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5876  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: People just don't understand... on: September 04, 2011, 11:25:33 AM
Personally, I think Steve Jobs may be in a lot more serious a medical condition than they're letting on.

Because some of that essay smacks of pre-eulogizationCool

From the 40hz Dictionary:

Pre-eulogization: (vt) The act of writing a eulogy in advance of a controversial person's immanent demise,; done with the intention of furnishing an apology or positive spin on said person's behavior before the journalists and biographers have a field day showing just how much of a dyed-in-the-wool bastard said person truly was.

Either way, I genuinely do wish him all the best with regards to his illness. Because as much as some of his actions have annoyed me over the years, I still can't find any justification in wishing him pain or suffering.

5877  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anyone else using Ramdisk in Windows 7? on: September 04, 2011, 11:09:29 AM
I guess having the perfect swap setup is quickly approaching the snake oil status, pretty much like all the optimization tricks that no longer bring quantifiable benefits today.

Well said! And likely very true too. Thmbsup

5878  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Can anyone tell me how to lift my open-source project off the ground? on: September 04, 2011, 11:07:19 AM
First, welcome to DonationCoder. Glad you came by. smiley

Second, there's a very good chance you might get the ball rolling here. Drop mouser a personal message and introduce yourself when you get a chance.
5879  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Linux kernel.org hacked on: September 04, 2011, 11:00:56 AM
Nope. They want nothing to do with us nixers.

Yet it's amazing the amount of open source supporters who run a Mac, though sometimes out of spite tongue

I thought it was more out of pity they did that...

Poor little Mach kernal being held captive by Apple like that. What did it ever do to them? Grin

5880  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Building a home server. Please help, DC! on: September 04, 2011, 07:31:28 AM
I was just thinking...

Since this will be a personal server with most likely only a few people accessing it at any given time, a single 1GB network link on the LAN side should be sufficient for anything being streamed to the users. That's more bandwidth per user than most people get already - and some have multiple family members streaming (via wireless no less!) simultaneously.

Most playback software is aware of this, so its gotten very good at buffering and caching to avoid any stutters or freezes.

If there are problems after that, then it becomes a QoS issue - and that's a whole 'nother tweak&tune discussion we'll leave for another day.

But if the actual scenario is one (or three) people mostly pulling from the server (even HD) I doubt you'll ever see a problem there.

If it does, I'd first try "multihoming" the server by enabling a second NIC LAN port, and point some users to that as their IP gateway address. Put yourself on your own port and let everybody else share the second. Because you paid for the damn thing so "screw them" right? (kidding...just kidding...)

On the WAN side, even a 100Mb port is usually sufficient - unless some ISP is finally allowing faster backbone connections for it's customers.  Because most ISPs throttle or lock your link throughput somewhere in a range any 100Mb NIC can easily handle. If you actually can benefit from having 1Gb on the WAN side then use a 1Gb NIC for that too. No big deal.

So if you're letting your server handle most of the heavy-lifting, and basically only using your LAN side to pull files down, a single (or dual) switched 1Gb network on the LAN side should be plenty.

If you take a look at many preconfigured servers, you'll see one 100Mb and two 1Gb NIC ports built in.

Now you know why.  smiley
5881  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Goodnight Irene on: September 03, 2011, 05:15:30 PM
We have not experienced much in the way of flooding where I live.

We do not have a large number of trees or wires down.

Our streets are not in a rural area. We are in the center of suburbia.

Our utility services 22,194 customers in my town.

There are currently still 1134 customers without power in my town as of 5:55pm September 3rd.

All the streets adjacent to mine have had power since Tuesday.

Our street has been completely out since 9:22pm August 28th for a total of six days.

And since the United Illuminating Company does not see fit to have human beings answer their phones, or provide any information beyond "we're trying very hard" and "thank you for your patience" I was wondering if someone in that company might like to respond here as to what's actually going on?

Because we haven't seen a utility truck on our street since Tuesday night when a little pickup with the UI logo drove slowly down and back up our street once without stopping.

