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JavaJones:
Believe it or not some people (and I'm not saying "a lot" necessarily, but some) actually do *need* 64 bit. People like me doing demanding 3D rendering. People working on big complex images in Photoshop or complex layouts in InDesign. Etc. Eventually it's pretty much a given that memory use even for "normal" apps will get high enough to justify it.

- Oshyan

sgtevmckay:
Here is a simple truth.
64 bit is coming on full
32 bit is going to die
it is just a matter of when!?!!

I am a firm believer in killing 32 bit
I believe that Windows 7 should have killed off 32 bit support, and I suggest that Windows 8 will altogether
So be prepared!
NOW is the time to invest in the future, with your software and systems!

Please let me explain.

Quite simply it is for change and advancement.
How many folks realize that we could actually have 128 bit NOW, if there was a call

The full induction of 64 bit is well past due, and 64 bit has been available for well over a decade now.
As we make more demands on our collective and individual systems, more needs to be produced to advance towards those requests, hence 64 bit.
As we require more, more will be needed, hence the more memory, larger HDD, and deadly fast processors.
it is just the law of averages.

Not to deeply date myself, but i remember the days of BASIC, FORTRAN, and 8 bit programs.
I remember a time that a GUI was just a pipe dream, and the 30+ pound word processor with the vomit green, 8 inch screen, was the SH*T!!!
I remember when Texas instruments was on the top of the electronic consumer food chain.
I still have a commodore 64 lying around collecting dust somewhere
I remember the death of 8 bit

I remember a company (Sun Valley Communications Inc), the BBC, and the introduction of 16bit
I remember windows 3.X and the GUI dream come alive.
I remember that company (Sun Valley Communications Inc) becoming AOL
I remember a lot of good programs in 16bit
I remember leaving a lot of those programs behind, and the same complaints then as I hear now; "Why change if it works"
I remember the death of 16bit

I remember Windows 95 (unfortunately) and the introduction of 32 bit into windows 98 SE
I remember thinking back to some of those 16 bit programs and wishing I had them, but the programmers of the time refusing to update there software in the face of advancement.
I remember the first Unix 64bit, and the game consoles that have shown us just how far behind desktop technology was! and still is today!
I look back at the authors of some great 16 bit programs, and wish they would have swallowed their pride and moved  forward as technology does.

I remember Windows 2000 server and XP Pro
hands down: the best Windows OS's ever. To date
I look back at the explosion of the true 32 bit era.
Fondly I am remembering a lot of programs already abandoned, either by time, or refusal to move forward.
and again I am hearing the same old arguments; "If it work why change!"
I am seeing the death of 32 bit.
In a few years I will have a few fond memories of great programs left behind by stubborn authors and programmers who have refused to progress with the technology, but I will not remember their programs and names in time.

The growing pains of 64 bit in recent years was not helped at all by MS, Vista was and remains a tragedy!
BUT, 64 bit is the way to go.
32 bit has seen it's time, and it's limits are quickly being realized...we stood still in the 32bit era too long, and now it is a race to advance before we hit a collective limitation wall.

64 bit offers so much more, so much faster, and with more capabilities from our equipment.

I say to you:
Any one who says to stay with 32 bit is an enemy of progress.
Any Company that refuses to move to a 64 bit platform does not deserve your money or respect.
Any programmer that tells me not to explore 64 bit solutions, is no friend of mine
Any one who suggests to me to stay with 32 bit....well they just set themselves up for a famous Sarge Tongue Lashing  :mad:

Already we are seeing the effects of software that is incompatible with 64 bit, and programmers that refuse to upgrade their software.
Ultimately these folks will be left behind, and may be lamented for their great software.
As I have done so many times before in the past.
Apparently I will again  :(
This is the price of change, and advancement, under stubbornness, and I willing pay that price  8)

I have already been working with 64bit Unix and linux distros for several years, and this is the way to go!

Ultimately I would see the death of Rainmeter 32bit and Circle Dock 32bit, and full on support to 64bit, that is my future priority, but I will make every attempt not to leave 32bit users behind, but this is something to consider as we move towards the future!
One day I would even love to see a cross platform solution, but knowing how Circle Dock works now, I can not see this with out a ground up rebuild solution.

"If it works why change!"
Because that is the way of advancement, of change, of growth, and that is where I am going.
Please come with me on this marvelous journey as well.

JavaJones:
My question about 64 bit is more like "Why not?". Sure, it's not going to make a big positive impact on everyone's computing, at least not yet, but it's certainly not going to *hurt*. What does hurt is the fragmentation. I agree with you, Windows 7 should have been 64 bit only, at least for all SKUs aside from Starter (netbook CPUs like Atom are not 64 bit, are they?). 64 bit capable CPUs have been around long enough to be in the vast majority of systems that could even support Win7. If they don't go all 64 bit for Win8 I'll be really pissed. Those of us who *are* "early adopters" have to suffer with lack of driver support because hardware vendors don't see it as a priority due to MS not pushing it. It's up to MS to end the chicken-or-egg issue.

- Oshyan

Archon of Fate:
I completely agree with this, however I do not have the money to change to windows 7 64 bit but this is something I WILL do in the future.
change is what preserves us all, we cannot allow ourselves to become stagnant.

To the Sarge... Well said! Had we all just said "why change if it works" computers would still be the size of a room (if they would have been invented at all)
technology is the future, and it continues to advance every day as you said... if we stop advanceing we are on the quick path to doom.

Markham:
The problem is, Sarge, that Microsoft's support for 64-bit is half-hearted. Ask yourself this, how many 64-bit applications do they produce and, more importantly, how many development systems do they produce specifically for 64-bit application development? Visual Studio 2008 is a 32-bit application as is the forthcoming Visual Studio 2010.

The only 64-bit compiler they have (and it, I believe, is licensed from Intel) is for C++. A few years ago, I and a fellow journalist, were invited to the Microsoft Development Lab in Cambridge, UK, and we talked to several of the people working there. Much of what I saw and heard can not be disclosed even now save to say that I saw a demonstration of compilers and other development tools that many developers would sell their grandmothers/wives/right arms to get hold of! A key employee told us he could not understand his company's blinkered fixation with C++ arguing that C# was specified to be a far superior and more robust language but that it had been "neutered" and relegated to the dotNET framework.


Mark

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