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Author Topic: Yea, I won't be getting an iPad anytime soon  (Read 17729 times)
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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2010, 12:35:23 PM »

And I thought i had issues with Apple.. some of you are foaming at the mouth.  tongue
This release really seems to have struck a nerve with some.
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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2010, 12:38:16 PM »

LOL, I recently found something... do you still know Atari?

http://www.atari-computermuseum.de/stpad.htm

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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2010, 12:58:37 PM »

well, i'd not thought about it but i read elsewhere (sorry, can't remember the site now), that the iPad follows the usual upgrade path...

wait for version 2 to have multi-tasking.

wait for version 3 to have usb.

wait for version,... you get the idea. which i think hits the nail on the head. apple could have released the iPad version 1 that had everything included - but why do that when you can get people to keep buying the same product over and over again. hate them.
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2010, 01:06:21 PM »

Nice philosophical take on how cynical and wrongheaded the iPad is in terms of openness:

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The iPhone can, to some extent, be forgiven its closed nature. The mobile industry has not historically been comfortable with openness, and Apple didn’t rock that boat when it released the iPhone. The iPhone was no more or less open than devices that preceded it, devices like those from Danger that required jumping similar bureaucratic hurdles to develop for.

That the iPad is a closed system is harder to forgive. One of the foremost complaints about the iPhone has been Apple’s iron fist when it comes to applications and the development direction of the platform. The iPad demonstrates that if Apple is listening to these complaints, they simply don’t care. This is why I say that the iPad is a cynical thing: Apple can’t – or won’t – conceive of a future for personal computing that is both elegant and open, usable and free.

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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2010, 01:51:47 PM »

A more positive (and ominous) philosophical view:
http://stevenf.tumblr.com...-about-computers-ive-been
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« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2010, 02:27:17 PM »

The iPad looks like a device that mainly facilitates media consumption. Since it is closed, that limits it to media that Apple approves of. Got plenty of media already with the electronic gizmos I already have. I don't like restrictions on things I own. Pass.

Jailbreak the sucker and let me put whatever apps I want on it, and you have a tablet PC with some elegance. Then you're waking me up. Until then, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2010, 04:06:52 PM »

they seem to be producing plenty of iDiots...
Surely you all realize that it's an iCon!

It's BAIT, I tell you... BAIT!*




















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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2010, 05:41:45 PM »

Ouch... that's a bit harsh, isn't it?  I'd hope it gets upgrades soon.. especially for multi-tasking.  It's not a bad device in my book... just not positioned and/or priced correctly, with some addressable shortcomings.
Coming soon! The souped up version, code name iPlod.
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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2010, 05:52:32 PM »



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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2010, 12:50:56 PM »

Well, as the Alex Payne piece illustrates, with each new device, Apple becomes more and more closed. You're only welcome as long as your handing over cash to almighty Steve (including monthly fees).
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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2010, 02:10:18 PM »

lmfao, there is a huge review in the UK newspaper 'The Sun' about the iPad, written by "Richard Bacon" the headline says "I Predict 'appy' ending for iPad"

A few quotes from the column which I will try fully type up for y'all later:

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People don't like the name because it sounds like sanitary protection (some people are too silly)

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Its hot sex


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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2010, 02:48:33 AM »

A more positive (and ominous) philosophical view:
http://stevenf.tumblr.com...-about-computers-ive-been
Oh please. Apple continues to occupy a relatively small minority of every market it occupies *except* media distribution (iTunes). How can this guy take that and extrapolate that the world is going the Apple way, like it or not? Apple doesn't serve the 80% of the 80/20 rule because it's ultimately better for everyone, they do it because it's more profitable for them. Meanwhile every company selling scads more devices than they are is doing it differently in almost every way, allowing multi-tasking, having open app ecosystems, and on and on. Sure, the "Apple Experience" is potentially better in some respects, but one has to wonder why, if the closed system offers the benefits the author proposes, everyone is still opting for something other than an Apple device. Is it solely price? I don't think so. Not with $99 iPhones. But maybe in that case it's the carrier lock-in? It's just symptomatic of Apple's whole philosophy, so don't expect that to fundamentally change things when the AT&T exclusivity ends...

iPad  thumb down

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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2010, 10:07:19 PM »

I've been a little out of touch lately, lots going on. Here is my condensed response:

TouchBook looks awesome.
Love the Hitler response.
Cool al3x article.
ROFL @ Ackbar!
If you're sick to frackin' death of hearing about frackin' Apple, try reading this.

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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2010, 11:42:24 PM »

More satire from The Onion:
http://www.theonion.com/c...pple_finally_unveils_ipad

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Apple CEO Steve Jobs unveiled Apple's new tablet computer, the iPad, during a presentation in San Francisco last week. Here are some of its features:
  •     * Awkward name enables Twitter users to make the same joke over and over and over again
  •     * Super slick design makes it impossible to hold, pick up, or stop from sliding down the street
  •     * Softly whimpers if left alone for too long
  •     * Maureen Dowd New York Times column generator
  •     * Photo album of the Jobs family summer vacation in Aruba
  •     * Free pair of black-rimmed glasses, turtleneck, and position at New York City architecture firm
  •     * Can withstand breezes up to 3 mph
  •     * To ensure that its users receive the constant public attention they crave, the iPad will emit the phrase "Hey, does that guy have an iPad?" every eight minutes
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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2010, 05:29:28 AM »

And Google's response to iPad using the Chrome OS. Looks interesting.

