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101  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Wikimedia refuses to remove animal selfie because monkey ‘owns’ the photo on: August 10, 2014, 11:48:08 AM
I don't think that we'll ever have copyright that makes sense though. The edge cases just push too hard.

That and the fact that most of human progress (technical and cultural) is the result of creating derivative works or combining multiple works to create synergies. So how we do things as a species runs into direct conflict with the whole notion of ownership of non-physical objects.

Another problem (I think) comes from the belief of many that personal creativity is a finite resource. That you only have so many pictures or songs or whatever in you  - and once they're made pubic, you're somehow "used up." So that's one motivation behind the desire of many to milk every possible penny from everything they do for as long as possible.

I also think the other motivator is that many people simply don't like to work at their art. And don't plan on doing it any longer than absolutely necessary. They want the brass ring - that one song or book or photo that hits the jackpot and sets them up for life.

It's almost like that same short-sighted venture capital goal of an early "cash-out" has come to the art and creative world. That mindset has hurt business. Because there's no longer a long-term goal to actually build sustainable business. Just to get them to where they can be sold. Then, take the money and move on.

Now we have people that call themselves "artists" or "creatives" that have no intention of pursuing a lifetime career in their art for. They're looking for that one thing they can sell over and over so they won't have to work at it any more. Thank goodness they have increasingly insane IP laws and arguments to help them along.

To my mind, our biggest problem with IP is that, in order to have a fair and workable copyright law, we need to apply common sense. And laws and the legal system generally aren't about common sense. They're about complex definitions and tortuous semantic arguments. And an entire professional industry and branch of the government has been built upon it. And they employ tens of thousands of clever well-heeled individuals whose very livelihood is dependent upon things remaining the way they are.

I don't have much hope. Sad
102  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Best Independent web page about security (fight against viruses, pc security...) on: August 10, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
P.D. I am searching for guvernamental web pages about security....

@C - Um...it should be P.S. (as in 'postscript') not P.D.

And try your search with the term "governmental" or just plain "government." Guvernamental isn't a word. Wink

Or (for US government resources) just look here and here. That's where nearly all the publicly available information is shared.
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103  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Wikimedia refuses to remove animal selfie because monkey ‘owns’ the photo on: August 10, 2014, 11:16:50 AM
In the building trade, the problem is 'gentleman's agreements' all the time.

Unfortunately, there are very few 'gentlemen' to be found in the business end of art.

Most who deal in art as a business are has-beens, wannabes, and opportunistic middle-men.

It used to be said that "Those who can - do! Those who can't - teach."

Today it's more and more the case that those who can't simply put themselves in charge - and attempt to license everything. undecided
104  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Wikimedia refuses to remove animal selfie because monkey ‘owns’ the photo on: August 09, 2014, 09:29:37 PM
It's all kind of silly. I doubt any court will extend IP legal protections to a non-human at this stage of the game.

I don't think Wikimedia is trying to argue that the copyright belongs to the ape. I think the point of Wikimedia's argument is that the image is essentially in the public domain because the camera's owner doesn't own the copyright (as he didn't take the picture, or even supervise/direct the photograph in any way), and the photographer (the person/creature/thing that took the photo) is not a human, so the ape can't own the copyright either.

Um...I think most of us got both the joke and the point the Wikimedia Foundation was trying to make. I doubt anybody took the argument that the ape held the copyright very seriously.  Wink
105  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Celluloid vs digital: what are the REAL differences? on: August 09, 2014, 04:05:16 PM
And yes - I've been out of touch with modern Satanic death metal lately. smiley

Why you poor thing! You've missed sooooo much... tongue


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106  DonationCoder.com Software / Post New Requests Here / Re: IDEA: Application memory limiter on: August 09, 2014, 03:44:28 PM
Please anybody know about such thing

IIRC there used to be something called a "job object" where you could do something similar.

My infobase has something from CodeProject that a coder might be able to use for ideas about ways to accomplish it.

Here's the link to the CodeProject page. But from the looks of it, it's a 32-bit solution and it's pretty old.

Can't comment beyond that. The CodeProject page was part of some research I was doing for a client for something I've long since forgotten about. Apologies. embarassed


Funny thing...the old Macintosh operations systems (Prior to OSX) used to have that capability. If you requested "info" on an app (equivalent to "properties" in Windows) you got this window (see below) where you could easily set the min/max amount of RAM use allowed per application...

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With heavyweight graphic apps like Photoshop and Quark you often had to fiddle with those values to find a setting that minimized app crashes on your machine. Otherwise you'd get one of those dreaded "bomb" notifications.

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Back when 8Mb was considered a full RAM complement, futzing with RAM settings was a big - and necessary -  deal.
107  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: Enough with the text editors... let's talk Terminal Emulators! on: August 09, 2014, 02:49:56 PM
"Multi-terminal needs" can easily be solved with tmux.