So how about it United Illuminating? Got any concrete information you'd care to share beyond the hang-dog excuses and thank-yous you've been offering?

Because back in 1985 after hurricane Gloria, we had everything back to normal in 3 to 5 days. And that was despite the fact that the town looked like it experienced a cruise missile attack with the amount of trees and wires that were down.

So whassup guys?

5882  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Should I Get A Divorce? on: September 03, 2011, 08:03:41 AM
I forgot who said it, but rather than getting a divorce, it's easier to just find some attractive woman who doesn't like you very much and buy her a very expensive house. Especially since it amounts to much the same thing.  

5883  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Building a home server. Please help, DC! on: September 03, 2011, 02:49:12 AM
I don't understand how this is different than the configuration I posted on the previous page.  I don't mean technically, I mean conceptually.  Isn't this a rack/server type setup just like the one I posted from Stallard?

It's not. I think SJ was arguing for going with a standard server as opposed to a NAS device and worked up this configuration as an example of what could be gotten for similar money. (Hope so anyway - because that's why I was agreeing with him. Grin )

re: high-speed backbone

I think what's being said here is that a NAS is usually strictly a storage device. You can't log onto it and do things to the files stored there. So any file manipulation operations (i.e. conversions, ripping, directory management, etc.) need to be done on a PC and pushed/pulled over the network as opposed to being done directly on the server. Same with directory management and moving files. So with huge files, the speed of the network can become a bottleneck. And since a standard Windows server is also a workstation, you could further avoid network overhead by running things like a DVD rip directly on the server.
5884  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Building a home server. Please help, DC! on: September 02, 2011, 09:07:56 PM

Only to the person that created them. Because only they know the (true) reasoning behind whatever deviation(s) has/have been used to achieve said target number(s). Statistics are projections of what might be if ... All of the other formulaic assertions used fall into place in accordance with the known factual parameters used, and nothing odd happens. To anyone else there simply an educated guess, that leverages their level of trust in whom ever ran-the-numbers.

You're drastically oversimplifying. And you know it too! (I say that because I'm assuming you took at least two semesters of college-level stats.)   Grin

Besides, you're mixing sociological and political arguments in with a discussion of a branch of mathematics. Nothing good ever comes from doing that.  ;)Cool

@superboy - Scampering back on topic myself, I'll +1 w/SJ on that 2U/6-slot bang-for-the-buck opinion. The config he specc'ed gives you 12TB (or 8 usable w/RAID-5) plus a set of Xeons for a very good price - with room for an additional three drives if/when it turns out you need them. Getting that licensed copy of Win2k3 Server thrown in as part of the deal is an extra dollop of sweet sauce.

Nice work SJ! Thmbsup

5885  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Looking for very light IM (ICQ) client on: September 02, 2011, 02:49:09 PM
+1 w/skwire on Miranda IM.

IMO the best of the bunch for Windows.

5886  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anyone else using Ramdisk in Windows 7? on: September 02, 2011, 02:39:12 PM
It's almost unbelievable Windows has done nothing in all these years regarding swap.

Oh...I wouldn't be surprised if they did. They're probably just not sharing it.

In some respects I can understand why. In a well designed system, the system itself should take care of that without the user needing to get involved. And considering the number of Windows users who aren't "technical" (one of the drawbacks of being The Desktop of the Masses), maybe it's better that it's been dumbed-down at the user level.

And in all fairness, you can either view the ability to screw around with swap as a feature of Linux. Or proof positive that it wasn't implemented properly to begin with - hence the need for its tweakability.

Once again it's: [glass half empty | glass half full]  depending on who's doing the talking. Cool

5887  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anyone else using Ramdisk in Windows 7? on: September 02, 2011, 02:23:52 PM
If they improved swap file that's fine but by the very nature of file systems I would tend to guess the partition swap is a lot closer to the low level calculations that file systems use to manage the files. Therefore it's awfully likely there's another layer on top of that for the file system that's not there for the partition management.

