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Author Topic: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows  (Read 6428 times)

moreleech

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IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« on: March 29, 2009, 11:11:04 AM »
Would this be possible?
If i typed without a program like this, I would need to focus the window first

Thanks in advance
« Last Edit: March 29, 2009, 04:05:58 PM by moreleech »

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Re: IDEA: Type in Inactive Windows
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2009, 12:26:52 PM »
Well the cursor (the blinking |) has to be there... How would you keep that thing there?

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Re: IDEA: Type in Inactive Windows
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 12:35:47 PM »
Well the cursor (the blinking |) has to be there... How would you keep that thing there?

How about scrolling and clicking instead of typing?

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 04:17:27 PM »
found a scroll program for inactive windows
http://www.pcworld.c...s_with_wizmouse.html
now i need a mouse click

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 06:24:29 PM »
KatMouse: http://ehiti.de/katmouse/
Allows you to scroll windows with wheel by moving mouse over it BUT without it being "in focus" (not clicking on it)...
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Quoted the above from a lifehacker comment. Maybe it is what you are looking for?

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2009, 06:46:16 PM »
KatMouse: http://ehiti.de/katmouse/
Allows you to scroll windows with wheel by moving mouse over it BUT without it being "in focus" (not clicking on it)...
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Quoted the above from a lifehacker comment. Maybe it is what you are looking for?

im using taekwindow (spelled right) and it basically does the same thing

still needing a program that lets me click in inactive windows

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 12:45:02 AM »
I'm about to try the following:

  http://www.wxftools....angel/deskangel.html

Thanks Mazinga for the KatMouse suggestions as DeskAngel came up for a search of:

  portable katmouse

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it (DeskAngel) works for the case I had in mind: MS Script Debugger...ah well.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2009, 12:48:29 AM by ewemoa »

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2009, 06:36:14 PM »
Im using VordexWheel for inactive scrolling and MoveInactiveWin.exe

Now i just need a program that lets me click in inactive windows, so my active window doesnt get disturbed

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 08:41:42 PM »
Not elegant, but if you want to type in the inactive window, I think you are going to have to save the status of the active window, make the window under the cursor the active window, type or have the typed text pasted, and then restore the original active window.

I can think of a few ways to trigger the procedure, but I don't understand how this will work without three hands (one to position the mouse, and the other two to type).  Or is it one hand typing while the other is mousing?


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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 08:49:04 PM »
Now i just need a program that lets me click in inactive windows, so my active window doesnt get disturbed
A different thought.

Why not just make the active window "always on top".  Then you can click anyplace else you can see and type in that window while still viewing the entire original active window just the way it was.

I have several ways to toggle windows "always on top" (hotkey, button on titlebar, rightclick on titlebar sends window to bottom, etc.)

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2009, 09:41:22 AM »
Well this game if its not in focus or active, then i would disconnect

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2009, 10:07:48 AM »
Well this game if its not in focus or active, then i would disconnect

If the game window loses focus, it quits?

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2009, 06:10:44 PM »
Yes
I like to multi task while playing

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2009, 08:54:04 AM »
understood, but it's beyond me, sorry!

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2009, 10:46:09 AM »
Now i just need a program that lets me click in inactive windows, so my active window doesnt get disturbed

If I understand correctly what you mean, this is a contradiction in terms. A clicked window will receive focus - it's one of the most basic rules of Windows user interface. Conversely, a window that has no focus does not accept input (clicking, typing) - Windows does not send mouse or keyboard messages to an inactive window. And only one window can have focus and receive input at any given time.

Programs like KatMouse work by "manually" sending appropriate scroll messages to a window underneath the mouse. I guess a similar program could send clicks too, but sending a click would activate the window.

While it's also possible to send keyboard messages (though trickier and not all key combinations can be sent reliably), I'm not sure if inactive windows process keyboard messages, and you could not use the physical keyboard to do so, because your physical keypresses would go to the currently active window.


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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2009, 11:31:03 AM »
It's a mindf*ck isn't it?

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Re: IDEA: Click/scroll in Inactive Windows
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2009, 06:53:18 PM »
guess its not possible on windows