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51  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 12, 2015, 12:34:05 PM
Clippy and Cortana serve completely different purposes.

Possibly only because the technology wasn't yet available (and Microsoft lacked Apple's "the world is my oyster" vision) to make it so? Wink
52  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: February 12, 2015, 10:39:52 AM
And since its been made a 'gender' issue, let's show another with just as much snark

I'd like to think it was a simple misunderstanding and not go there at all if that's ok. smiley Cool
53  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies or films you've seen lately on: February 12, 2015, 08:06:39 AM
Twelve O'Clock High (1949) with Gregory Peck as Gen. Frank Savage.



In this story of the early days of daylight bombing raids over Nazi Germany, General Frank Savage must take command of a "hard luck" bomber group. Much of the story deals with his struggle to whip his group into a disciplined fighting unit in spite of heavy losses, and withering attacks by German fighters over their targets. Actual combat footage is used in this tense war drama.

Classic WWII military "bomber buddies" coming of age tale that's unusual in that it raises the issue of the fundamental insanity of warfare without getting either rah-rah patriotic or surreal about it. (Like the brilliant Catch-22 did.) One of the few military movies from the period that openly recognized what war can do to an individual's mind after a while.

A "good old-fashioned" yet somehow very modern-feeling war movie, populated with all the usual characters. All presented in a short 132 minutes worth of glorious B&W! Who could ever ask for more?

Well worth a viewing. Thmbsup
54  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: February 12, 2015, 07:34:17 AM
i know society expects its girls to show diffidence when criticizing boys. but come on!

@gwen - I don't think that was a factor in Edvard's reply. I think it's more a reflection of the vibe around here. The feeling at DoCo is that you can get your shots in, or toss in the occasional bit of well-intentioned snarkiness, without much fear of genteel reprimand. But make too regular a habit of it - or run with it a little too long - and people here tend to call you on it.

This is an unusual forum. It's more like a family dinner conversation than anything else. And it has very similar social "rules." Ms. Maltese video bumped into that I think. An occasional face pull or air quote would have been fine. But the overall tone was rather sarcastic. And since it runs around 15 minutes, it can get a little tiring after a while. Even I was getting a little impatient over it. And I agreed with a large amount of what Ms. Maltese was saying.

My feeling is you can call somebody out in a debate without recourse to 15 minutes of subtext and pantomime that is basically saying: "This moron is full of it! He doesn't know what he is talking about." Truth is, I'd have found it far more acceptable if she just bluntly said it up front - then went on to the rest of her presentation sans most of the drama following.

But it was TV (even if it's half YouTube) and that's the behavioral norm for that weird kingdom - which is probably not worth defending - any more than it's worth letting it get to us.

The whole problem with alluding to something is it leaves the message too much up to individual interpretation. Which often differs from what was intended and leads to misunderstandings. Even a simple forum post runs that risk. Even when you're trying to be explicit. As I think is the case with something you heard in Edvard's post. And which I honestly do not think was his intended message at all. We've somehow managed to keep ourselves remarkably free of most of that "battle of the sexes" nonsense. Perhaps, being human, our track record isn't absolutely perfect on that score. But I think it comes pretty close. And we do try.

I don't think anybody (consciously or subconsciously) was trying to "mansplain" (is that the word?) anything. I just think Edvard was saying - "Enough with the digs and editorial glosses already. We get it! You think he's a con man. Now can we just move past that and get to the substance of your arguments please?"

55  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: February 12, 2015, 12:13:26 AM
and what is it with that snarky characterization? seriously?

I thought she might have hammered home some of her points a little harder than necessary at times. But hey! It's all just TV where snarkiness is the norm. So it's not like I thought she was out of line.

And I thought her objections were pretty well-founded. I'm not an archery expert by any stretch. But I do know more than a little about the sport from direct experience over the years.

As far as armour piercing capabilities, a 10-30 lb. draw will most definitely not pierce plate armour - and probably not chainmail either unless the arrow is extremely heavy and hits a weak link. FWIW plate armour is heavy. But it's distributed so it doesn't feel the same as if you were dead lifting an equivalent weight. However, wearing it can tire you out fairly quickly (like ankle and wrist weights can), which is why ground combat was never the preferred mode of fighting for someone wearing plate. They preferred to be mounted on horses for a reason. And it's extremely hot to wear. Heat prostration was always a concern for the armored knights of yore. A good hot day could take down as many of them as a human enemy could.

56  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 11, 2015, 10:59:52 AM
Is Cortana funded by some American anti-terror agency?  undecided

I sometimes get the feeling that the entire world of technology is now being funded by some big and terrified American agency.

