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176  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Cross-platform mobile apps development: MonoTouch/MonoDroid, Marmalade, etc. on: October 03, 2011, 08:55:22 AM
@Renegade: Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate. The C~ish route does seem pretty sensible (in terms of employment, language versatility, robustness, performance and "expendability"), and since my own reflections and curiosity (not to mention experience) tend to go/be into that direction too, it seems like a good "match". But I'll see.

As f0dder says, Rhodes and maybe other alternative -- even if they seem nice at the first glance -- aren't as sensible choices. At least in my case:  the story might be different if I was a Ruby programmer, but I am not...

I haven't been doing much work on the whole mobile app development subject in the last few days. But when I will, I'll update this thread with other thoughts/opinions.
177  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: MonoTouch / MonoDroid (Mono for Android) VS Marmalade, etc. on: September 30, 2011, 09:43:15 AM
Thanks for your opinions! Some quick answers/thoughts :

@mahesh2k: Thanks. Looks nice and powerful too. I bookmarked it and will study it some more later.

@Eóin: I knew you were using marmalade from another thread here. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about UI aspects. Marmalade seems like it's putting a lot of effort into its UI framework and so maybe it'll soon be able to lenify your (legitimate) "criticisms". Wink

Quote from: Eóin
The type of app you want to develop is important, how much OS integration will you want?"


It's of course an important point, and I know my intro was a bit vague (on purpose)... Unfortunately, I'm not entirely "there" yet, in terms of details etc.. It will most probably be database oriented, with information exchange (xml, json), grids to display data, etc. For that type of stuff, I have the feeling (from what I've read) that MonoTouch would be a good candidate. But it's mostly an (educated) feeling at this point as other packages would be able to handle that easily as well I believe.

@Renegade:Yes, I saw you're using MonoTouch. MonoTouch looks great. And the posts on stackoverflow and other articles all around are pretty positive and inspiring. Not to mention the "most important" MonoDroid side of the coin which makes the whole package even more attractive.

Quote from: Renegade
Whichever toolkit you choose, just make sure that you're comfortable with it.

To be honest, I think I'd go with a C~ish language if I were to choose again. (I use the Mono toolkits.) A lot of mobile kits are basically just high-level scripting languages with little possibility to do much other than line of business applications (which they are designed for). Marmalade looks very nice there as it would also let you easily move to other C-based SDKs like bada.

This is just the beginning of the trip for me, and I don't know how much time and energy I want to invest in that "project" yet. I'm also a beginner and I need to make choices without loosing touch with the "big picture" (i.e.: other contracts and future jobs which might not be linked to mobile development).

In "C~ish type of language", I guess you don't include C#, or... do you ?

My "background" (ahem -- more of a foreground...) is Java and VB (with all the other usual stuff like XML, JSON, etc.), so in any case I'm ready to learn a new language if necessary -- C#, .Net, C++, Objective C, JavaScript, Ruby, Python, whatever.  Of course -- as I just suggested -- it'd ideally be a language which I could also relatively easily use for other contracts (i.e.: a language well adapted to the current market). I know C# and Objective C are still growing in popularity and C++ is pretty stable. The little I've read on C#, I like... But so did the stuff I read about C++ and Objective C. However, I'm wondering how much use Objective-C has outside Apple and iOS, so it doesn't look like the best choice at this point -- especially that I'm not targeting iOS per se, but also Android and Windows (mobile).  I might be wrong though.

Anyway... I don't want to get into a dull/superficial language debate as I'm pretty sure you guys will understand my points.

looking forward to even more points of view !
178  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: How To Write Unmaintainable Code on: September 29, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
^^^Would make a great "signature".
179  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: MonoTouch / MonoDroid (Mono for Android) VS Marmalade, etc. on: September 28, 2011, 09:19:14 PM
Nice (older) post on MonoTouch and Objective C on stackoverflow. Is MonoTouch worth the cost or should I just learn Objective-C?
180  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: How To Write Unmaintainable Code on: September 28, 2011, 08:52:52 PM
[Related to spoiler in previous post... ] Aaaaah. This just made me feel better. I love you guys  Kiss

http://www.donationcoder....26284.msg244024#msg244024
181  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: How To Write Unmaintainable Code on: September 28, 2011, 08:48:17 PM
Utterly hilarious. What's also great about that piece is that it serves as a good reminder about annoying practices.

