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1  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 30, 2015, 12:11:33 AM
Agreed - I have really fond memories of X1 from 2001 through about 2008/9, at which point I began searching for alternatives. Every so often, I give the latest version a whirl, most recently this past fall (October? November?). I still find it quite slow and that it has a noticeable impact on my computer (i7 notebook with 4GB dedicated video memory and 32GB RAM running two SSD drives). Thus, it never lasts long... I use the built in Windows Search for just about everything and have dtSearch installed and updated for more complex searches. Like Armando, I have a license for Archivarius but find that I don't need it with dtSearch installed. I settled on dtSearch for my own use because as much as I love Archivarius I find that it's index get larger and larger over time. Haven't had it installed in a couple of years, though, might be time to revisit it. dtSearch has better previewers as well (or did; don't know about today).

Hi Darwin!  smiley [Sorry, I'm being off topic, but Darwin is certainly my best desktop search friend.]
2  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 30, 2015, 12:11:05 AM
I have probably tried all of the local desktop search tools and nothing compares to X1.
Speed, beautiful previews using Oracle Outside In (acquired from Stellent), stability.

I you read some of the earlier posts, you'll see that X1 isn't that great in terms of precision and "exhaustivity". It has many qualities, but it still misses some important ones.
3  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 19, 2015, 08:51:34 PM
I use this everyday, both at work and at home.

X1's Lightning-Fast Search Software is the Premium Alternative to Windows Desktop and Outlook Search.

X1's award winning, easy-to-use interface simplifies the way business professionals search and act upon desktop files, emails, attachments, SharePoint data, and more.


X1 has shortcomings though. See http://www.donationcoder....=2434.msg373198#msg373198  and http://www.donationcoder....=2434.msg373217#msg373217
4  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 19, 2015, 11:55:53 AM
Agent Ransack does not build or maintain an index, it searches on the fly. So it can be accurate (at least when I've used it) but don't expect results fast if you're looking through a lot of stuff. It's most useful if you can narrow down the best place to look.

Thanks. That's what I thought as I previewed FileLocator many years ago... Was wondering because of the unconditional love it's getting.
I'll stick to indexed content. Updating an index, if done relatively regularly, is fast enough.
5  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 18, 2015, 10:56:54 PM
AgentRansack beats them all
and its free...https://www.mythicsoft.com/

In terms of speed and accuracy for file content search, how does AgentRansack (AKA filelocator) compare to DtSearch, Archivarius and the like ?
6  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 16, 2015, 10:38:37 AM
I rarely use it for search, but it's been a constant drain on resources, so I might just have to disable it permanently. So for me the FileSearchy approach probably makes more sense.

Many desktop search tool can update their index only at specific time or manually ; Archivarius, DtSearch are  2 of them.
7  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 15, 2015, 08:24:20 PM
Does FileSearchy need to index file content (how does the content search work) ?

It looks like it. When I launch it, for a minute or so there is a little indicator in the bottom left corner that says "indexing". Then it says "Index: ready."

Thanks
8  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 14, 2015, 03:03:29 PM
FileSearchy is another one to keep in mind. It can search both file names and their contents and order them by the number of matches ("relevance") and show the density of matches within each document (besides other filtering options). It was a while ago I compared them but I think I preferred FileSearchy to DocFetcher (I think the search was more complete or something along those lines).

Does FileSearchy need to index file content (how does the content search work) ?
9  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 14, 2015, 02:57:37 PM
my tests results so far comparing : Copernic Desktop Search vs. X1 Search vs. Dtsearch vs. Archivarius 3000 (limited to 10,000 files due to trial limit).
I tested them on only : one of my archive folder (year 2008) + one folder containing some emails (.eml) + one folder containing some big pdf files and one .epub file).

Cool. This mirrors my own findings.

Archivarius would probably come close to DtSearch in terms of speed and accuracy. Actually, Archivarius sometimes does a better jobs with more complex expressions. Since you used only one term, not a group of words, Archivarius space and hyphen treatment doesn't show here. That's why I combine both -- DtSearch and Archivarius. (Archivarius was pretty cheap when I bought it... many years ago. Never had to pay any upgrade since then.)

