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Author Topic: WinKey Enhancement Project (WEP)  (Read 32461 times)
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« on: July 01, 2008, 12:40:45 AM »

Do you interesting to enhance <Win>-key functionality? Then welcome to the WinKey Enhancement Project (WEP)! Visit http://wep.dcmembers.com, and tell me what do you think about it. Try my little programs and use it if you like them for free. All of them based on Autohotkey scripting. I plan to collect user's opinions and then to make program that will combine all useful functions with <Win>-key. Also I have an idea to write javascript, which will make possible to compile all functions that end-user checked in the table of functions, online, into the single program with wide functionality of the <Win>-key.
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 06:07:42 AM »

Interesting ideas! I really like the idea of winesc.

May i make a small request? Could you make the ahk source available? smiley

ps: Your donation link isn't correct, it should be: http://www.donationcoder.com/donate/151834
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 06:21:10 AM »

sounds great wep!
a combination of them would be super - also as AHK script/s as jgp says

BTW the link to the mouse scroll one isnt working (404)

EDIT/  embarassed just saw this embarassed
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! Web-page under construction. Some links may be inaccessible!
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 07:50:26 AM »

Two things...

1) WEP isn't the best abbreviation to use, since googling tends to bring up topics about this WEP.

2) <Win>+singlekey shortcuts are actually reserved for the operating system, so remapping them can clash with future windows versions.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 08:24:59 AM »

1) WEP isn't the best abbreviation to use, since googling tends to bring up topics about this WEP.
True, i thought exactly the same.

2) <Win>+singlekey shortcuts are actually reserved for the operating system, so remapping them can clash with future windows versions.
I think it is a bit selfish of windows to reserve a modifier for himself and only use it for 3 or 4 shortcuts tongue
I use the winkey for lots of stuff smiley
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2008, 08:28:18 AM »

jgpaiva: might be selfish, but reserved it is.
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2008, 08:37:17 AM »

Interesting read, f0dder! (omg.. and i lost this guy's conference at my univ this semester.. really dumb  stars)
I still think it's selfish though, and the default win+key shortcuts aren't useful anyway (except for win+l, which i've remaped to win+space cheesy).
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2008, 08:42:55 AM »

the win-key is very useful if I can define its functions myself Wink
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2008, 09:16:31 AM »

I'm with JG & TucknDar - hardcoding the keys (in individual executables for one(!) or more keys) is a bit too limiting, a lot of us here already have our own remapping scripts running - so uploading the source would be nice but if you don't want to do that try to allow those who may be interested in your program to map keys to their preference.
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2008, 12:28:57 PM »

to jgpaiva:
Do you interest only winesc AHK-source?
If, yes - that is here:

;;;;start winesc's ahk-code;;;;;
#CapsLock::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title
WinSet, Transparent, 125, %Title%
KeyWait, CapsLock
WinSet, Transparent, off, %Title%
Return
#Esc::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title
WinMinimize, %Title%
KeyWait, Esc
WinRestore, %Title%
WinActivate, %Title%
Return
;;;;;;;;;;end;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

I like your GridMove and used it.
But I want to make similar <Win>-keyed functionality.
Do you interested to make such program, which will move active window to predefined (by selected customizable profiles) positions?

to tomos and to nosh:
AHK-links I'll include into the homepage some time (next days) later. I think I must to recast my homepage.

to TucknDar:
Autohotkey scripting is that all you need! smiley
Are you interested in the specific functions?

to f0dder:
I cannot and don't want to change wep-abbreviation in the home-page of the project.
I think that this project will not grow so, that someone place information about WEP in WikiPedia pages Wink

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Thanks for your posts
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2008, 01:16:32 PM »

wep: publishing the source allong with the programs on your main page has 2 advantages:
  1 - people will trust your programs (more) because they can compile them themselves
  2 - can serve as a learning ground for others

About gridmove.. I think you just described what gridmove does, i can't understand what you're asking for..
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2008, 02:20:06 PM »

[OT]
BTW,
http://www.mydigitallife....prove-windows-management/
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2008, 06:56:52 PM »

 Grin But that's a nice OT.. Thanks for the heads up, nosh!
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2008, 10:33:04 PM »

