?  It turns out i gave it another try and realllly liked it.

Mass Effect 3 is coming out soon and it will be one of the few games I play this year.
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2012, 03:11:59 AM »

I really loved ME 2, so I would probably be playing it too, if it wasn't for EA not putting it on Steam Angry.
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2012, 04:39:41 AM »

I really loved ME 2, so I would probably be playing it too, if it wasn't for EA not putting it on Steam Angry.


With EA having their own distribution platform now, I wouldn't count on ever seeing their stuff on another platform. /shrug
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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2012, 05:47:15 AM »

With EA having their own distribution platform now, I wouldn't count on ever seeing their stuff on another platform. /shrug

they cut out only Steam. ME3 can be obtained from other vendors but requires the buyers to install Origin in order to activate ME3. the Origin client is needed for both, single and multiplayer part of the game.

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