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Josh:
What about keepass do you consider more secure? I am unsure what you mean when you say "Password management is being done by a separate program". Isnt roboform a separate program? I mean, both encrypt your data and are password protected.

fenixproductions:
Opera has big potential but it will never beat that Firefox  is easier to learn for average user. I've started my "adventure" with it since 6.x version and the only thing which always come to my mind after finals is: they should kick out the person responsible for marketing.

Does anyone ever seen releasing final version just two days after RC? Being honest: in reality it is less than one day because the rumour about RC has to spread out.

Opera has a lot of features that nobody knows. They focus on adding features but rarely manage to finish them completely.

Example 1:
AFAIR Opera offered filtering addresses via urlfilter.ini file. Later it evolve to RMB option called "Block content" BUT usability of it is questionable. Only real geeks know that this one exist. Is it so hard to give visible toolbar button for it by default? This way users could learn about pretty quick.

Example 2:
Synchronisation tool could be killer feature but they managed to break this one too. There is no possibility to decide which way your bookmarks should go.


For Opera to send your stuff to the server, it goes through all your bookmarks and speed dials, puts them in a custom XML format, and sends it through a secure (https) connection to the server. The server will then store the items in its database. When another Opera with your login name comes by, Opera does the same as before, but the server will also look through what it already has to see whether something is different between the database and the new data. If there is something on the server which was not in the data Opera sent, it will return these items to Opera. Opera will then merge this with its own bookmarks.

When you add, modify, or delete a bookmark, Opera will store this status. Every so often Opera will connect to the server and repeat the synchronization process, this time sending only the changes to the server. Again, if the server has something new for Opera, Opera will get this back.
-Opera Dev Blog
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There is no possibility to clear up server stored bookmarks. There is no way to decide that your desktop's order is more important.
I had took a look on this feature more than half year ago. Because of crashes I have downgraded Opera to stable version. Now there is 9.5 "final", so I've decided to try out sync once again BUT it sucks.
During the months of waiting for 9.5 I've managed to categorise all of my links, (make a groups, proper tags, shortcuts) and I've changed my Speed Dial couple times. Thanks to sync tool I can end up with total mess. My desktop PC is always gaining total mess from server and server retrieves additionally duplication of existing bookmarks (but with categories). My Speed Dial is always overwritten and there is no way to prevent that (except copy/paste backup). None of sync checkoxes works properly...

Unfortunately:
Safari doesn't have real extensibility.
Firefox is very slow on my machine after adding dozen of plugins (oops: extensions) to have similar set of features as Opera. Even "Paste and send" requires additional module!
IE - not even worth a comment.
The rest are front-ends for IE (Maxthon) or Gecko (KMeleon) and they inherit pros and cons of others.

Sadly: there is no browser for Windows OS which could satisfy all of my needs (lot of complete solutions and small requirements). I think anyone has not to decide "on what side I have to be" but rather "for whom should I complain" ;)

Dormouse:
I love this quote from theregister's review - Opera has been racing to release the latest version of its desktop browser. No guesses why. For the first time since 2003, Mozilla's FireFox looks like a modern browser, and not a skinnable memory heap testing tool.

dantheman:
I agree with felixproductions, sync tool needs some improvement.
It's been a few times now that i've re-installed Opera browser and every time i get a bunch of duplicates that should not be there as i had deleted them.

The notes sync seems to be holding good though.

9.5's new theme is too dark.
They should have left the default theme in, at least as an option.

The revamped panel has problems of its' own that are still yet to be resolved.
Two "x" to close it and only one works.
The panel icons are no longer in "justified" position so they look bulky and ackward (especially the new theme!).   :o

Lashiec:
Where was this hint made? I would be very interested to see what opera 10 has in store if there is any sort of extension capability being planned.
-Josh (June 13, 2008, 03:47 AM)
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In this interview:

6) Would you consider including a general extension interface? While it is possible to add custom JavaScript to Opera, many users would appreciate a more open interface.

It's something that we have evaluated many times. We'll probably do something in the future. Our focus has been more on widgets – making applications that run outside the browser and are able to build on web technology. On the extensions side, traditionally our focus has been 'let's try to build as much into the browser as possible so people have a choice'. So we do it in a way that's tightly integrated and works out of the box. We've done so much – you mention extensions through user JavaScript, we've done it through CSS and we continue to find new ways to do it. It's clear that Firefox has a more extensible way of doing that. It will not be soon but we may provide some easier ways in the future to add more functionality to Opera.

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I love this quote from theregister's review - Opera has been racing to release the latest version of its desktop browser. No guesses why. For the first time since 2003, Mozilla's FireFox looks like a modern browser, and not a skinnable memory heap testing tool.
-Dormouse (June 13, 2008, 05:06 AM)
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Hehehe, The Register is cheeky as always, but the review is well balanced and has some good points.

Well, I finally installed this morning, and although I'm still playing with it, the improvements shine through, from the bigger ones (the new address bar is fantastic), to the small changes here and there, including those ones that are not documented in the changelog. Sites that worked before, but in a clunky way, has improved, particularly Yahoo Mail!, which is much more compatible with before. Minor issues here and there in most pages have been corrected, and AJAX sites work significantly faster than with 9.2x. I found difficult to believe those speed reports, but wow, sometimes it feel like I upgraded my connection. I'm liking the new theme, which is more compact than the old one and stacks perfectly with the rest of the Windows interface, even playing with my visual style.

Not all is nice, though. With certain AJAX sites, like Yahoo Mail! or Google Notebook (which still is unusable, though I don't know who is the one to blame), the most advanced features like drag and drop, or certain buttons, do not work, or it does in a very clunky way. For example, I deleted a few mails by drag and dropping them to the recycle bin, and in the process, all the text sitting in the path was selected, and the mails were not deleted. No good, because things like that did not happen in Opera 9.27, and Yahoo! Mail works so nice right now, it would be a bit sad to check the mail in Firefox only because of this. Also, I tested the improved plugins performance, and while it's clearly felt, Secunia Software Inspector makes Opera crash hard (didn't happen before as well), with a Visual C++ runtime exception. Of course, we're talking about Java, so who knows... I'll have to try with Sun demos. QuickTime trailers in Apple pages, and music and videos in the Wikipedia (through VLC plugin) work nice, though.

I hope that the minor issues get resolved soon, and as for the bigger ones... well, either Opera needs more work, or certain people need to pay attention to the rest of the browsers.

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