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Question: Should mouser allow his users to rename his products to something more meaningful?
Yes - 8 (30.8%)
No - 18 (69.2%)
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Author Topic: Mouser - a plea from your users!  (Read 16524 times)
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« on: November 09, 2007, 04:43:49 PM »

After recent postings regarding the names of some of the products released by mouser, I have come to the conclusion that some of these products desperately need a renaming.

What do you think? Should mouser allow his users to pick the names of the products? I mean, come on, what type of name is "Clipboard Help+Spell" or "Find and Run Robot"? What is this robot spoken of in the name of FARR? And what is the deal with CH+S? Is that a product title or a math problem?

Lets make a stand! Let the users pick!
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2007, 04:49:01 PM »

It's up to Mouser - if he wants help he can ask  embarassed
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2007, 04:50:24 PM »

i think it's too late to rename these.  huh

however, i agree that all future program names should be first vetted here or better yet, put to a vote.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2007, 04:51:56 PM »

Just leave the math portion out of future names, or the robot keyword ;-) When I see the full name of FARR spelled out, I expect some robot to come and do power searching of my computer for me with some high tech gadgetry.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2007, 04:54:37 PM »

I dunno.  The names are descriptive of what they do.  And it's not like there's any marketing going on that requires brand-recognition or product awareness.

Can you elaborate more on your thoughts?  I'm not sure I see the problem.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 05:14:49 PM »

Oh the problem is incredibly real.
It was a terrible mistake to use the word "and" in a program name.
It's not clear whether its "Find And Run" or "Find+Run" or "Find&Run" etc.  Just stupid.  Not only that but i did it to 3 of my programs ("Clipboard Help+Spell", "Drag and Drop Robot").  And my lack of consistency does not help matters.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2007, 05:23:56 PM »

And the source of the problem reveals itself! Mouser is a great software developer, but like some, he lacks the capability to select an adequate name for his product. Consistency among names, unneeded descriptive words, and sheer weirdness plaque some of these product line names.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2007, 06:51:05 PM »

You should call it Android or Cyborg instead of Robot, sounds so much sexier smiley
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2007, 07:32:41 PM »

"Mechanical man" would be even better

Find and Run Mechanical Man
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2007, 12:16:56 AM »

Instead, how about: "Find Or Run Robot"

Actually, I kind of thought the ACRONYMS were the names for each product.  FARR, for instance, sounds kinda cool.  Institutionally military with a hint of the occult.

"The Land Squid has broken loose!  Grab your FARRs and we'll meet at the containment zone!"

I don't have a personal relationship with CH+S, but that one kind of sounds like a German megaconglomerate (CH+S, AG) that specializes in making precision grommets for Mercedes.

And so on.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2007, 12:46:07 AM »

"Mechanical man" would be even better

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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2007, 02:38:22 AM »

The trick is to look outside the English language, or toward literature. For example, I'd rename FARR 'Odyssey.' But I'm sure some jackass has trademarked the name.

Yep, I looked it up and some jerk named "Homer" claims it. Keeps renewing it, too.  tongue
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2007, 05:00:47 AM »

I agree as long as its not another web 2.0 styled title pulled from some exotic language that no way describes the product or service.

Egs. joomla, jaxtr, jajah, yedda, renkoo, ubuntu and so on. See longer list here : http://www.techcrunch.com/company-index/

Some of those companies have done well, but I think its harder for users to naturally associate the weird product name with what it actually does. Unless a lot of marketing to drives it across.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2007, 10:35:18 AM »

Personally, I like the whole 'robot' thing. It has become a sort of 'mousermark'.  Grin

When I think of mouser's software, I think of a whole team of little robots designed to make your life easier. The Jetsons era for your pc.  cheesy

He could start code naming new projects after famous robots until he has a real name for them.

I am waiting for 'Recipe Robot' (code named 'Rosie')
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2007, 10:54:20 AM »

For some reason, I always think of swarms of Nanobots... I really don't pay much attention to the names of the various apps that I use - I'm more focused on the functionality! Just me though... I'm a bit of a GUI agnostic, as well...
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2007, 11:12:19 AM »

Well its better than Super Flexible File Synchroniser, i forget the name even though i use the progrma every day.
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2007, 11:21:08 AM »

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"Find And Run Robot" "Clipboard Help+Spell", "Drag and Drop Robot"

me,
i like the robot theme too
of the three there CH+S is the only one I'd change -
who want to sound...

like a German megaconglomerate (CH+S, AG) that specializes in making precision grommets for Mercedes.

(unless of course you actually make...)
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2007, 12:00:39 PM »

Some of those companies have done well, but I think its harder for users to naturally associate the weird product name with what it actually does. Unless a lot of marketing to drives it across.

Yep.  You've touched on a pet peeve of mine: cute product names that by themselves mean nothing.  I would probably have never found Find and Run Robot had it been called  "Yalooby".

It's strictly a personal thing, but I'd be happier if mouser's products ended up with descriptive names, rather than something from a random word generator.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2007, 12:02:16 PM »

like a German megaconglomerate (CH+S, AG) that specializes in making precision grommets for Mercedes.

(unless of course you actually make...)

My apologies to all the legitimate manufacturers of precision grommets.  I did not mean to cause any offense.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2007, 12:20:38 PM »

When it comes to names, though, with so many words trademarked and so many concepts saturated, it is a challenge.

I have had to come up time and time again for a name for a company/software/website/product and it gets harder and harder.

You either go descriptive (not easily trademarkeable), invented (all the web2.0 names, they just needed a domain name pronounceable and not taken) (so instead of farr we'd have 'fzoolia'), combine 2-3 words together ('launchology'), or use a color (about every creative agency in the uk is purple this, yellow that...)

It's hard to be original nowadays
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2007, 03:12:45 PM »

I think that the problems the DCUpdater had with Vista should have led to a rename, like the fun play-on-words AppDater (not a tool to get dates with/for App103!) instead of the "Uppdater" which looks like it could be a typo.

DonationCoder Application Updater, the DC AppDater.

That's the only piece of software I have issues with the name, but only because I'm a stickler for spelling and grammar. (But of course I make spelling/grammar mistakes too!)

I think perhaps a better idea would be for mouser to have the final decision in naming his software, but that he be more open to suggestions from the community.

How would you like to create something and then have a bunch of idiots come up with a stupid name for it? Individuals are smart, masses are stupid.
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2007, 04:13:38 PM »

Whatever is decided, a common theme might be good.  Like MouseRun or MouseClip.

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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2007, 04:29:53 PM »

MouseRun or MouseClip

I like that. But MouseClip and MouseRun already exist. toobad.
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2007, 06:48:50 PM »

MouseRun or MouseClip

I like that. But MouseClip and MouseRun already exist. toobad.

But the *idea* is sound.  Pick a theme and name all the apps accordingy.  RobotRun, RobotClip, MouserRun, MouserClip... it would build a unified "brand" where folks might immediately recognize new offerings that are named Robot* as quality ware from a known quantity.

Beats delving into Norse mythology or selecting names from a random generator...
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2007, 08:23:26 PM »

Yes, the idea is sound, I agree!
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