182  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Cross-platform mobile apps development: MonoTouch/MonoDroid, Marmalade, etc. on: September 28, 2011, 04:32:47 PM
I'm looking at the various options for cross-platform mobile apps development, reading forums and various articles (Mobile application development).

The C#/.Net way with MonoTouch/MonoDroid is attractive... but then Marmalade looks nice too. There are also other interesting options like Rhodes.

There are of course several parameters to consider (familiarity of language, price, development speed, etc.). But I don't want to clog the discussion right away...  embarassed

Any opinion/"hands on" experience on the matter ?
183  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Firefox 7 is out on: September 28, 2011, 08:21:45 AM
I've been using Firefox 7 for 24 h (approximately... tongue) now and it does feel snappier. Ram management is also slightly better than before. That said, it's too subjective to take seriously and it #!*&!! broke my roboform extension.

(But why isn't that extension compatible?? Like everybody else, SiberSystems had many weeks notice of the release cycle and nightly builds / beta versions to test compatibility.  tellme)

I'm a long time firefox user, and I've always come back to it after seeing how others weren't really better (if any) and in fact slowed down my work flow. I've just experienced a week of Chrome. Same criticism as Firefox (e.g.: Ram through the roof), not any advantages (apart from the fact that turning extensions On/Off doesn't warrant a restart -- but firefox is getting there), and some annoyances (a few missing extensions I really like).

I might try opera for fun next week... Maybe I'll like it better than 6mths/1y ago.
184  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 28, 2011, 08:02:07 AM
I like this one ! thanks  smiley
185  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 20, 2011, 09:11:32 PM
Counter-studies would be nice.  smiley
In any case, considering the current state of affair, it makes more sense to hypothesise that Chrome has a slightly better performance overall. Conversely, it's probably not that legitimate to unitarily affirm that chrome is not faster than Firefox.
But this isn't the subject of this thread.

I tried a few Google+ extensions and... well, let's say the best is probably yet to be seen.
186  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows 8 Fast boot time ? Check this out... on: September 20, 2011, 02:33:56 PM
You probably saw it, but here's a video of the "Developer's Preview" on a tablet :

Quote
Not unlike an artfully created but tiny-portioned appetizer leading into a flavorful and filling main course that remains stuck in the kitchen, my first hands-on experience with Windows 8 left me eager for what was coming but disappointed with what was set in front of me.

Microsoft lent out Windows 8 tablets to attendees at the end of the Build conference preview yesterday, surprisingly running an earlier version of the in-development operating system than the one that had been demonstrated as functional earlier in the day.

(My emphasis)

http://download.cnet.com/...ok-at-windows-8-hands-on/
187  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 20, 2011, 11:56:09 AM
The version numbers are on page 2 and 4:
http://www.tomshardware.c...tandard-html5,3013-2.html
http://www.tomshardware.c...tandard-html5,3013-4.html
188  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 19, 2011, 11:20:23 PM
Thanks for the link. So at least I wasn't dreaming.

Individual configurations can really mess with performance though. And here Firefox is now okay with Google +... Still, Chrome is a tad faster. cheesy
189  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows 8 Fast boot time ? Check this out... on: September 19, 2011, 11:15:14 AM
@carol : thanks for taking the time to test the Developer's Preview. Nice!

Nothing says if the version used on the video demo is the same as the Developer's Preview, however. At first I thought you were exclusively commenting the "Developer's Preview", which seemed "fair", but then you seemed to be already judging Windows 8... A bit too early, isn't it ?

--

Aren't the tiles UI more for tablets and phones ? In any case I personally like the "tiles" design and I can see some clear advantages to it (compared to, lets say... iOS icon layout, etc.). But don't have the time to develop right now.

As long as it's fast, secure, robust, compatible, flexible enough, still keyboard friendly, and... as long as it doesn't fall down the Apple hole...
190  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 18, 2011, 04:10:51 PM
Ok, the problem is the NoScript add-on. It's the first one I disabled, so it was easy (the usual suspect).

Whitelisting the https://plus.google.com/ address or even enabling all scripts didn't seem to make a difference. Later, I might try to tinker a bit more with it, but for now, with NoScript disabled... Firefox is almost as fast as chrome...  Wink

Now let's see if Google Plus remains fast throughout the week.
191  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 18, 2011, 03:33:46 PM
Thanks for everybody's input on my tangential preoccupations. The general consensus is that firefox should be fast, and it seems reasonable enough (even if Chrome does "feel" faster, for both subjective and objective reasons...  Wink). I'm absolutely not ready to abandon firefox for chrome, so I will later disable some (or all) firefox plugins and re-enable them in little groups and... report back.

