tomos: well I'd prefer it if nudone was streaking ironically...
fear of hurting people’s feeling shouldn’t stop one from expressing (and mostly in a funny and not that serious way, I believe) what one doesn’t like about macs or mac fanfoys.
Absolutely fine, fanboys deserve to get teased. But this is deeper than that. Playing with stereotypes is fun, really believing in them isn't.
nontroppo, Would’ve you reacted the same id you were not using a mac? Or do you just feel this waybecause… you identify with your… mac… just kidding.
I've used PCs since MSDOS (an Amiga before that), riding along through Windows 3.11 till XP. I still use XP everyday in VMWare Fusion. I *am* a Windows user, it is where most of my expertise lies. I still know my way through the dark corridors of the registry, and fix Windows machines regularly. I get annoyed when user X insults user Y based on fallacies and ignorance, whatever X or Y may be. I'm a long standing Opera user (migrating from Netscape via Firebird), and stupid browser fans annoy me whatever their affiliation (indeed, I cringe more when it is an Opera user responsible for such idiocy, but they don't speak for anyone other than themselves, part of what is reflected in the original article this thread is about).
My Girlfriend boughy a mac. I still talk to her. But I refuse to talk to her mac. (I’ actually jealous because she treats her much better than me )
Thanks for clarifying that for me, nontroppo. I don't feel your passion about this but concede your point. I view the thread in the vein that Armando outlines above andI sincerely hope that you're not arguing that all "five zillion my tribe is better than yours threads" are Windows-centric (in my opinion, both sides give as good as they get) and that your issue is with the "classic Mac vs. PC mindset as depicted in the TV commercials", as Ralf suggests.
Zealots on all sides get my ire. Those mac vs. pc adverts are pretty stupid, but they are marketing (i.e. commercially driven). What ruffles me is real flesh-n-bone people deciding all of the other tribe are X or Y; again whether they are Mac, PC, siberian hamsters, 4x4 owners.
Not all users are zealots but there is a much higher proportion in the Mac camp than Windows, and Linux zealots can be pretty rabid too (try reading any thread on ZDNET, on any topic and I guarantee that before the 10th post someone will say UBUNTU will solve all your problems).
Could you give me precise values, both in absolute numbers and relative percentages please?
Because otherwise I'd be tempted to just say it is no more than one tribal opinion amid a sea of other tribal opinions.
I'm not so much prejudiced when it comes to Mac users but more genuinely confused why anyone would pay twice as much for a machine that is half the spec, can't be easily upgraded, has little user base and doesn't have an extensive catalogue of software. I can only assume it is a victory of style over common sense. If they don't want to use Windows I don't really understand why they don't go for Linux - which at least has the virtues of being free, flexibilty and it runs on cheap hardware. MacOS is pretty much Linux (OK BSD) anyway!
Because you don't seem to understand about the platform? You have made sweeping generalisations about there only being two types of Mac markets, describing them as ignorant (home users) or arrogant (professionals), then a reductive cost-benefit that encapsulates little of anything substantial. It *does* make sense to lots of people who are neither ignorant or arrogant. Increasing numbers of my department are switching over to Apple hardware because it is more cost efficient to the University (contracts with Dell only other option), and OS X really is an elegant and powerful OS that is more than a repackaged Ubuntu. If it doesn't suit you personally, thats fine, but your reductio ad absurdum
generalisation is just that, absurd.
By the way, my Macbook is the best Laptop I've owned (IBM Thinkpad, Dell, and Acer being the previous competition), and it isn't because I'm some middle-class lobotomised zombie with heavy pockets...