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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2010, 07:19:07 AM »

iFlop, I suspect.
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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2010, 02:02:25 AM »

And Google's response to iPad using the Chrome OS. Looks interesting.

http://dev.chromium.org/c...ience/form-factors/tablet

Google would have to call it the gString.
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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2010, 09:55:33 AM »

Another idea Google stole from someone who has stolen it before.
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« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2010, 11:11:46 AM »

there are other deal breakers for me -- the lock-in the apple application store is totally unacceptable and alone would make the device something i wouldn't want to get involved in.

While I am not an Apple fan at all, I did get an iPod Touch for free from a drawing.  I have found the device quite nice, and as to your problem with iTunes AppStore lockin, that just isn't true.  There are at least two major competitors that, while not sanctioned, are good alternatives that do not require iTunes or force you to go through Apple at all.  Cydia is the biggest and best.  They do require you to "Jail-break" your device, but it is a software update that can be reversed - at least most of the time (haven't tried it myself, so I am not sure what the pitfalls are).  It does void the Apple warranty, but if you are trying to avoid iTunes and the AppStore, then you really won't be taking part in any warranty issues anyway (most likely).  I expect the same to occur and work for the iPad since it is supposedly backward compatible with most or all iPhone apps already.

Just thought I would throw that out there for you.

EDIT:  Just thought to let you know, I don't send a penny of support to Apple either.  The device was free, and everything I have is from the AppStore, but it is only free software.  If it isn't free - it isn't on my system, period.  One day, I may "jailbreak" it and start buying through Cydia, but for now, I haven't had a real compelling reason. Also, many developers are comming up with ingenious ways around iStore policy.  They post it for free (so Apple doesn't get paid for it unless there is a charge to have it posted) and then have an in-app store, so you can buy directly without supporting Apple at all.  Haven't done that yet, but may well look into it if I find some decent software I want that uses this feature.  So far, nada.
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« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2010, 11:20:06 PM »

For us lucky users of Chrome, there's now an extension that can duplicate the iPad experience on your computer, for free!

https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ilejdkfldemlafkeebadjppfhdiimbfd

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« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2010, 03:47:44 AM »

For us lucky users of Chrome, there's now an extension that can duplicate the iPad experience on your computer, for free!

https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ilejdkfldemlafkeebadjppfhdiimbfd

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« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2010, 03:13:47 PM »

By the size of it I always think it's made for use in your home.
But it's missing the most important app of all for this :
A house remote control. switch-on light, close doors, tv on.

Only with that the iPad might sell, but that's not going to happen.

And I wonder, a bigger IPhone means a bigger screen explosion too?
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« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2010, 03:35:31 PM »

A article from Win7News...

"Alternatives to the iPad

If you keep up with the tech news world, you undoubtedly already know that late last month, Apple introduced their "magical, incredible, awesome, extraordinary" slate-style computer to much fanfare. At least, those were the words that Steve Jobs used to describe the device in his keynote at the January 27th Apple event in San Francisco.
http://www.win7news.net/VJFY96/100211-iPad-Pitch

Come on, dude - we know it's your job to hype it up, but it's just a tablet. Tablet PCs have been around for a decade. Microsoft brought out Windows XP Tablet Edition in 2001. A Linux-based tablet device called the ProGear WebPad was around even before that.
http://www.win7news.net/V...Y96/100211-ProGear-WebPad

There was a plethora of Windows based Tablet PCs shown at this year's Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in early January. At that show, Steve Ballmer unveiled HP's slate device, which runs Windows 7 and is expected to be available sometime this year.
http://www.win7news.net/VJFY96/100211-Slate-Device

The JooJoo (formerly known as the Crunchpad) is a tablet device that runs a proprietary OS and the Archos 7 is an Android-based tablet, whereas the Archos 9 is a Windows 7 tablet that's already available now. Dell's Mini 5 and Notion Ink's Adam are also Android-based tablets. In fact, you can see a chart detailing the features of some of the new and upcoming tablets here:
http://www.win7news.net/VJFY96/100211-Showdown

If you take a moment to look over those comparison specs, you might be wondering exactly what's supposed to be so special about the iPad. Many of its competitors run full fledged Windows or Linux operating systems with which you can do anything you would do on a Windows or Linux notebook computer, whereas the iPad runs the iPhone OS - a very stripped down version of OS X. In fact, you might say the iPad isn't really a tablet computer at all; it's a very large iPod Touch. And I'm not the other one who thinks so:
http://www.win7news.net/V...Y96/100211-Big-iPod-Touch

The Windows, Linux and Android tablets support multi-tasking (something that anyone who wants to use a computer seriously needs to be able to do). The iPad and JooJoo don't. All of the other tablets have a built-in camera. The iPad doesn't. Several of the competing tablets have SD slots so you can expand the storage capacity. The iPad requires that you use an awkward dongle to get that capability.

