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we need to make an alias pack, complete with icons, for all of these htmlview things.

I'll try to make some when I have more time. What is the latest guideline for the format? (I think I've asked that before but I didn't find that thread now. It would be good if that was made a sticky in the FARR forum part)

When an alias uses htmlview to display non-local pages then an option to use the related website's favicon would make sense (maybe FARR could download a copy of the favicon the very first time the alias runs?)

re: greasemonkey-ish functionality: maybe in the form of a regexp field in the alias setup window where we can specify what in the html to filter out (or alternatively "filter in") before it is displayed?

kartal: I can see the point of custom FARR window resizing and I bet mouser will implement some support for that. But I'm also unsure how useful the very large sizes would be. For large size pages a regular browser is better. FARR can really excel as a browser complement for small pages that load fast, have a specific focus and are used briefly but repeatedly. Like checking the time, the tv schedule, some RSS feed, a weather report, a todo list and so on. Its the same niche that I think projects like Prism have tried to fill.

Also, good idea with ip checking! Here is an even simpler page:

igo http://checkip.dyndns.org/
1000>>>ip>->Internal Surf to display WAN ip | htmlviewurl http://checkip.dyndns.org/>+>^ip$
display your WAN ip
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You, a small dinosaur, run from left to right, passing various obstacles (inanimate and other) and trying to get to safety before you are buried by a wall of lava and smoke. Made in retro style big pixel graphics. And there is an online multiplayer mode!
http://www.pixeljam.com/dinorun/
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I think both the alt+enter suggestion and the lists suggestion are good. Can they coexist? If the list suggestion is implemented it would then be good if FARR could graphically mark all items that, when run, will use the internal browser. For example, they could get a special (light) background color.

[update:]

Good idea herojoker!  I was about to post a similar thread but now I'll stick to this.

Note that many webpages have special versions for mobile devices, made for a smaller screen and with less clutter. The ones I've tried work great in FARR.

To keep it functional, I'll stick to this four line format:

igo URL
(custom alias)
description of the page
(screencap)

...where line 2 and 4 is optional


igo http://exacttimenow.com/
1000>>>time>->time | htmlviewurl http://exacttimenow.com/ /ICON=icons\farr\core-internet_www.ico>+>^time$
large clock with exact time/date
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igo m.rememberthemilk.com
online todo list, mobile version
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igo http://www.google.com/rea...boing.net/boingboing/iBag
read any feed via google reader: http://www.google.com/reader/m/view/feed/XXXXXXXX where XXXXXXXX is the feed URL.
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update:
igo http://www.mailinator.com...n8r.jsp?b=somerandomemail
1000>>>mailinator>->Internal Surf to Mailinator $$1 | htmlviewurl http://www.mailinator.com/widget/mailin8r.jsp?b=$$1>+>^(?:maili|mailin|mailina|mailinat|mailinato|mailinator) (.*)
check disposable email (note: to use mailinator with some privacy, pick a long, obscure adress and use its alternative inbox name when you sign up for forums etc)
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igo http://embed.mibbit.com/?...;channel=%23donationcoder
1000>>>irc>->Internal Surf to mibbit efnet #donationcoder | htmlviewurl http://embed.mibbit.com/?...%23donationcoder>+>^irc$
use #donationcoder IRC channel at efnet via the mibbit.com widget
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I have a folder.jpg cover image file in almost all my mp3 music album folders.

Maybe a plugin can be made that utilizes the new HTML output mode to make searching for a mp3 album much cooler!

Example:

the user inputs "mp3 beatl".
FARR searches some folders for subfolders that
(1) contain the searchphrase "beatl" and
(2) contains a "folder.jpg" file
FARR displays the folder.jpg for the matches in HTML mode at some set size (200x200 for example), in this case some beatles albums.
When the users runs a match, the corresponding album is sent to the default mp3 player (either by running the related m3u file or sending all mp3 files in the folder to the player)

edit:
This plugin would involve these steps I think:

1. user inputs "pluginalias searchstring"
2. FARR feeds matching folder paths to plugin
3. plugin loops over each match:
if it contains folder.jpg, append that to a html with a link to .m3u
4. FARR displays the html in Html View Mode (showhtml HTMLCONTENT)

Does it seem possible to do based on the javascript plugin system? (if so then I'll give a shot at making a crude version of it myself)

[edit:]

New FARR release - great great great Mouser! 

It will be really interesting to see what cool ways to use the html view mode that people will come up with.

edit: viewing HTML (webpages) in FARR is really addictive! After some quick testing it seems to me that many mobile phone formatted versions of webpages work especially well with a small FARR window. The pages load lightning fast and they often stick to the essential information (few ads, no large logos at the top of the page, no or little scrolling needed, and so on...)   