I wonder if they will ever realize that 90% of the terror they're fighting against is often nothing more than the terror that only exists in their imaginative heads?


Full soon in deepest hearts care finds a nest,
And builds her bed of pain, in secret still,
There rocks herself, disturbing joy and rest,
And ever takes new shapes to work her will
With fluttering fears for home or wife or child,
A thought of poison, flood, or perils wild;

For man must quail at bridges never crossed,
Lamenting even things he never lost."

                           -- Goethe, Faust
57  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies or films you've seen lately on: February 11, 2015, 10:45:29 AM
I'd never seen a "One Step Beyond" episode before this evening.

The first episode? Pretty darn cool.

I really liked OSB and sprung to get it on DVD along with a multi-disk Hitchcock TV collection.

The short story format was definitely experiencing a Golden Age between the late 40s and early 60s. Especially in the scifi, mystery, and horror genres. Some of the finest writing those genres ever produced got penned during that era. All the biggies (Asimov, Ray Bradbury (who was probably the best), Bob Heinlein, Harlan Ellison, Sam Delaney, "Doc" Smith, Ellory Queen, Rex Stout, et al were all busy cranking out these fantastic short stories. So it was only natural that TV shows like OSB, Thriller, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, (and the much later Night Gallery) would benefit from their existence. These were stories written by actual writers rather than just some backroom network hack screenwriter - with the utterly brilliant Rod Serling being the notable exception.

A lot of times, these old shows we remember so fondly disappoint us once we get to rewatch them. (Hindsight may be 20-20 - but it also has a habit of looking at what's "fondly remembered from the past" through rose-tinted glasses just the same.) So I was really happy to discover these old shows held up rather well for me. There may have been one or two episodes in each I didn't really care for because of the subject or a particular actor. But they were all nicely written and produced. And still entertaining. Which is more than I can say about some movies I bought which I remembered enjoying at one time.

(OMG! I can't believe I ever thought Ben-Hur was a good picture! Grin)
58  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 11, 2015, 10:15:01 AM
^Considering how well the spell check suggestions work on my iPhone, I had very little in the way of hopeful expectations when it came to Siri. And I soon discovered it wasn't unreasonable for me to feel that way about it.

I especially appreciate the way Siri sometimes pops up without being asked. I lost several critical moments in a presentation I was recording thanks to my not noticing Siri was waiting for me to ask it to do something - and suspended the recording app I was using in order to do so. Which I don't get. The phone was just sitting on the table in front of me - completely untouched - when it happened.


Siri is a rather pretty bit of coding. But it's also (from my experience) rather useless. I guess you could say Siri is 'pretty useless.'

At least AFAIC.
59  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Britain gives go-ahead to test driverless cars on roads on: February 11, 2015, 09:01:25 AM
Probably no worse or more risky than our current practice of allowing brain-dead humans to operate a motor vehicle. At least if the US driving scene is anything to go by.  Wink
60  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 11, 2015, 08:56:09 AM
Clippy is baaaaack! But this time, he's gotten a major overhaul and a new name (Cortana) - and is no longer restricted to helping you figure out how to use Office.

I have very mixed feelings about this new feature Microsoft will be introducing into their Windows 10 OS.

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I have to admire the implicit hubris in the assertion that Microsoft knows "what's great for customers."

Maybe it's me, but the "yes-buts" are drowning out the "sounds-goods" right now. And I find the constantly repeated "your" to somewhat suspect considering Microsoft's track record on issues such as privacy and square dealings with their customers.

The Register has an article on it here.
61  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Peer Review and the Scientific Process on: February 11, 2015, 06:48:28 AM

Not sure what any of this has to do with peer review and the scientific process though...

It's tangentially related at best - as in: rather off topic. embarassed

My apologies. Perhaps a mod could edit it out and move it elsewhere, or to its own thread? (Or I could just remove my OTs myself. Pls advise.)

Strikes me as an active example of the process, albeit by non-professionals in the field  undecided tongue.  Sort of a peer review of Peer Review and the Scientific Process, as it were.

Ouch! Painful...but true. huh

Guilty as charged yer Honor! (Again with apologies to all.) embarassed

62  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies or films you've seen lately on: February 10, 2015, 09:00:23 PM
Back on topic...just rewatched the 1941 masterpiece Citizen Kane recently. Orson Wells at his finest moment. Lives up to all that's been said about it. Recommended Thmbsup Thmbsup.
63  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies or films you've seen lately on: February 10, 2015, 08:37:32 PM
Damn, if that's true, Poser is awesome!!

