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40hz:
I've seen more than a few applications that ran many many LAMP stack servers in the far back-end with Windows servers in the front for the web interface. This is a great setup as you get all the storage and goodness basically free, while your smaller front end can undergo quick and easy changes (relatively).
-Renegade (July 27, 2008, 11:16 PM)
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Now that's my kind of hack! Very smart (if you MUST use ASP) and very sweet. :Thmbsup:
Of course there's nothing that prevents your "other" servers from undergoing quick & easy changes if you know what you're doing. ;)
For Sun, Solaris has "zones", so you can zone out a board with the server still running, swap the board, then rezone it back. The upshot is that you have the server running the whole time with 0% downtime. THAT is some serious sexy stuff! :)
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Sex aside, what exactly is on that board? Is it a full server or what?
Sorry if I sound dumb. My experience with Sun is limited to some work with Solaris OS and one brief but enchanting afternoon spent with a Sparc Station (talk about sex appeal!) way back in the late 90's. 8)
40hz:
Going back to my earlier comment about detente:
Microsoft gives Apache cash to promote open source
By Elizabeth Montalbano, IDG News Service, 07/25/08
Microsoft on Friday expanded its support for the open-source community by giving money to the Apache Software Foundation, the first time it has given money to the long-standing open-source project.
http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/072508-microsoft-gives-apache-cash-to.html?fsrc=rss-linux-applications
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Encouraging, although the caveat concerning Greeks and gifts was never so true as when you're dealing with they guys over in Redmond. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace%2C_extend_and_extinguish
Edvard:
OK, that's it.
I'm not reading the LinuxHater's blog anymore.
It's taking up too much of my time, and is just raising my blood pressure.
I appreciate the technical points made and some of the commenters (err... flamers...) have some valid points for both sides, but... it all gets drowned out by the flaming noise raised to a fever pitch you only see in politics and religion, and the more I read, the more I am plagued with visions of bile-foaming MOUTHS shouting and spitting and drooling all over each other.
I am sure the guy who started this blog had some good intentions, maybe he was sick of the hypocrites, turncoats and misinformation in the Linux community (and who wouldn't be?...) and decided to do something about it.
But now he seems like a Nero, sitting on his fur-lined blog header, smugly watching the gladiators slaughter each other in the comments arena, all the while watching for fresh blood to splatter and incite the crowds even more, and maybe even planning to one day burn the whole thing down to cobble up something even more opulent.
I am thankful that somebody has the guts to peel back a few layers of geek optimism and show off some Linux and OSS's running sores, but where I thought it could be for diagnosis of the disease, instead it's just another sickening display for the cameras.
I may be wrong, but that's how I see it.
40hz:
OK, that's it.
I'm not reading the LinuxHater's blog anymore.
It's taking up too much of my time, and is just raising my blood pressure.
-Edvard (July 30, 2008, 01:41 PM)
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Very valid points. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that many of the posters up on LH don't "get" what it is about and decided it's an open invitation to start slagging the Penguin. Kinda like the crowd that got into the whole Vanna White bashing thing some years back. What started out as a lame talk show joke turned into a full blown character assassination binge that spawned a minor article/book industry. Sad really...
Then again, much of the Linux jingoist nonsense is the product of relative newcomers to FOSS who think they've discovered "The Truth" and are eager to "prove" their enlightenment - along with making a narcissistic nod to their own image of just how "cool" they are..
Once again, Spider Robinson hit it on the head when he observed that nothing really good ever survives being discovered.
I'll still continue to read it. I'm involved with Linux so I might as well hear it up on LH. At least I'm prepared when I run into it at a client site.
As far as blood pressure is concerned, I've found a brisk walk with the dog or a conversation with an intelligent and very lovely redhead works wonders. (Got one of each. Highly recommended!)
When all else fails there's still always "sex and drugs and rock and roll." ( C'mon, two out of three ain't bad! ;))
Renegade:
I've seen more than a few applications that ran many many LAMP stack servers in the far back-end with Windows servers in the front for the web interface. This is a great setup as you get all the storage and goodness basically free, while your smaller front end can undergo quick and easy changes (relatively).
-Renegade (July 27, 2008, 11:16 PM)
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Now that's my kind of hack! Very smart (if you MUST use ASP) and very sweet. :Thmbsup:
Of course there's nothing that prevents your "other" servers from undergoing quick & easy changes if you know what you're doing. ;)
For Sun, Solaris has "zones", so you can zone out a board with the server still running, swap the board, then rezone it back. The upshot is that you have the server running the whole time with 0% downtime. THAT is some serious sexy stuff! :)
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Sex aside, what exactly is on that board? Is it a full server or what?
Sorry if I sound dumb. My experience with Sun is limited to some work with Solaris OS and one brief but enchanting afternoon spent with a Sparc Station (talk about sex appeal!) way back in the late 90's. 8)
-40hz (July 27, 2008, 11:37 PM)
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Not talking about typical PC servers or workstations there... It's about the real deal big ones that you get from Sun with multiple boards, CPUs, etc. etc.
They're heavy duty machines that you put in data centers for things like banks, etc. Think massive data server and that's the right direction.
You can rezone, rip out a board, then rezone back. Solaris in that environment is simply the best you can get. Zero downtime for real, no lie.
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