That said,  when it comes to sheer power, DtSearch works best.
Hopefully, one day the DtSearch team will implement some of X1's neat features (DtSearch doesn't allow as many actions on found items as X1 does).

(Note that I still use Windows Desktop search to index Outlook stuff. That's because I can integrate it with Find and Run Robot, which makes searching emails, calendar, etc. a breeze.)
10  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 13, 2015, 06:55:10 PM
Armando,

I have tried X1 with the big pdf file inside your link : http://www.donationcoder....=2434.msg220457#msg220457
Indeed, to my surprise, the pdf is not indexed in full by X1 ! I have tested it into another big pdf file of mine and I have the same result ! ;(
I don't know why but X1 stops indexing pdf files after some number of characters. Maybe 1Million or something else like Google Drive? I don't know !

Also I noticed that X1 did not index some of my yearly subfolders (see above).

I going to test dtsearch ! Wink

See ya Wink

Ah. So those problems are still there...  Too bad X1 developers didn't fix them, otherwise I'd probably still be using it (I like the column filtering UI).
Although... being able to use RegEx to search file content makes DtSearch more precise and powerful (purely as a search tool). I absolutely wouldn't trade RegEx capabilities for a few gadgets and eye candy.

11  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 13, 2015, 06:49:35 PM
Tried it many years ago (2008). It was ok, but too basic for my needs. E.g. not enough options for filtering, couldn't see indexed comments in pdf and doc, etc.
In general it looked like a promising project. It might be much better now (6-7 years later...).
12  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 11, 2015, 04:49:37 PM
In fact after watching some videos about it, I won't try it because I don't use regex for searching keywords, and because the interface seems not very enough user friendly (I don't want to click many times just to do a keyword search !).

Normally searching is straight forward : if DtSearch is opened (I do it quickly with a keyb shortcut) 1- press ctrl+s, 2- type your term and press enter.
Of course, it can be longer if you need to switch DB, select other options than the one you usually need etc.

For simple keyword searching, without any other options, Archivarius would do the trick perfectly. I also use Archivarius to index only metadata on files stored on the network - Archivarius does that better than DTSearch as you can tell Archivarius to index only metadata for certain indexes; AFAIK you can't do that with DtSearch.

About X1 : If X1 can now index word and pdf comments (it did years ago, but wouldn't show the actual comments... not very useful) and  fully index some of the bigger ones (see that post and that one), then it might be worth it...
13  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software? on: January 10, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
it all depends on one's needs. If precision and completeness is key, then it's good to make a bunch of tests and see how it works.

Windows desktop search is okay for casual usage.

For serious research (and after extensive tests : text length, comments in pdf and word documents, meta data, etc.) I use a mix of DtSearch (specially because you can use Reg Ex), Archivarius and Everything.

Why do I mix Archivarius and DtSearch ? Simply because their algorithms for dealing with space and dashes are different and lead to different results.  But if I had to choose one (but I woudn't...), I'd probably go with DtSearch : indexing is fairly quick and there are more search options to get what you want. Archivarius is fast too, but its search syntax isn't as sophisticated. Both could have better interface.

I use everything for filename/foldername search as it's so quick and its search syntax is very flexible and powerful (e.g. Regex can be used).

That said, I always find it weird when Everything is listed side by side with other software like X1, DTSearch or Archivarius. It's not the  same thing at all! Yes, most so called "Desktop search" software will be able to search file names (although not foldernames), but software like Everything won't be able to search file content.


[Edit: about X1 : used to be my favorite, many years ago, but had to drop it because of performance reason and inaccuracy : it wouldn't index bigger documents well enough. See my comments earlier in the thread. To me, accuracy and precision are of absolute importance. If I'm looking for something and can't get to it when I know it's there... and then I'm forced to search "by hand"... There's a BIG problem.]
14  News and Reviews / DonationCoder.com Newsletters / Re: Super-sized Newsletter for Oct 25, 2014 - Codename: NANY 2015 Preppers on: November 05, 2014, 12:22:34 PM
thanks mouser !  smiley
15  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Google Is Not What It Seems on: October 29, 2014, 09:11:49 PM
It was interesting to see him outline how Schmidt has always been politically connected.