Just googled it. There are several motion cap apps that work with Poser apparently. Some are very inexpensive considering, Uh-oh! Grin
64  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Peer Review and the Scientific Process on: February 10, 2015, 07:55:02 PM
So... do you kick those newly vaccinated kids out of school because they're now contagious?

As in possibly contagious? Not everybody who gets vaccinated will become contagious. If they did, there would be widespread evidence that this was happening. And AFAIK, that has not been the case.

Prudence says a two day lay-up might not be unreasonable. But more for the vaccine recipient's protection rather than for the other kid's since the recipient's immune system will be busy building immunity to what they were vaccinated for, and may be mildly compromised as a result.

So how about possibly having school-aged children always get vaccinated during the summer school break (as I always was) before returning to school? That's almost three full calendar months out of the classroom. Plenty of time to get it done - and recover from it. It only takes a minute.

You could even have the public health department handle it like my town (and several churches and local businesses and pharmacies) do where I live. You don't need a full physician's exam to be vaccinated unless you're worried about something going in. The alternate vaccine distribution points in my town also have an ambulance and EMTs on standby onsite just in case something goes sideways for somebody. It's no more dangerous than being vaccinated in a doctor's office. My town (which is an admittedly well-to-do town) makes it so easy to get a flu or pneumonia shot there's almost a no excuse not to if you genuinely want one. Dirt cheap too ($20) if you can afford to pay for it. Absolutely free of charge if you can't.

So yes...there are alternatives beyond just bouncing kids out of school.

What happens here is that a child may be sent home for not having up-to-date vaccinations (if you don't have a medical justification backed by a physician's signature or a "religious" exemption) since vaccinations are mandatory for school attendance in my town's public school system. Same rule goes for our private schools, of which there are four. The Catholic parochial school system requires proof of current vaccinations as a condition of attendance. It's spelled out in their terms of service. So between public, private, and parochial schools that's roughly 99 point something percent of all school children here.

And since school attendance (or authorized home schooling) is mandatory up to age 16 where I live, parents can run afoul of state truancy laws if their kids aren't attending school due to their not being vaccinated. So there's a bit of an incentive there as well.

I guess the only kids who are able to get around it are the homeschooled kids. But they're a tiny fraction of the population so I don't think they pose a significant threat in my area where vaccination is the norm. However if they visited Disney World...

I have yet to hear of anybody launching an outbreak because they became contageous subsequent to being vaccinated. But people who have not been vaccinated certainly have. So sending somebody home purely because they have been vaccinated doesn't seem either reasonable or necessary - as opposed to sending someone home who hasn't. You are playing odds. But when you do that you have to take significance into consideration. A tossed coin doesn't really have 50-50 odds of heads or tails. It could land and stick on its thin side. But the likelyhood of that happening is so minute as to not even be worth considering. I think the same goes for spreading something because you were vaccinated. The warnings that are issued for that eventuality cover the specific groups (expectent mothers, newborns, HIV postives, et al.) that actually might be at risk for that rare scenario. So I don't see where it's disingenuous or hypocritical to say it isn't really necessary to ban a recent vaccine recipient from school for a few days on the remote chance they're contagious. Especially in a school full of already vaccinated kids and teachers.

Just my two cents anyway. smiley
65  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: License, registration, and insurance...or your cell phone on: February 10, 2015, 05:00:57 PM
I say if you willingly hand your phone to a police officer, you should assume that he will snoop through it. But as long as it's just an option, and not required, then I don't mind the choice being there.

You're assuming he might is not the same thing as giving your consent. At least not here it wasn't since "implied consent" was never seriously argued as being valid whenever police were involved. Or more correctly, not until recently.

There's also the question of just how willing anything is when involving the police. If an officer says "Give me your phone." your refusal can easily be justified as grounds for your arrest. Or in some cases, an excuse to use deadly force, as in: "Yes Your Honor...The remanding officer, upon not receiving 'cooperation' from the suspect, briefly looked away to check his radio and request backup. But upon looking back, saw the suspect holding an object in his hand in an threatening manner - which gave the officer cause to believe it was a firearm being pointed at him. Fearing for his own and several bystander's safety, the officer then unholstered and discharged his own firearm at the suspect in accordance with departmental policies governing the use of deadly force, striking the suspect three times in the chest at near point blank range. Medical assistance and additional police backup was immediately summoned subsequent to the officer discharging his firearm. EMTs arrived on the scene 15 minutes later, but were unable to revive the suspect who was pronounced "dead at the scene" 20 minutes and 17 seconds after the arrival of emergency medical assistance. The officer was placed on administrative leave pending internal investigation. After conducting a thorough investigation, the Internal Affairs investigating team cleared the officer, concluding his actions to be both justifiable and in accordance with departmental policy regarding the use of deadly force. As a result, the recommendation was made that no criminal charges be filed against this officer. The District Attorney, after reviewing this investigation, has announced the state will not be filing charges nor convene a grand jury to further investigate this incident. In light of that, we would like to request the court now grant a summary dismissal of all civil charges currently pending against this officer. And we further request these charges be dismissed with prejudice due to lack of merit.."

