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J-Mac:
I bought it too, Curt (is anyone surprised  :-[). I've been struggling with ConceptDraw, but EDraw is much simpler, and yet seems more powerful. Anyway, am happily flow-charting my PhD at the moment.
-Darwin (July 08, 2008, 07:38 AM)
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Now, me?  I had been looking time and time again at ConceptDraw, but it has grown even more expensive than it was when I first looked at it, and it never did show up on GAOTD nor Bits duJor again since you got your copy.  Then I happened to see the eDraw Max deal at Bits the other day - when I posted this here, and pruchased it after checking their web site out again.

And now I hear that you are "struggling" with ConceptDraw?  A true blessing in disguise that I saw the eDraw deal when I did!

BTW, the first thing I tried with it as a test drawing didn't go that well.  I tried a quick layout of my home office.  I laready have that with 3D Home Architect and Gliffy,com, so I always try a new application that does room layouts to compare and see if it is easier and/or quicker and has better results.  Nope - eDraw is obviously better for pure flowcharting than the other "features"!  Very tough to do a decent floor plan with it, IMO.

But all in all it is pretty good with flow charts!

Jim

Curt:
- you are right, Jim, there is quite a distance between eDraw home planning and 3D HA, but I also think they are two different types of programs. 3D HA must be called a specialist on this subject, I think.

I didn't remember about Gliffy.com - maybe my eyes long ago noticed the word "online", which usually turns me off. Do you know if the free-version-user really gains access to all the same features as the premium-version-user, except of course for the listed differences in quantity / uploads / ads?? I think the advert-free alternative is dreadful expensive: $5 per month!! But the program really looks capable.

Curt:
I used to have a couple of programs from Odessa's ConceptDraw, from Giveawayoftheday, but I never really learned how to use them to my liking, so in the end I removed both of them. Easy comes, easy goes. Odessa ConceptDraw Office includes and unifies all their three ConceptDraw versions, PRO (€199), Mindmap (€169), and Project (€169). Their asking price for Office for a single user is a bargain... €415 ($650)... plus:

Add maintenance to my purchase:

for 1 year period  €85
for 2 years period  €150

all the minor and major updates, released during your maintenance period;
priority technical support form;
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I know I can stay away!

J-Mac:
- you are right, Jim, there is quite a distance between eDraw home planning and 3D HA, but I also think they are two different types of programs. 3D HA must be called a specialist on this subject, I think.

I didn't remember about Gliffy.com - maybe my eyes long ago noticed the word "online", which usually turns me off. Do you know if the free-version-user really gains access to all the same features as the premium-version-user, except of course for the listed differences in quantity / uploads / ads?? I think the advert-free alternative is dreadful expensive: $5 per month!! But the program really looks capable.
-Curt (July 08, 2008, 07:42 PM)
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Gliffy is a lot better than a good many regular licensed applications that you run from your computer.  Some features I have requested are on their tracking log but it looks like the turn around time for that might be a couple years. Literally.

It has a few things missing that I find annoying, but they are not really major.

Got news for you - I have tried three charts with eDraw Max so far and guess what - I'm redoing them on Gliffy.

I think maybe I was too hasty in promoting eDraw here.....

Jim

gwynevans:
One that I've just come across is FlowBreeze http://www.breezetree.com/flowcharting-software/, which is a a Microsoft® Excel® add-in that automates the flowcharting process by converting your text into flowcharts.

Sounds odd, but I'd say that it's definately worth a look....

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