About the only thing he didn't say was that Schmidt (and the like) are part of the shadow government.

Found it very interesting too. Schmidt seems like a fascinating character... Without being paranoid, there's something a bit chilling about the Google empire, its links with the political, etc. The impact on present and future world politics, people rights interpretations, the manipulation of world culture, the modification of individuals ways of perceiving right and wrong, ugly and beautiful, etc. ad infinitum. We're in for a great ride,for the better or worse.
16  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Google Is Not What It Seems on: October 29, 2014, 06:26:20 PM
Haven't seen this here, yet. Interesting article, even for the non-paranoid critical eye and potential Assange disliker.

Assange: Google Is Not What It Seems
17  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: DVCS ? (All about Git, Mercurial-Hg and the like...) on: October 20, 2014, 07:13:32 PM
Unfortunately no luck reaching the three under "Lots of screencasts/videos… Here are some interesting URLs with a few fun tricks"...

Your right, seems like the screencasts have been removed.

I haven't been coding in a little while  Sad ...   so... have no experience with Stacked Git. Sounds interresting...
18  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: DVCS ? (All about Git, Mercurial-Hg and the like...) on: October 20, 2014, 06:00:20 PM
Here's a list I put together 2-3 years ago in an earlier post : http://www.donationcoder....25765.msg251306#msg251306
19  DonationCoder.com Software / Clipboard Help+Spell / Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014 on: October 10, 2014, 02:29:11 PM
OK, thanks mouser.  Maybe DCUpdater should then only check those apps that really depend on it (if any) to get updated -- like older versions of your tools.
For all others, when they check if there's an update or not : if they're portable, the users are taken to the website, if they're not, DCUpdater is started, etc. Or something like that... Whatever. Thanks again!
20  DonationCoder.com Software / Clipboard Help+Spell / Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014 on: October 10, 2014, 01:50:31 AM
Thanks mouser. Of course, that's what I thought. Strangely though, DCUpdater offered to update CH+S which is in portable mode.I don't know how that happened.

At that point, I didn't remember my CH+S install was portable, so I agreed to update... but I quickly remembered when the newly CH+S started with an empty DB (as there was now 2 CH+S installed). A first "Oh my... what happened" followed by "hmmm... maybe it just installed a new version somewhere else".
21  DonationCoder.com Software / Clipboard Help+Spell / Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014 on: October 09, 2014, 06:10:34 PM
Can DCUpdater detect CH+S original "installation" folder, even if CH+S is used in "portable mode" ? Just asking as -- without noticing -- I let DCUpdater install a separate instance of CH+S. Uninstalled it right after, of course.

I might have missed something: to update the portable "version", should I just download it and unpack it in the folder where it resides ? Or should I use the updater and just change the installation folder path?

(No rush)
22  DonationCoder.com Software / Clipboard Help+Spell / Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014 on: October 09, 2014, 02:04:06 AM
v2.26.0 is official.

Many thanks! Kiss
23  DonationCoder.com Software / Find And Run Robot / Farr periodically accessing external hard drives on: July 28, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
Hello there.

It's been bugging me for a while, but once every X use, farr freezes and I noticed that my external hard drive starts spinning. If I unplug the hard drive, the problem obviously disappears.

Here are the various folders farr is searching :

[attach]

Doesn't seem to look in (e.g.) Q:\, which is a backup hard drive. No favorites folder or whatever on these backup drives.

Any ideas why farr would want to access external hard drives ?

Thanks!
24  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Taming Windows 8's impolite Taskbar with DDMM on: July 22, 2014, 12:36:26 PM
I've used Taskbar Activate too (beginning of this year), but I found it unreliable depending on the applications running in the background and maybe other factors (?).

I remember running it as admin to circumvent some problems, but was still letting the taskbar show up at inappropriate time, or not showing it all, etc.

It might be something with the combination of services, background applications, etc., if didn't work for me but did for you.
25  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Taming Windows 8's impolite Taskbar with DDMM on: July 21, 2014, 11:39:15 AM
Yes, it can help. But I'd still hit the left screen border too many times.
(In the same spirit though, one thing I do is move the applications toolbars and menus to the left to gain maximum vertical space.)
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