"Easily solved" just so long as everyone's needs are the same.  tongue

I'm familiar with tmux btw. It's a very sweet bit of code if you don't mind one more client/server running on your system. But tmux's design goals are somewhat different than Terminator's.

Nice we have so many choices. Cool
108  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Don't be afraid Arthur Dent. Be VERY afraid! on: August 09, 2014, 02:38:17 PM
A self-folding origami inspired robot...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsCmG6O0Eo4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsCmG6O0Eo4</a>

I'm sure the military planners are salivating already... tellme
109  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: Enough with the text editors... let's talk Terminal Emulators! on: August 09, 2014, 07:27:28 AM
This isn't limited to *nix TE's I presume?

Doesn't have to be. Share what you've got. We're all friends here. smiley
110  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: Enough with the text editors... let's talk Terminal Emulators! on: August 08, 2014, 06:14:17 PM
For simple tasks I use Guake. Can't beat the convenience of that drop-down feature. Thmbsup

For more complex multi-terminal needs I'll use Terminator.

I've generally found it's best to just pick a TE found in your repository and stick with it until you learn it inside out. If it gives you everything you want, stop there. If not, try another one. They're all pretty much the same under the hood.
111  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: LinuxCon 2014 on: August 08, 2014, 05:53:09 PM
I WISH I were going, does that count?  huh

Absolutely. Welcome to the club! Grin
112  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Russian hackers steal 1.2B passwords on: August 08, 2014, 05:50:58 PM
^I like the old 70s term "rip-off" (or "ripped off" if you want the verb) for everything else since that term also implied fraud - as in:

That was a complete rip-off.
We just ripped them off big time!
I just got ripped off!

...etc.

I suppose the best word for ripping off music or videos right now is pwn. (They pwned that new album right off their server Bro!)

You didn't steal or abscond - you took ownership of something. Which doesn't mean you took all of it.

Yeah...

I'm gonna stand on pwn. Grin
113  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: LinuxCon 2014 on: August 08, 2014, 05:44:24 PM
Quote from: Masonjar13 link=topic=38649.m :Thmbsup:sg361479#msg361479 date=1407537116
Thanks 40hz

My pleasure. Go get em' Tiger! smiley
114  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Celluloid vs digital: what are the REAL differences? on: August 08, 2014, 05:40:03 PM
...we now have a generation of music fans acoustically weaned on 128k mp3s  undecided

This! Thmbsup

And because of that, so much of what I was trained to strive for just went out the door. Because you'll never be able to hear it with most modern music reproduction tech.

Which is why I think live performance attendance is at an all time high. You can still hear the difference there. And the audiences can tell the difference even if they don't have the knowledge and vocabulary to say exactly what the difference is.

But they don't need. to. They can hear it. Wink

115  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Wikimedia refuses to remove animal selfie because monkey ‘owns’ the photo on: August 08, 2014, 05:28:28 PM
It's all kind of silly. I doubt any court will extend IP legal protections to a non-human at this stage of the game.

And the fact the photographer didn't himself take the shot rules out his claiming copyright as the photographer.

However, because he owned the means (i.e. the camera that took the shot) and in the absence of any other human claiming to have been the photographer, he probably has the best claim to legal ownership of the picture.

Now perhaps the ape could file suit...but he'd need representation since (again as a non-human) he couldn't file on his own behalf - and it would be interesting to see how they could establish that he gave his informed consent for an attorney to represent him...hmmm

I suppose a judge could make him a ward of the state and appoint legal counsel on his behalf. But that would be such a career limiting move that I don't think many US judges (and certainly not any residing outside the State of California) would even consider doing such a thing.

Then there's the thorny question of jurisdiction in that this ape is a resident of Indonesia, and the photo was taken in Indonesia so it's questionable which courts would have jurisdiction. (I'm guessing it wouldn't be the United States in any event.)

Hmm...now should Indonesia decide to make this monkey a ward of the state...and file on his behalf under the international law (good) or international trade agreement (even better) there might be some kerfuffle over who was legally entitled to whatever money could be made...

Yup...it's insane.

Copyright and related IP law needs to be reformed. Pronto. tellme
116  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: LinuxCon 2014 on: August 08, 2014, 05:15:44 PM
I don't think I'm quite good enough myself for any of those companies, but someday.

You never know until you try. If they won't hire you, maybe they can offer you some solid career advice.

Don't just walk around and gawk. Make it a point to try and meet some people while you're there.

Luck! Thmbsup
117  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: New "censorship" technique on Youtube on: August 08, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
hmmm...is it me or did the world in general suddenly become more "active" the past couple of weeks?

Well...we do have a new East-West Cold War starting to ramp up...