I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in these add-ons lies the source of problem.
192  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 17, 2011, 01:48:38 PM
Ok, firefox is faster... That said, Google+ is still slower here on firefox and I'm wondering why. But no big deal... I was asking if other people had the same experience as this is a Google+ related thread.
193  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 17, 2011, 12:33:54 PM
You might be right. But that's not the point. Errr...  I should've put my comment in context : in the context of Google+ and my home, Chrome is faster than Firefox for sure.  smiley (I've usually got no interest in benchmarks of any sort for browsers as it seems like an endless debate with too many parameters involved -- Unless the difference is so blunt that there's no possible ambiguity.)
194  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 17, 2011, 10:55:19 AM
@zridling, @mahesh2k

Chrome is faster than firefox for sure (although chrome once choked on a Google+ page -- this is anecdotal though and probably doesn't tell anything).

In any case Google+ doesn't seem light at all... don't know if Flash and Ajax are the "cause" or if Firefox is. Will do some more testing this week if I have the time. Thanks.
195  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: XP "Automatic Update" / "Restart Later" super annoying dialog on: September 16, 2011, 04:30:54 PM
Hehe.

However, aren't there cases where a count down will be triggered after a while and you computer will restart anyway ? Maybe not... but I think I've experienced that in the past.
196  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google+ Extensions thread on: September 16, 2011, 03:36:50 PM
Could be because of its beta-ish state, but here Google+ is  s - l - o - w.
It's been like that, well... at least since I've started using it.  smiley

I like the way it works etc., but I have to have to wait for ever for pages to finally load. Compared to it, Facebook is a racing car. And that's not a good thing. embarassed



Am I the only one experiencing that slowness ?
197  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: XP "Automatic Update" / "Restart Later" super annoying dialog on: September 16, 2011, 02:52:21 PM
I like the

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  1. net stop "automatic updates"

solution.

I'd get a notification that a reboot is necessary, but it would stop nagging.  After rebooting, automatic updates would be active again as normally configured.

Makes for a nice little one-liner batch file - maybe call it "stopnag.cmd" or something.  And no clicking about in some service management GUI, no mucking about in the register (or even worse, Group Policy editor settings that I can never find again 6 months later).  Best of all worlds as far as I'm concerned.


Yes, it's much better than clicking through a GUI.

However, I like the group policy thing. I've set it up to remind me every 6 hours that I need to reboot.


@Tom : brutal.  Wink But yes, that would work too I suppose.

I was trying to find a solution less drastic than just shutting down the service on a regular basis. Maybe that's because I rarely (want to) reboot. smiley
198  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: XP "Automatic Update" / "Restart Later" super annoying dialog on: September 16, 2011, 01:51:52 PM
Note that group policies aren't updated until a... system restart. smiley so your changes won't be perceptible right away.

You might want to try a GPUPDATE.exe (command line on XP pro) or just stop the automatic update service for a while... until your next reboot.
199  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: XP "Automatic Update" / "Restart Later" super annoying dialog on: September 16, 2011, 01:13:01 PM
For XP Home users, you could also enter these lines in the registry :

http://www.xiven.com/webl...ingYouRestartYourComputer

Quote
Badge (2005-08-15 18:20:18 UTC)

For the guy with Windows XP Home...

1. Copy the text below into Notepad. Save it with a .reg extension. Open and confirm that you want to copy the data into your registry.

==>
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]
"RebootRelaunchTimeoutEnabled"=dword:00000000
"NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers"=dword:00000001
200  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / XP "Automatic Update" / "Restart Later" super annoying dialog on: September 16, 2011, 12:55:57 PM
Yes I'm still using XP.  smiley

I thought this annoyance had been discussed in the past, but i can't find it. Anyway, here are some solutions I found:

XP Automatic Update Nagging

Of both solutions proposed in the article, the second one allows more control over the dialog.

If you're on XP pro, you can just do as described in the article. If you're on XP Home, you won't be able to use the "Group policy settings" editor/dialog (what you could then do is try to hack XP by following these guidelines : Windows XP Home Edition: gpedit.msc (group policy) editing via registry . It's probably not legal though.)

What you can also use WhyReboot? to check out whether you should reboot or not.

And there's this little app that become handy : DontSleep
I don't think it's ever been reviewed here.

Anyhow. smiley
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