Based on my own first impressions of the iPad, I wrote a blog post called iPad? iDon'tThinkSo and then TechRepublic published my article 10 Reasons I'll Be Passing on the iPad, which you can read at h
http://www.win7news.net/V...6/100211-Pass-on-the-iPad

I know some will accuse me of always being an Apple nay-sayer, but I actually wanted to like this device because I've been wishing for the "perfect" tablet ever since I bought my first one back in the early 2000s. It was a convertible model from Toshiba and I really liked it for taking notes and drawing. But it was heavy and thick, and its specs were very low compared to regular notebooks that cost the same.

Ever since I bought my first little Sony T series notebook, I've longed for the same thing in convertible tablet format. So I was excited when I read, a few days ago, that Sony representatives have said the company is "very interested" in entering the tablet market.
http://www.win7news.net/VJFY96/100211-Sony-Tablet

Sony's laptops have the same sort of "cool" factor as Apple's products. My new Sony X, which I wrote about in last week's editorial, would make a wonderful tablet device. Of course, Sony hasn't yet revealed much about their tablet plans. For one thing, they don't say whether it would run Windows 7, as their notebook computers do, or a proprietary operating system, like their Dash - a touchscreen device they introduced at CES that accesses web content and proprietary apps over wi-fi:
http://www.win7news.net/V...96/100211-Dash-App-Device

Apparently Google is interested in the tablet market, too. They recently unveiled photos and video of what they envision a Chrome-based tablet would look like. In fact, they got a jump on Apple by showing their "concept tablet" two days before the Big Reveal by Jobs. Since the Chrome OS is a cloud-based operating system centered on the web, such a tablet would probably suffer from the same lack of full computing functionality as the iPad - but it might very well be less costly and more "open" (in terms of availability of apps from different sources) than Apple's tablet.
http://www.win7news.net/VJFY96/100211-GPad

Meanwhile, there's a brand new controversy brewing over who was responsible for the relatively lack of success Microsoft had with its tablet PCs. Dick Brass, a former Microsoft Vice President, pointed fingers in many directions (both internal and external) in a recent opinion piece for the New York Times:
http://www.win7news.net/V...0211-Creative-Destruction

On the other hand, when it comes to the tablet, maybe there just aren't enough people out there who love the idea as much as I (and a few other hardcore fans) do. After all, even Apple's magic touch wasn't able to generate "a whole lotta love" for a slate, no matter how sleek and sexy it is. In fact, the reaction from both the tech press and consumer polls was less than encouraging. Despite all the hype that had tech types drooling prior to the launch event, once people had a chance to see what it was (and wasn't), interest flagged almost immediately. According to a Retrevo poll, the percentage of survey respondents who said they were not interested in buying one rose from 26% before the event to 52% afterward. Ouch. That had to hurt.
http://www.win7news.net/VJFY96/100211-iPad-Love

And here's more bad news for Apple: a Chinese company called Shenzhen Great Loong Brother Industrial is threatening to sue over the iPad's design, which strongly resembles that of a tablet they've been selling since last year. And Fujitsu claims they own the name "iPad," which they marketed as a Windows CE- powered handheld computer in 2002, and yet another company, Mag-Tek, also made a device by that name in 2003.
http://www.win7news.net/VJFY96/100211-iPad-Name

If the device hasn't gone into mass production yet, Apple might not fight too hard to hang onto the name. It has been the butt of hundreds of jokes since the unveiling (prior to which most tech pundits were speculating that it would be called the iSlate). It seems the first thing many people think of when they hear the name is, well, a feminine hygiene product.
http://www.win7news.net/V...FY96/100211-The-iPad-Name

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the perfect tablet computer. Will Sony make my dream come true? Will HP or Dell finally get it right? Will it be some little company we haven't even heard of yet? I don't know, but I think I'll know it when I see it.

What about you? Are you interested in the tablet concept at all, or will you stick with a regular notebook or netbook for your portable computing needs? Does the iPad look to fill a gap in the market that doesn't really exist (between the smart phone and the notebook computer)? Which tablet form factor do you prefer: the slate or the convertible? What's the right price point for a tablet device? Is the iPad (at $499 to $849) too expensive? Which of the iPad's missing features (if any) are deal breakers for you - SD slot, removable battery, HDMI output, camera, USB ports? What about the size? Is it too big, too small or just right? What company do you think will finally make the "perfect tablet?" We invite you to discuss this topic in our forum at
http://www.win7news.net/V...6/100211-Forum-Discussion
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« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2010, 06:08:37 PM »

Nice find wraith  thumbs up
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« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2010, 06:18:18 PM »

"Alternatives to the iPad" ... glue four iPhones together ...  tongue
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