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Author Topic: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View  (Read 6596 times)

herojoker

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Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« on: June 09, 2008, 06:28:01 PM »
Perhaps we could do a list of services that do well in the html view mode of FARR. Preferably services with no or almost no visible ads and a slick layout. No Google ads would be nice too because I don't want them to collect so much data about me...
Mostly PDA/Mobile Phone versions are fine.

Some categories are:
Weather/Date/Time
Translation/Definition/Thesaurus/Encyclopedia
News/Stocks/etc.
Search engines
Maps
Images/Videos
Games

I noticed that together with htmlviewurl the yubnub service is now quite interesting...

Of course embedded versions are always much better. If more powerful plugin developers were here, a group could be founded which port valuable web services to FARR.
E.g. response pages of translation services could be parsed such that only a nice table is shown (no input field, no ads etc.).
« Last Edit: June 09, 2008, 06:40:31 PM by herojoker »

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Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 08:09:40 PM »
perhaps what we need is a kind of greasemonkey-type scripting system plugin for rewriting pages to make the output very compact.

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Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 09:28:50 PM »
perhaps what we need is a kind of greasemonkey-type scripting system plugin for rewriting pages to make the output very compact.

Great idea as mentioned in this previous thread http://www.donationc....msg115016#msg115016 8)

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... it would be great if while you are maintaining a list of websites url regex patterns you could also specify an action/file/script to be launched to process the page before displaying it. This way you could strip out only the html you were interested in or add/change/format pages, greasemonkey style

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Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 07:08:06 AM »
Good idea herojoker!  :Thmbsup: I was about to post a similar thread but now I'll stick to this.

Note that many webpages have special versions for mobile devices, made for a smaller screen and with less clutter. The ones I've tried work great in FARR.

To keep it functional, I'll stick to this four line format:

igo URL
(custom alias)
description of the page
(screencap)

...where line 2 and 4 is optional


igo http://exacttimenow.com/
1000>>>time>->time | htmlviewurl http://exacttimenow.com/ /ICON=icons\farr\core-internet_www.ico>+>^time$
large clock with exact time/date
time.png

igo m.rememberthemilk.com
online todo list, mobile version
milk.png

igo http://www.google.co....net/boingboing/iBag
read any feed via google reader: http://www.google.co...m/view/feed/XXXXXXXX where XXXXXXXX is the feed URL.
bb.png

update:
igo http://www.mailinato...sp?b=somerandomemail
1000>>>mailinator>->Internal Surf to Mailinator $$1 | htmlviewurl http://www.mailinato...dget/mailin8r.jsp?b=$$1>+>^(?:maili|mailin|mailina|mailinat|mailinato|mailinator) (.*)
check disposable email (note: to use mailinator with some privacy, pick a long, obscure adress and use its alternative inbox name when you sign up for forums etc)
maili.png

igo http://embed.mibbit....nel=%23donationcoder
1000>>>irc>->Internal Surf to mibbit efnet #donationcoder | htmlviewurl http://embed.mibbit....nationcoder>+>^irc$
use #donationcoder IRC channel at efnet via the mibbit.com widget
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« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 08:34:04 AM by Nod5 »

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Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008, 09:58:00 AM »
Neither plurk nor twitter's mobile versions will work as Internet explorer doesn't know how to use the mime type "application/xhtml xml " ?!?!. Ungh.

Anyway, Evernote is great, also using RTM (previously mentioned).
Evernote | htmlviewurl http://preview.evernote.com/m/
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I've made the necessary alias setup for chacha.com but it's not working atm, chacha appears to be having a problem with its mobile bit.
ChaCha | htmlviewurl https://chacha.com/u/$$1

Mobile versions of plurk and twitter are below, in case anyone can figure out how to make IE not choke. I . . . don't know my way around IE very well.
Plurk | htmlviewurl http://plurk.com/m
Twitter | htmlviewurl http://m.twitter.com

--and just for kicks chat | http://theprawn.com/...From%20DonationCoder
« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 10:03:33 AM by allen »

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Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2008, 10:01:06 AM »
I think one other thing that could be useful for viewing web pages is ability to define size of the Farr window when a web page is called via alias or similar predefined patter. So that one can define 800*600,1024*768, 400*200 etc. I personally hate autosizing :)


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Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2008, 10:39:26 AM »
very cool stuff!!!
nod5 that time one is a great one for demoing the new feature, very cool.

we need to make an alias pack, complete with icons, for all of these htmlview things.

by the way using the showhtml command it should be possible to create aliases that use their own self-containted html and javascript to do some of this stuff and not even need a connection to the web.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 10:41:07 AM by mouser »

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Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2008, 11:50:48 AM »
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very cool stuff!!!
nod5 that time one is a great one for demoing the new feature, very cool.

@Nod5, great stuff  :Thmbsup:

@mouser, i told you that many many uses would come from aliases (as opposed to plugins)  :P
hence, the need to polish the core functions

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Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2008, 01:50:11 PM »
probably this one would be useful too,

http://whatismyip.com/


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Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2008, 05:54:39 PM »
we need to make an alias pack, complete with icons, for all of these htmlview things.
I'll try to make some when I have more time. What is the latest guideline for the format? (I think I've asked that before but I didn't find that thread now. It would be good if that was made a sticky in the FARR forum part)

When an alias uses htmlview to display non-local pages then an option to use the related website's favicon would make sense (maybe FARR could download a copy of the favicon the very first time the alias runs?)

re: greasemonkey-ish functionality: maybe in the form of a regexp field in the alias setup window where we can specify what in the html to filter out (or alternatively "filter in") before it is displayed?

kartal: I can see the point of custom FARR window resizing and I bet mouser will implement some support for that. But I'm also unsure how useful the very large sizes would be. For large size pages a regular browser is better. FARR can really excel as a browser complement for small pages that load fast, have a specific focus and are used briefly but repeatedly. Like checking the time, the tv schedule, some RSS feed, a weather report, a todo list and so on. Its the same niche that I think projects like Prism have tried to fill.

Also, good idea with ip checking! Here is an even simpler page:

igo http://checkip.dyndns.org/
1000>>>ip>->Internal Surf to display WAN ip | htmlviewurl http://checkip.dyndns.org/>+>^ip$
display your WAN ip
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« Last Edit: June 11, 2008, 02:32:04 PM by Nod5 »