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Seriously, what is MicroEd good for?

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CodeTRUCKER:
Sounds like a keystroke toggle or button would be a nice addition.  Default off/on per user requirement, but a toggle-the-function-when-needed button would solve the issue.  Given the advantage of a free caret in writing tables, this would make the whole usefulness of MicroEd rise to the top if one didn't have to dredge through the preferences/options to turn it off/on, at least for me.   Would this make it more attractive to you?

-CodeTRUCKER (June 18, 2008, 01:31 AM)
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Sounds good to me.  But there's already a quick toggle on the bottom of the message window where you can select between microed and regular windows (and html I think).  I just use the regular plain windows setting.  Without the free caret, what's so great about microed?  Wouldn't it be the same as the plain windows setting?
-superboyac (June 18, 2008, 10:33 AM)
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I am afraid that I don't understand what it is you are saying?  When I use the MicroEd setting I am able to accomplish things that are majorly laborious (IMO) in Plain Text mode.  Unless I am missing something, MicroEd does what the other settings can't.  By way of expressing my thoughts, here is an experiment...
Try attempting to create a table in Plain Text or better yet try an artistic hand at creating an ASCII picture in Plain Text mode.   This would be a significant undertaking outside of MicroEd, unless maybe there is a free-caret function in plain 'ol Windows I have never been aware of?

Apparently someone smarter than me will have to attempt to expound on whatever other virtues MicroEd holds outside of my own puny experience.   Good luck!

Regardless what the outcome of this thread  will be, I am very grateful that you posted as I was unaware of the short-cut that already exists.  This is a real boon to my productivity.  :Thmbsup:

superboyac:
I am afraid that I don't understand what it is you are saying?  When I use the MicroEd setting I am able to accomplish things that are majorly laborious (IMO) in Plain Text mode.  Unless I am missing something, MicroEd does what the other settings can't.  By way of expressing my thoughts, here is an experiment...
Try attempting to create a table in Plain Text or better yet try an artistic hand at creating an ASCII picture in Plain Text mode.   This would be a significant undertaking outside of MicroEd, unless maybe there is a free-caret function in plain 'ol Windows I have never been aware of?

Apparently someone smarter than me will have to attempt to expound on whatever other virtues MicroEd holds outside of my own puny experience.   Good luck!

Regardless what the outcome of this thread  will be, I am very grateful that you posted as I was unaware of the short-cut that already exists.  This is a real boon to my productivity.  :Thmbsup:
-CodeTRUCKER (June 18, 2008, 10:26 PM)
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Well, that's just it.  How many times have I needed to create a table or ASCII art in email?  I would say zero times since 2007.  I don't know how you use your email, but if you're doing a lot of tables and ascii art in emails, then I can see how Microed is very useful for you.  But I would have to assume 90% of email users are in my camp.  And if you don't need the free caret cursor for thsoe very specific functions, then the free caret is actually a bit of a nuisance. 

rjbull:
I just wish TB! would let you define your own text editor  :(  I was a "point" on Fidonet for ten years, using the mighty GoldED, and while GoldED had a rudimentary text editor built in, for normal messages I preferred to use my favourite text editor VDE under it.  I fail to see why Windows programs can't do the same   >:(

f0dder:
I just wish TB! would let you define your own text editor  :(  I was a "point" on Fidonet for ten years, using the mighty GoldED, and while GoldED had a rudimentary text editor built in, for normal messages I preferred to use my favourite text editor VDE under it.  I fail to see why Windows programs can't do the same   >:(
-rjbull (June 19, 2008, 03:32 AM)
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Some do (like the "It's All Text!" extension for FireFox), but it usually involves temporary files and is somewhat messy. Instead, most applications simply adopt the existing windows editor interface & shortcut keys, and it works well enough for most people - learn one, rule all.

superboyac:
A text editor is one thing, and a email text editor is another.  Sure, they can be the same, but they don't have to be.

A lot of people (here, especially) will use text editors for a variety of tasks and actually prefer them to the alternatives, whether it is notepad or MS Word.  That's we have a DC review of text editors here.

But this is not the same as using the text editor for an email program.  In email, 99% of the time, there isn't anything really happening besides regular words and sentences.  No programming, no tables, no ascii art.  Yeah, you can do this stuff also, but like I said, 99% of the people don't.  Maybe some rtf formatting is used once in a while.  So, we don't need a full featured text editor for email.  Especially if it slows us down.

You just go into an email message, type in a few lines, and send it off.  You want this done as quickly and efficiently as possible.  The reason why MicroEd is inefficient for me is because you have to always be very precise about where you click the mouse (because of the free caret).  It's too much thinking.  Sometimes you click at the beginning of the line and you wonder, "Am I really at the beginning of the line?"  THen you press "Home" just to make sure.  If the free caret wasn't there, you know for sure that the cursor will be at the beginning of the blank line because it can't be anywhere else.

My suggestion for MicroEd--take out the free caret or make it a toggle option.  But then I come back to my original question, without the free caret, what's the big deal about MicroEd?

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