Some regular pages are also minimal enough to fit well into a small FARR window. For example, try: igo http://exacttimenow.com/
(as a custom alias: 1000>>>time>->time | htmlviewurl http://exacttimenow.com/ /ICON=icons\farr\core-internet_www.ico>+>^time$ )

HKSFV
made by the now vanished big-o-software:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.big-o-software.com/
still available here:
http://www.download.com/H...3000-2248_4-10157349.html
and still the best tool for very quick sfv/md5 creation/checking. But also still somewhat buggy.

Wow vitalyb! Cam-Trax looks amazing! I'm almost buying a webcam on the fly I hope it gets released really soon.

From their webpage blog ( http://www.camspace.com/blog/ ):

We have decided to release only free versions of the product. We will never charge users for the software.
We are currently getting ready to release a BETA version for Windows. We can’t talk about a specific time period, but soon. Very soon.
A version for Mac is on our to-do list. Linux is as well.
We are currently a small garage operation and are overwhelmed by the attention and excitement our video created. We promise to grow to the challenge as soon as possible and make good on our plans.

I think it makes sense to start with a very basic textfile search capability first and then expand it if and when demand occurs.
Two rather non-complex systems could be:

1. comma separated data. Example:

tag1 data1 data2 data3
tag2 data4 data5 data6

2. blank line separated data. Example:

tag1
data1
data2
data3

tag2
data4
data5
data6


When the user inputs "info tag1" FARR would output "data1 data2 data3" (or "data1 \n data2 \n data3")

Mousers example ("info phone hospital") in comparison adds one level of complexity. But how often is that needed? I suspect that it for much lookup usage is enough to output all the info related to a "first level tag" i.e. "info hospital" would display adress, phone number, email etc in FARR. Two drawbacks with the more complex example is that the user must memorize all the second level categorizes and must create all his/her new data in a very well formed and consistent way. I definitely prefer something less complex and less (human) memory hungry.

I've always kept the secondary monitor in the default position so I wasn't aware that tv_out was forcing it to be positioned to the right, but you're right, it does. It's by no means a planned feature. I'll check if there's some nice way to solve this by tweaking the AHK function I'm using.

As for the name issue that vitalyb brought up, I think shortening is the way to go: FindRun. Easy to pronounce, easy to remember, and it doesn't lose much meaning from the current name, because I'm not really sure what functionality in FARR is supposed to be the "robot" part.

Another alternative would be some animal-ish name like Firefox, Thunderbird, RSSowl... The hard task is to find a nice, catchy sounding and vacant animal.

[...] we need more sites for informed comparative reviews rather than popularity polls.

Agreed!

Just to be clear, the "Best Application Launchers?" post on Lifehacker is a part of their ongoing Hive Five series. It's a two step (two posts) thing:
1. a call for contenders asks users to vote for any app in some category in the comments
http://lifehacker.com/tag...five-call-for-contenders/
2. the Lifehacker team picks the top five (vote count is a strong, or perhaps even the only, factor here) and posts a poll.
http://lifehacker.com/tag/hive-five/

So as things are still at stage 1, let's hope that FARR makes it to the top five!

Also, an idea on how to factor experience with multiple programs into polls: ask users to vote FOR their favourite program from a limited list AND at the same time ask them to vote AGAINST one or more of the other listed programs but only if they have tried it and found it less good than their favourite. Use the negative votes to discount the positive votes in some way.

Nice minireview AEngineer!
Google spreadsheets can be used as a primitive database for google maps (or something like that). It's very easy to set up through this wizard:
http://gmaps-samples.goog...pwizard/makecustommap.htm

Hi relequestual, sorry for the late reply - I saw your post just now. Thanks for the heads up and for contacting them. 

To anyone reading this that might be hesitant about using tv_out: All apps made in autohotkey ( autohotkey.com ) seem to run the risk of ending up as false positives in some anti-spyware tool somewhere. See the autohotkey forums for numerous examples. There's not much I can do about that. I can only emphasize that there is no spyware at all in tv_out. The tv_out .zip file contains the source so anyone who is hesitant can check the source and compile their own version if they want to.

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Sabot, one thing you can do already with FARR: for each piece of information, create an empty textfile and put the information in the filename.