Actually, swap in Linux is a lot more accessible and tweakable than it is in Windows. And better documented. If you have multiple swap spaces you can prioritize which gets used first. You can  temporarily or permanently tweak what set of conditions triggers a swap ("swappiness"). You can also very easily enable or completely disable swap from the command line. I tend to do that on machines with a lot of RAM. I'll enable swap only if I'm doing something that needs it. Then I'll disable it afterwards.

Good two part article on it here. Part-1 gives the main details. Part-2 gets into tweaking.

You can also temporarily or permanently swap to either a swap partition - or a swap file on a regular partition. That comes in handy if you ever discover you didn't create a big enough swap partition for your requirements. A swap file fixes the problem very nicely until you  around to resizing some partitions (also easy to do in Linux) to give you a bigger space if you prefer to keep swap on its own partition.

Yessir! Swap is a whole 'nother beast on Linux.  Thmbsup

5888  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Linux kernel.org hacked on: September 02, 2011, 01:20:48 PM
But isn't the mac crowd sort of mixed in with the *nix crowd now?

Nope. They want nothing to do with us nixers.

As far as they're concerned we're just wannabe Mac users that don't have enough education (or contacts) to get a job that pays well enough for us to afford Apple hardware. Which makes us just a bunch of techno-hippies, slackers, and eurotrash losers - in short,  nothing like the upwardly mobile and incredibly hip "beautiful people" that make up the Macintosh culture.

So please don't lump us in with the Mac crowd.

Because the Mac crowd certainly doesn't.

5889  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Building a home server. Please help, DC! on: September 02, 2011, 01:14:25 PM
They are mathematically bases guesses, or assumptions if you will.

Actually, they're a lot more than that. The only problem for the general public is that statistics is such a little understood branch of mathematics that most people neither respect nor 'get' what it's about.

And considering how widely misused and misquoted statistics are, it's small wonder.  smiley
5890  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Linux kernel.org hacked on: September 02, 2011, 11:02:07 AM
^Sorry to disappoint. But zridling and 40hz are serious and unapologetic Linux users.  tongue

5891  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / People just don't understand... on: September 02, 2011, 09:09:47 AM
A neighbor weighs in on Steve Jobs.

Would you believe he's not merely a colossal genius - he's also just "the guy next door?"

Yup...ok. undecided

Read all about it here.

5892  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Building a home server. Please help, DC! on: September 02, 2011, 08:12:08 AM

... it's early, and statistics tend to annoy me...  cheesy

Wow! Really?

I'm gonna have to introduce you to my Mom some day. She feels the same way about facts.  

Facts make her angry.  Wink

5893  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Superman's Troubles with Google+ on: September 02, 2011, 08:06:39 AM
Almost makes me long for the days of having nothing but pen
pals and pub buddies.
5894  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Linux kernel.org hacked on: September 02, 2011, 07:59:23 AM
@Ren - spot on! One of the reasons I like coming here.  Cool

P.S. I like Windows servers too! smiley

5895  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Linux kernel.org hacked on: September 02, 2011, 06:39:36 AM
^Do I detect a little flame-baiting from our T-man?  Grin Thmbsup
5896  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Centurylink is on CracK on: September 02, 2011, 05:25:52 AM
In some respects it's rather sad that you can't call a company's customer service line (and get a useful response) - but once you complain about them in a forum, their "reputation protection" bots come out of the woodwork.

I'm seeing more and more of this lately.  thumb down

If you have the time and resources to be constantly watching the entire web for references to your company name, why can't you make a similar effort to get a responsive support and service department into place?

5897  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: GOD IS DEAD~! =P on: September 01, 2011, 07:02:05 PM
...man, that song adapts way too easily

Nice  syrupy techno bass line too!  Thmbsup

Reminds me a little of Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus

P.S. Liked their original video and sound more before they remastered it for this. undecided

5898  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Building a home server. Please help, DC! on: September 01, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
there is no commercial grade NAS


There's a huge market for something bigger than a file server that doesn't entail the complexity and expense of implementing a SAN solution. That's where NAS really shines. Several of my corporate clients already use NAS appliances. And several others plan on getting one.

