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Just discovered a HUGE annoyance in Windows 7

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cmpm:
Something's screwy on the install of W7.

A few questions....

Why would a language bar come up without an office program?
Did you update any drivers through windows update-
ie-device manager-right click-update drivers.
Video controllers and ide controllers and network cards.
Are you running as admin? Even then sometimes I have to right click and choose 'run as admin'.

It would be smart I think to disconnect any drives that you are not installing W7 on, then reconnect.

W7 works best to use a password to logon, a requirement for some things to work right.

Also is this an upgrade W7 dvd? Then you have to have vista or xp already on the drive and working. The install options will let you do a clean install by choosing custom install. It will save your old version as windows.old.

And as xp it may take a bit to get the auto updates, or you can run windows update manually through the control panel where it has it's own update program, it's also in the start menu. But that will not cover all your hardware like via device manager. Stay away from third party driver updaters for now as well. Unless you have to, like I did for some things on the laptop. amd/ati needs too much attention.

cmpm:
One more thing, any third party software should be investigated before using it with W7. Outpost has some incompatibility issues I saw in a google search. Don't know for sure why.

Let W7 run with it's own security for a while till it's updated. I received numerous compatibility updates after the install. Give it a few days to adjust I'd think.

tranglos:
One more thing, any third party software should be investigated before using it with W7. Outpost has some incompatibility issues I saw in a google search. Don't know for sure why.

Let W7 run with it's own security for a while till it's updated. I received numerous compatibility updates after the install. Give it a few days to adjust I'd think.
-cmpm (January 17, 2010, 09:47 PM)
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I didn't install a firewall, and after a while I even uninstalled Kaspersky, mostly due to its general slowness. You are right; it seems like a good idea to run without too much third-party stuff. In my case, I had from Friday afternoon to Sunday night to get everything running smoothly. It's been Monday for less than 5 hours here and I already have work waiting for when I wake up. So I wanted to do as much as I could in the time days that I had, and somehow running without an a/v seemed too preposterous to entertain :)

I'm safely back on XP now, though ShadowProtect did screw up one thing and wasted me a few hours. I'll post about this tomorrow, because my experience may help others.

tranglos:
Something's screwy on the install of W7.
-cmpm (January 17, 2010, 09:35 PM)
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Clean fresh install though, with no ancient third-party software on it (yet), just Office and some crucial shareware.

Why would a language bar come up without an office program?
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It's a standard feature of Windows, dating back at least to XP, but I think 95 may have had it as well. Like I said, maybe it's only activated on localized versions of Windows. It's not a part of Office. It's a toolbar that installs on the taskbar, next to your "quick launch" items. It has buttons on it to select input language and keyboard, in case you have more than one keyboard installed. On XP it's a good idea to disable it, because it's easy to accidentally do something that causes Windows to change the input language, and suddenly I can no longer type in Polish. However, if you are a translator like myself, or if you are simply bilingual, this is useful, since you can very quickly alter between different languages, which may require different keyboards (say, English and Russian, or even English and Spanish to get the accents).

Did you update any drivers through windows update-
ie-device manager-right click-update drivers.
Video controllers and ide controllers and network cards.
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Who knows what Windows Update installed! I just let it run its course, so it prompted me a few times to reboot, but nothing major. There is no way to know beforehand if a particular update will mess things up, and trying them one by one would take ages. I hoped at this time the updates wouldn't be excessively bad - but then again, I should have done what has kept me safe so far: wait for the first service pack.

Are you running as admin? Even then sometimes I have to right click and choose 'run as admin'.
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Yes, I was running as admin, with UAC set to default until I ultimately disabled it today.

It would be smart I think to disconnect any drives that you are not installing W7 on, then reconnect.
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Just like it would have helped to unplug the secondary monitor, yes. But really, this is just voodoo to placate a crazy OS. I won't be stooping to unplugging internal drives, unplugging the monitor is where I draw the line :)


W7 works best to use a password to logon, a requirement for some things to work right.
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I used the same username/pass as I had on XP. Kept LAN settings at whatever the installer made them. I had connectivity from the get-go, and everything else had to wait.

Also is this an upgrade W7 dvd? Then you have to have vista or xp already on the drive and working. The install options will let you do a clean install by choosing custom install. It will save your old version as windows.old.
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Clean install, preceded by wiping the XP system drive and creating new partitions. You cannot upgrade XP to Seven, the installer refuses to do it (and I wouldn't try anyway).

cmpm:
lol...yeah, I know how it is.....
with xp it would take a day to be ready for anything (within reason)
and be up and running quickly after a format and install

Perhaps partition 100gb or so, and put W7 on it, keeping XP.
Rebooting will want to go to W7, unless you choose the 'old version of windows' as it states on bootup. Kind of cocky with their own old OS!

Then when your ready, run W7, perhaps leave it up while you are away so it can update. Check the screensaver and power settings to your liking. They were not right on both my laptop and desktop at first.

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