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What is appropriate content for DonationCoder?
CodeTRUCKER:
Codetrucker,
just to reiterate, I do appreciate people having different sensibilities but I honestly don't get how a grown man can be so sensitive. It's three days past the new year and here's what I've seen in the news:
A man being assaulted (and subsequently beaten to death)
A school kid who hung himself coz he wanted to "prove his teacher wrong"
Two women nearly raped in public coz they ventured to the wrong place at the wrong time
There's so much craziness going around and here you are, a grown man appealing for kindness coz somebody made a post linking to a porn site and getting deeply offended coz another guy misdirected you with a hyperlink! How does someone like you survive in the real world? DC is one of the cleanest places I know... I've seen more nastiness in this thread than I've seen on the entire board in the past few months. I think the message is loud and clear and the minority has to learn to respect the majority. You can put up a poll if you have any doubts about which is which but I suspect you already know the answer.
As for the term "moral policing", it's a bit of a catch phrase in the city where I live, the media uses it all the time with reference to a narrow-minded right-wing party, a bunch of ass-clowns who try and do innovative things to get some attention, like vandalize movie theatres if they're playing something that "offends their sentiments" & try and ban Valentine's Day coz it brings about "unhealthy feelings" (laugh it up!) among youngsters.
-nosh (January 03, 2008, 10:42 PM)
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In regard to the Renegade link, you're the third one ( if I can count) that sees nothing wrong with it. This is outside of my sphere. It is impossible for me to look at it that way. As you have stated, the masses have spoken. I am respectful of this.
In reference to the news items, I am in complete concert with you. They are horrible. The difference is that is not what is here at DC. It is precisely the fact that there is something of an oasis here. The only problem is I get Montezuma's Revenge with ever greater frequency. This is not to say that the water is bad, but my system is not used to it and after a year drinking in (solid lurking) that water my system cannot assimilate it. It is not bad. It is incompatible to my system. (Ah! I wish I would have used this analogy rather than the smoker one.)
In reference to "how a grown man ..." Yes, I am a grown man, mere months from 50, but to answer your question, I have chosen to not give myself to the hardness that pervades so many others later years. I have chosen to never give up hope. Today I own my own profitable and paid for Volvo tractor and am self-employed. I have been driving off and on for over 20 years. Yet I have never hardened myself to the realities associated with truck driving. I have never declined an invitation to join another trucker for a meal or conversation as I always held hope I was not a singular entity. There were times when I found kindred spirits but the vast majority were incompatible. In order to bring this post to resolution, let me state I have my reasons for why I have chosen my particular road. Since that is deeply personal and a window to my very essence, I will only share it in PM conversation as I do not wish to foist on anyone.
tranglos:
Herein lies the problem, what I feel as pain you find humorous. This will never be resolved. What can be resolved is if people become more important than rights, but it appears my attempts at planting are not finding fertile soil.
-CodeTRUCKER (January 03, 2008, 10:28 PM)
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CodeTRUCKER, you voiced a concern and technical solutions have been proposed. True, technology will never be fully effective, or at least not effective and efficient at the same time, as you yourself realized when it became too hard to keep maintaining your Proxomitron filters. But this is what can be done.
What also can be done is request that posters refrain from racy topics, which is happening all the time at DC - not the requesting, mind you, but the refraining! As others have noted, DC is one of the most "clean", most corteous discussion forums of its size and popularity.
What else would you like to happen, please?
I never advocate for the minority to submit to the wishes of the majority (but this itself is a highly political topic for an entirely different forum!) However, and please set me right if I misunderstand your intentions, you seem to be asking everyone to apply the lowest common denominator when deciding about what might possibly be offensive. Because it's not only about swearwords, is it? It's also about content that may well be relevant to the site. The YouPorn post might well have been an article in an IT magazine, after all. It's a "people meet technology" issue - part computing, part sociology. It seems to me you are asking adults to refrain from discussing certain relevant topics. So what would you like to be done?
Stoic Joker:
Man that got quiet fast... LOL
I think that if app103's HTML tag was tied to tranglos's (click to view) button, with a strong public recommendation that anything not qualifying as "Polite Conversation" be labeled as such ... That the folks here could easily Self Police their way to a reasonable resolution.
Mods could also be allowed to insert the tag for any borderline stuff without having to resort to any feather ruffleing draconian post deletion.
CodeTRUCKER:
Um... Wow!
CodeTRUCKER while the Morality Police dialog was a truly artful dodge ... it still leaves you firmly planted on the moral high-ground.
-Stoic Joker (January 03, 2008, 10:18 PM)
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I'm not sure what you mean by an "artful dodge?" I am dodging nothing. As far as your estimation that I am on the "high ground," that has always been my purpose. I have no interest in mediocrity and I do all I can to encourage as many as I can up the slope. If you were suggesting I think I am better than anyone else, then you are wrong, but I will concede that my goals are lofty and virtuous.
Darwin:
I like the tagging idea :Thmbsup: I'd like to see it implemented on the end-user side - ie if one is happy to keep DC as it has been they need do nothing more than be responsible for tagging their own posts, if necessary, but otherwise will see everything posted on DC. At the other end of the spectrum, those who wish to filter out profanities or vulgarisms may apply the tags as necessary. Seems win-win to me, as long as everyone cooperates. One isse that arises from this is how to tag posts and what to tag (or what content is deserving of a tag). I think we should trial tagging with minimal guidelines (other than "use your common sense" or "would I want my mother to read this?") and see how we get on before getting into maintained word, phrase and topic lists and user-guides.
Thank you CodeTrucker for raising this issue. I can only imagine how difficult it was. My re-reading of this thread is that people are generally receptive to the idea of accommodating differing viewpoints on what is and what is not acceptable and to working toward a resolution. With luck more ideas will be put forward in the coming days and a solution everyone can work with will be worked out. It really would be a shame to lose members and I think that offering people options about what content they will, and will not be able, to see is the best solution.
Once again the thread has moved on as I have typed...
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