So...perhaps somebody better inform NetApp, HP, Hitachi, and a host of other manufacturers, that there's no such thing as what they're selling?  tongue

True. I'm not trying to deny the business merits of NAS appliances, I was just saying that there are a bunch of factors that prevent NAS from playing a serious role. smiley

To list a few:

1. The NIC becomes a serious bottleneck with increased capacity. How long will it take to back up a 10TB NAS with a SMB transfer speed of ~35MB? Very cumbersome to move large chunks of data for purposes like archiving/making backups.

Think about it even in a home usage scenario, a normal BD burning session at 8x from a NAS can easily max out its link.

2. Lack of fine-grained access management even with AD integration.

I haven't found that to be the case in many of the "commercial grade" products. Most support CIFS, NFS, NCP, HTTP and FTP protocols. And virtually all have multiple 1GB NICS provisioned for failover, load-balancing, and teaming. So there's no dearth of usable bandwidth there. And many either currently have, or will soon have, FCT -so they're also SAN ready should you ultimately need to take you NAS box in that direction. Same goes for access granularity. The management software and OS is top-notch.

But this is commercial grade ($5k range and up) we're talking about right? I'm not talking about a SnapServer or something similar.
5899  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Building a home server. Please help, DC! on: September 01, 2011, 06:29:19 PM
The schism/stepping off point is (or seems to be) cost. For the cost of 10TB of BestBuy class NAS boxes one could easily just get a refurbished commercial server that will always have parts available, is designed to take 100+ times the beating you'll ever give it, and it has a proper true hardware RAID controller ... With a year warranty ... For roughly the same price.

Amen. Exactly right!  Thmbsup

5900  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anyone else using Ramdisk in Windows 7? on: September 01, 2011, 05:50:50 PM
Dunno...maybe I'm just lazy (or stupid) but starting with XP I just set a fixed pagefile size to the maximum amount the system automatically determines when it's allowed to manage memory. And I have never experienced an OOM situation doing it that way.

As Stoic pointed out earlier, Windows is actually very good at managing it's memory space. So unless you have some very unusual requirements, most tech voodoo and deviation from the basics seldom nets a benefit worth pursuing. And with an operating system as locked down (and with so many undocumented subsystems) as Windows, it's not like you can always know what your mucking around with system and low level settings will do.

To me, life is far too short to bother with most of that unless I need to fix something that's broken. And most times, throwing in some additional RAM accomplishes the same thing faster and better anyway.

Ramdisks are another story. I use them (on servers) for rapidly updating temporary file caches and logs. But that's not something most people (except engineers or graphics pros) would ever need to worry about on a workstation. My feeling is that if you really do have a legitimate use for a ramdisk, you already know when, where, and why you need to set one up.

The people who do America's Test Kitchen  and Cooks magazinehave a philosophy I apply to much of the system tweaking I do. They're always asking." What does the extra work get you?" When Cooks publishes a recipe, they try out every variation (ex: 'milk heated' vs 'at room temperature' -or- should you use plain yogurt or sour cream) they can get their hands on. When they're done (they once tried 35 different recipe variations for sugar cookies!) they can tell you exactly what matters and what doesn't. What's a legitimate concern, and what's just old-wives tales.

Some of the most interesting and beneficial comments come when they find something fussy and persnickety that does make a difference. Because at that point, it becomes necessary to decide if it's worth the extra time and money. One recipe called for some extra steps and a seasonally hard to find ingredient. Their conclusion? It was the best recipe - but not really worth it for the added expense and inconvenience it entailed. The runner-up recipe gave the taste testers 99% of what the ideal recipe did - but with considerably less work and fussing. Conclusion: go with the runner-up for most occasions.

I approach system tweaks and optimization the same way.

In my field of business there's a saying: The first 90% of a project consumes 90% of the budget. The last 10% of the project consumes and additional 90% of the original budget.

I found that to be pretty much the case.  Grin

Just my tuppence. Thmbsup
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