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tranglos:
Looks like I'm about to post a fourth installment in my infamous saga.

I should have known better, since I had tried Joomla before and knew it didn't do a lot of what I needed. But it never occurred to me that it didn't do the "comments under articles" thing. Now I've taken the plunge and don't want to throw three days of work so far out the window (plus the commercial theme).

I know there are extensions that support comments. Trouble is, those extensions outsource comments to external aggragator sites like Disqus.com and a couple others. This is pretty much selling out not only the comments your visitors leave, but also their online identities, to for-profit entities, who will then sell that data to advertisers. Totally not a decent thing to do.

But maybe nothing else is possible, since if Joomla doesn't do comments by itself, it means the database does not have tables to hold them, and I don't know if a plugin can modify the db structure and talk to the db behind Joomla's back. Maybe, maybe not. Does anyone know of a functional comment extension that doesn't require selling out to Da Man?

Spoiler(Incidentally, Joomla is not at all what I've been looking for. Certainly stitching the pages and menus isn't any easier or faster than hand-crafting html like we did in the old times :)  Thing is, it seemed like a high time to cut through the analysis-paralysis and get on with building the site. The thing I'm lookng for - I don't think it exists. Now here's a dumb question: How hard is to learn php enough to start working on a cms?)

Carol Haynes:
Haven't tried is but http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/contacts-and-feedback/articles-comments/4751 looks promising.

I did try the version 4 alpha version of http://compojoom.com/ which is self contained. It needs a fair amount of tweaking CSS sheets to get it to look nice but has some potential. The only reason I dropped it was because of the aplha status.

You could try Supperblogger from http://www.joomlaworks.gr/content/view/56/42/ It isn't free but only costs 7 Euros with lifetime free updates. It is currently a bit rough around the edges and conflicts a bit with the CSS for Artisteer templates but it has a lot of potential I think. There is an option to use Disqus but I haven't used it for a while and I think that is optional.

Or how about http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/contacts-and-feedback/articles-comments/6592 and its associated module http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/contacts-and-feedback/articles-comments/7293 - not tried them but I am going to. [Edit ... Ignore that Crap TOSshall grant IntenseDebate a worldwide, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, fully paid, sublicensable and transferable license to use, edit, modify, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, perform, and otherwise fully exploit the User Submissions in connection with the Site, the Service and IntenseDebate's (and its successors and assigns') business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the Site (and derivative works thereof) or the Service in any media formats and through any media channels (including, without limitation, third party websites) and to allow others to do so. You also hereby do and shall grant each user of the Site, and/or the Service a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Site and the Service, and to use, edit, modify, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions. For clarity, the foregoing license grant to IntenseDebate does not affect your other ownership or license rights in your User Submission(s), including the right to grant additional licenses to the material in your User Submission(s), unless otherwise agreed in writing;
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and that's the thin end of the wedge - I won't be going near!!
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tranglos:
Thanks, Carol, I'll try those.

I'm OK with for-pay extensions for the most part, except I don't think they have trial versions typically. Maybe some do?

(And LOL about that TOS, that's quite what I meant! )

tranglos:
I finally went with this one:
http://azrul.com/products/jom-comment.html

Commercial, but with a nice feature list, own comment database, reCaptcha suport and fairly good looks. Works well so far on my test setup.

Thanks again for the suggestions, Carol!

Veign:
I've used ChronoComments on a project before:
http://www.chronoengine.com/

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