About gridmove.. I think you just described what gridmove does, i can't understand what you're asking for..
I do not use GridMove last time and forgot that it has hotkeys (because i did not used them) too. But now I see that "FastMove is a faster alternative to Command mode.   /*incomplete*/""
I meant that I prefer to use simple <Win>-keyed move windows to its positions, without any generation of grid on the screen. Anyway I'll try to make it by myself.
I have an idea: IMHO, it would be greate function to realize window arrange function (as standart system one called by right click on the taskbar) temporarily for exx. by holding CapsLock.
If somebody would make (or already made) such function, please, lem me know about it and give me a link.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2008, 11:07:58 PM »

jgpaiva: might be selfish, but reserved it is.
omg! this is the guy who insisted that we should not call it "the tray"!.

anyway, WEP. good project. thumbs up when you're done, do provide a cheat-sheet sort of display so that the users can view which key is assigned to which tasks..
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2008, 01:42:14 AM »

I meant that I prefer to use simple <Win>-keyed move windows to its positions, without any generation of grid on the screen. Anyway I'll try to make it by myself.

there are a couple of other hotkey scripts here (dc) that move windows around - I'm happy with gridmove so havent paid much attention to them
Also not sure what to search for ...
these might be worth a read
DONE: move around windows with keys + extra feature
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(Feature Request) Arrow keys to move windows inside grid
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2008, 02:08:34 AM »

to TucknDar:
Autohotkey scripting is that all you need! smiley
Are you interested in the specific functions?
Actually my reply was more aimed at the link that f0dder provided. So basically I'm much in favour of your WEP project Wink But as has been requested, please also provide downloadable sources. That way I can either change things myself or at least learn a little bit more about AHK. Thanks!
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2008, 01:02:42 PM »

the default win+key shortcuts aren't useful anyway (except for win+l ...

[OffTopic] is that win+i or win+L  tellme smiley win+i googles nothing so I think it's lock keyboard or lock something? (how do you unlock tellme smiley ) [/OffTopic]
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2008, 01:12:44 PM »

[OffTopic] is that win+i or win+L  tellme smiley win+i googles nothing so I think it's lock keyboard or lock something? (how do you unlock tellme smiley ) [/OffTopic]
smiley It's Win+L, for lock... It then displays a dialog to insert password (or use the fingerprint sensor, if you have one tongue)
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2008, 01:19:12 PM »

thanks for that jg - especially the :p Grin

@wep - not wanting to pester you but I'm looking forward to the MouseScroll upload (thanks!)
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2008, 03:13:35 PM »

Now AHK-source and mousescroll.exe (you can find similar code without WinKey modifier in the Help of the Autohotkey compiler) links available!

I only want to include simple MoveGrid functionality into the final WinKey-program when I'll collect all ideas for all keys that might be used with <Win>-key.
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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2008, 11:44:54 AM »

tomos, I have not seen your links at my past visit to the forum.
thank you for them. I think with them I can realize windows arranging by <Win>-key.

there are a couple of other hotkey scripts here (dc) that move windows around - I'm happy with grid
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2008, 05:15:51 PM »

great!

I tried out the MouseScroll,
Firstly,
I misunderstood it - I thought it would show & scroll through the "box" shown when you Alt+Tab (must look, think there's something like that here...)
Second:
is this a bug? - it scrolls through all windows in one direction (forwards), but it only scrolls between the two last shown windows when I scroll in opposite direction
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2008, 10:41:45 PM »

yes, same here.. if i hold down the Win key then middle-click, Alt+Tab menu would appear and i am able to use Win+Mouse Wheel to switch apps to & fro. however if use Win+Mouse Wheel only, it works as Tomos described.
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2008, 04:24:49 AM »

to tomos and lanux128:

I fixed this "bug". Try new MouseScroll! You can switch in the Alt+Tab menu to next or previous item only by <Win>+scroll wheel up or down.
If you release the <Win>-key, then selected item(window) will activated. To escape Alt+Tab menu just press down <Esc> while you holding <Win>.
Also one very useful preview feature I found, testing MouseScroll: if you press down <Alt> while <Win> is holds you can see (check) the selected item(window). It will be activated, but Alt+Tab menu do not hide. If selected item is not you want to switch to, you can continue to scroll mouse, selecting other items in the Alt+Tab menu and preview them by <Alt>.

it scrolls through all windows in one direction (forwards), but it only scrolls between the two last shown windows when I scroll in opposite direction
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