That scenario plays out far more often than you'd like to think it does.
66  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies or films you've seen lately on: February 10, 2015, 01:35:56 PM
^That's fine. You were just offering your opinion. Though after looking at some cell-shaded examples, I suspect you're right. smiley
67  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: DARPA Hacks GM's OnStar To Remote Control A Chevrolet Impala on: February 10, 2015, 01:33:11 PM
^ I figured as much.  Thmbsup I wish what I was asking was half as tongue in cheek. Grin
68  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: DARPA Hacks GM's OnStar To Remote Control A Chevrolet Impala on: February 10, 2015, 12:55:26 PM
Is it really hacking when you own it?

Good question. But an even better one would be "Do you actually own it?" Everybody seems to want to merely license rather than sell you things these days. According to Apple and B&N I don't own my devices. I only own the physical artifact itself. Any functionality it provides (and the software that makes it happen) belongs to them. I just get to use it. According to them I'm contractually prohibited from loading any software but theirs on 'their' devices or loading it in any way other than through their app stores too.

A client of mine recently purchased a multifunction network copier/fax/scanner from one of the big names. It comes with a "feature key" hardware thingy which you have to insert and register in order for the device to do anything. I guess they make one device and you get to decide what capabilities you want to to enable and pay for. From what I can see in the EULA, that key is non-transferable. So you may sell your old machine to somebody else - but - it seems they'll need to make arrangements to buy their own key in order for it to function.

I'm hearing of a lot of that sort of thinking lately - although the law is still hazy about how acceptable that concept may be since it acts to restrict the original "owner" from participating in the used equipment market. It's a real problem. Especially since some high priced yoga pants manufacturer is requiring it's buyers to contractually agree not to resell any of their products as a condition of your purchase. (All done in the name of "protecting the unsuspecting buyer," preventing counterfeit products, and "maintaining quality and brand reputation," of course. Yeah, right!. undecided)

So what does it mean to own something these days?
69  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies or films you've seen lately on: February 10, 2015, 12:32:57 PM
I think it's just cell-shaded 3D models from Poser or something like that.

Thx. Learn something new every day. smiley
70  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Peer Review and the Scientific Process on: February 10, 2015, 11:22:01 AM
Ok. I stand corrected. But that's also VARIVAX. (Chicken-pox, right?) So how many more vaccines have similiar concerns precisely? Current anti-vax arguments say all vaccines are unacceptably dangerous. I don't think that's correct.  (BTW, chicken pox is a very serious illness if contracted by an elderly person or someone with severe respiratory health problems.)

Going back to the the chance of spreading something post vaccination - if people who are exposed are already immunized either from a previous bout with the actual disease - or have been previously vaccinated as most vaccine protocols recommend - the individual infection is extremely unlikely to spread to those exposed.

Again, they're citing a boundary situation that could possibly become an issue if only a few people are vaccinated - and the majority of the population are not. If 99% of the population is already immune, the occasional person who may become contagious post-vaccination does not pose a serious risk to the general population. Just the holdouts

Exceptions can be given till the cows come home. I think it's more beneficial to focus on the norm as long as those exceptions remain exactly that - statistically insignificant.

Just my two cents anyway. The demand for perfection remains a barricade to accomplishing demonstrable good - if you allow it. smiley
71  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies or films you've seen lately on: February 10, 2015, 09:03:34 AM
There was also Boris Karloff's TV series Thriller and the Alcoa Aluminum sponsored One Step Beyond that were similarly themed and quite good - although Karloffs sardonic intros, and Hitchcock's dry wit and backhanded swipes at "The Sponsors," added an appreciated humorous touch that the others lacked.

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They're both out on DVD! Thmbsup
72  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: DARPA Hacks GM's OnStar To Remote Control A Chevrolet Impala on: February 10, 2015, 08:49:37 AM
One problem is that law enforcement is actively pushing for a "remote disable plus tracking" feature to be built into all cars sold in the USA. They're arguing that this would increase public safety by removing the possibility for engaging in a high speed chase.