But that's what rattling your sabres and slinging that tired old BS nationalist rhetoric will get you.

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118  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: New "censorship" technique on Youtube on: August 08, 2014, 05:03:14 PM
oh yeah,
Miles! you've been hanging around with too many skinny models !! tongue

Heh heh.  I must be gettin' old cuz Britney ain't lookin' too bad to me.  smiley

I'll still stick to Juliette Binoche  Kiss or Julia Ormond. If I want thin there's always Mila Jovovich. She's a passable "sorta pop" musician too. (I've heard worse music - some of which garnered major awards.)
119  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: New "censorship" technique on Youtube on: August 08, 2014, 04:02:14 PM
The people doing game walkthru and review vids are complaining. Game music is getting caught by the same filters.
120  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Celluloid vs digital: what are the REAL differences? on: August 08, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
The clinical approaches in a lot of what happens today are stale, dead, lifeless -- they're trapped in a sterile corporate culture of lifelessness fueled by LCD - the lowest common denominator. That's what buddy in the video 40hz was going on about - the lack of life.

Unless, of course, you actually like that sort of thing. No accounting for taste, but far be it from me to tell somebody what they should be listening to or watching.

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It's not the tools. It's the artist.

It's also the audience. If you do your art purely for art's sake, there's no need to publish it. You just do it for yourself. Like Emily Dickenson.

But if you want somebody else to experience it, it's a little more complicated. The audience has rights too. It's not all about the artist once you take it public.

121  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Russian hackers steal 1.2B passwords on: August 08, 2014, 03:47:35 PM
True. My point was more about how "digital piracy" isn't actually theft. "Stolen" passwords definitely present a much bigger risk of personal loss than a "stolen" digital movie.

Even so, if someone "steals" the combination to your safe, nothing has been stolen until they use the combination to open your safe and steal the contents.

I prefer the old security term "compromise" as in: to expose or make vulnerable to danger

Whether or not something was taken is almost moot once your security is compromised and the potential is there for someone to act upon it.

Now if the act of compromising the security of digital accounts or IDs was specifically made a crime it would go a long way towards clearing up that nagging issue of whether or not it was an actual criminal act if nothing had been taken yet.

 Cool
122  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: My New Temporary 14 day Blog that does not support comments on: August 07, 2014, 10:21:58 AM
@IainB - what is Bazqux charging these days? I visited their website but couldn't find any pricing info.
123  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Knight to queen's bishop 3 - Snowden charged with espionage. on: August 07, 2014, 10:16:51 AM
^Hoo-boy! And US congressional elections are coming up soon too! That one should make for some fine political posturing, right-wing sabre rattling, and rhetorical firework displays. Grin
124  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Wikimedia refuses to remove animal selfie because monkey ‘owns’ the photo on: August 07, 2014, 10:11:14 AM
^Just hand them a dollar for doing it. Then you have offer, tender, and acceptance and it becomes "work for hire."

And yeah, this stuff is utter nonsense and really needs to be fixed. I've already seen a few new sysadmin hires who wanted to talk about arranging licensing for the entry-level shell script they just wrote - for the client who is paying their wages  - because ad hoc administrative scripting wasn't specifically mentioned in their job description.

I wonder just what blog or irc channel they got that idea from? undecided

And here I thought I was a BOFH... tellme
125  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Silk Road Seized - Dread Pirate Roberts Arrested on: August 07, 2014, 09:16:06 AM
Due process is a joke.

Not really. It's pretty precise for the most part. But it doesn't quite work the way people think it does - or think it should. Especially when we're sympathetic towards the defendant.

The biggest problem Ulbricht has is his allowing Silk Road to become associated with some things he had to have known would put it on very shaky legal grounds. Turning a blind eye and then claiming ignorance isn't a smart legal defence strategy. And displaying wilful ignorance is very often interpreted as an admission of culpability. Then he got foolish and decided to double-down and thumb his nose when it became general public knowledge there were concerns about the operation and activities taking place within Silk Road.

Sorry Ren, I don't see this as a kangaroo court just yet. (Although it could always turn into one.) I think the government prosecutors are dotting every i and crossing every t while his defence team is shot-gunning everything they can think of to muddy the waters and try to give them the moral high ground.

It's not going to work.

Like TechDirt, my real regret is that this isn't a good case to test the recent SC interpretations on limits for gathering evidence. It's a weak case on those grounds. And if those 4th Amendment motions are addressed in the final judgement, it will have the effect of legally weakening the SC's ruling by making judges (who generally do pay close attention to case law precedent) more likely to dismiss 4th Amendment challenges to the admissibility of evidence going forward.

Opponents of that SC ruling are probably hoping those motions by Ulbricht's legal team loom large in the upcoming trial for that very reason..

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