So...I suppose the getaway vehicle of choice will then become a motorcycle? Then what? (Oh right...we still have police drones so we can do an eye-in-the-sky if we need to go after those, right?)

As Stoic alluded to earlier, in any tit-for-tat tech exchange, the bad inevitably comes along with the good.

It never ends...and if it ever does end, it will end badly. undecided
73  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Peer Review and the Scientific Process on: February 10, 2015, 08:35:19 AM
Information on the different types of vaccines can be found here. Approaches being considered for future vaccines can be found here.

@Ren - IIUC you can't (except in that rare situation with the old oral polio vaccine - which is no longer administered) come down with the illness that an attenuated-live vaccine is designed to provide immunization for unless the batch that was administered was defective. And my understanding is that cases of defective vaccine batches making it into actual circulation are extremely rare occurrences.

Some vaccines, however, do lower your overall immune response such that you're more susceptible to an opportunistic infection while your body is generating the immuno response to the pathogen in the vaccine. So I'm guessing your friend may be getting sick after being vaccinated for flu because his immune system doesn't respond well to vaccination, and either takes a bigger hit, or takes longer than usual to recover from one. If so, during that period he's more open to infection by any one of the thousands of other flu strains in the environment that the "annual" flu vaccine (which only covers a small number of the most anticipated strains) is engineered to help you deal with.

That's why some people who come down with a serious flu infection also wind up with a case of "shingles" or pneumonia during their illness or recovery. (Happened to me once.) Which is why they're also starting to recommend people in certain age brackets be vaccinated (or re-vaccinated) for chickenpox/shingles along with pneumonia.

However, the real benefit of vaccination is realized when most of the population is immunized because vaccines go a long way towards reducing the disease's vectors of transmission. If one person contracts in a group of immunized people, the disease doesn't spread. Possibly a few others (including those vaccinated) will become infected. But that's about as far as it will go.

If a large portion of the population is not vaccinated however, and isn't already immune from a previous brush with that infection, you have the very real potential for another Disney scenario. The deadly consequences of uncontrolled contagion are such that even in the world of military planning, germ warfare is almost automatically ruled out as an option . And it's not due to any sense of showing decency towards a real or imagined enemy. It's done mainly out of a sense of "enlightened self-interest." And the military also routinely vaccinates troops "just in case."

When professional mayhem creators such as the military acknowledge the dangers of contagion enough to rule it out as a weapon system, and vaccinate their own as a precaution based on established knowledge of how disease propagates and spreads, I find it interesting that so many people (who pride themselves on their self-'education') - and who benefited from vaccination themselves while growing up - are so convinced of the inefficacy and "danger" of vaccines. And with so little solid evidence to support their belief. Indeed, there's a huge amount of rock solid scientific evidence that clearly and directly contradicts the anti-vaccination argument. And now they're so convinced that their Googled "instant expertise" exceeds that of the genuine professionals in the field that they're even willing to put their own (and other's) kid's health (and lives) on the line to prove they're right. That just boggles my mind. Small wonder they had to drag that old brickbat "Conspiracy!" and toss some ad hominem attacks into the discussion to 'support' their position.

But it is true that vaccines are not a panacea for every individual. And they may harm a minuscule portion of the population despite all the precautions taken to assure their safety. There will always be boundary conditions and exceptions in biology. And risk will always be present with any vaccine or medication, no matter how slight.

FWIW my doctors have always advised me to avoid crowds and take it easy for a day or two after I've gotten a vaccination so my system has time to adjust. Vaccines aren't one of those simple "dose & go" or "magic bullet" solutions like antibiotics often are. They don't kill or ameliorate an infection themselves. They "encourage" your body develop its own defense against them. Which takes your body time to fully boot up.

Like most things in medicine, it seems like it's seldom "just one simple thing," but rather a combination of factors on different levels of an individual's health regime (i.e. locale, environment, genetics & gender, age, diet & nutrition, exercise, competent medical care and advice, drugs, vaccines, timing, etc.) that yields the most benefit.

I've been given to understand that vaccines (by themselves) aren't a magic cure-all. But I haven't heard immunologists or competent medical doctors claim they are either. Vaccines are, however, damn good insurance. With vaccines it's all about risk minimization and mitigation. Because at this stage of our medical knowledge and technology, that's about as good as we can make it.

74  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Do we have any musical people on DC? on: February 09, 2015, 08:24:31 PM
How many of these have you heard during a recording session?  Grin Grin Grin

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75  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Do we have any musical people on DC? on: February 09, 2015, 08:14:08 PM
How to be a "jerk guitarist." Works for bass players too!  huh

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Feel free to add your own. Grin
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