Example:
Smith, John , imaginary street 45 , Town , State , phone=12345 mobile=123456789 smith @domain.com.txt

Put all such files in some folder and set FARR to only search that folder. If the information is in the right format then a script could be made that autogenerates one such .txt file for each piece of information


Mouser, I just thought of a way to read textfiles in the FARR results window (not open them externally in notepad et al):

1. make a javascript plugin that when given a filepath as parameter parses that file and displays it in the results window

example: "plugin_name C:\folder\file.txt "

2. setup a custom hotkey that puts "plugin_name NNN" in the editbox, where NNN is the path of the selected match

To use it, we would:
1. do a regular search for a filename, like "file.txt"
2. select the target file in the results list (not needed if first match)
3. press the hotkey (shift+enter is an good candidate for hotkey)

I think we have the plugin tools already but do we have the path of the currently selected match as a variable for a FARR hotkey to use?

Also, such a hotkey wouldn't need to be global as the current FARR hotkeys are

edit: the Virtual Launch Strings "showfile" could also do this, right? So no js plugin is needed. The steps would be: hotkey is called, puts "SomeAlias SomeSelectedFilePath" in editbox, SomeAlias is set to do "showfile SomeSelectedFilePath", which displays the contents of the file in the results box. If only the hotkey could read and send the selected file's path.

Good find mouser! The Armed with Wings graphics are beautiful in their minimal way. I'm always amazed how great and diverse the in browser games are becoming. I hope we'll see more in browser multiplayer games though. For example, plain race games like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Off_Road seem very doable from a technical point of view. Can anyone recommend any such good in browser multiplayer games? Games that don't require some unusual browser add-ons I should add. And sorry if I took this thread astray, but hey I'm still on the online games theme at least :-)

Hi Curt, I would also suggest InfraRecorder http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/ . It's the only burning tool that I've used on windows for some time now. It's small, quick, clean and up to date. There is also a portable version:
http://portableapps.com/a...es/infrarecorder_portable

If you really want to go back to Nero you can download Nero Lite http://updatepack.nl/ and use your licence key on that. It is significantly smaller. It seems to exist in a legal grey zone but has been around for quite some time so I guess Nero doesn't mind that much.

I haven't tried any of these programs but I have Mnemosyne and Anki on my "to try" list. And one more that hasn't been mentioned yet: Opencards , http://www.opencards.info/

"Customize Your Dual Monitor Wallpaper with DisplayFusion"
http://lifehacker.com/sof...-displayfusion-298111.php

Wallpapers that work well with DisplayFusion: http://www.mandolux.com/ (click archive)

"Make the Most of Your Dual Monitors"
http://lifehacker.com/sof...-dual-monitors-317479.php

I see your point. Other things being equal I also prefer solutions that don't use GUI controls and require keyboard monopoly during the processing. I'm not so sure if it's worth the double work in this case though. I mean, MPC creates each contact sheet pretty quickly. An hour long video only takes 15-20 seconds. So 50 such videos can be processed in around 15 minutes. That's just a coffee break. While some might need to process many, many more files, I suspect that would be a one time thing in most cases (i.e. to process all videos in their archive). For a one time batch a wait of an hour or two is probably acceptable to most. And once the archive is processed to then wait for 15 minutes every month or two while processing new files is no biggie either I'd suspect (that's roughly the pace at which I record stuff with my DVB-T TV card at least). Or maybe this is just the lazy part of me rationalizing

Jim, I had forgotten to include the .icl in the last tv_out.zip. I reuploaded a complete .zip just now.

[ExtDesk]

ExtDesk   v080419
ExtDesk helps you control the primary desktop from the extended desktop.
ExtDesk has a button for opening the desktop folder and a screen that tracks the mouse for easy navigation on the primary desktop.
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more info and download here: http://nod5.dcmembers.com/extdesk.html

This is another small program that I made because I needed it myself (the Use Case is loosely inspired by real events ) This first version has mostly been testdriven on a single system so all feedback on how this works on your systems is very much appreciated. 

Cool! I had no idea MPC had that. But while a lot of controls are available, the "save thumbnails" actions doesn't seem to be one of them:
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Another reason against switching the script to the web interface is that all users would have to activate/deactivate the web server before using VideoContactSheet.

Does MPC Home Cinema have more controls?

4wd: When I made the first version of the script I searched for alternative ways to control MPC but did not find any. After that I just stuck to the keyboard input method since it worked. But if there's a better way then I'll give it a try.  I'm not sure what you mean by "HTML control" though. I can't find anything that seem to describe that: http://www.google.com/sea...=en&start=10&sa=N . Can you point me to some relevant page?

lanux: I've done this with a script that navigates the GUI for some time but have since then been on the lookout for some cleaner way. And now a working function was posted to the autohotkey forum. I only had to intersect that into my previous code and voila. The autohotkey forum is a great place BTW - it has code snippets for doing almost anything.

Deozaan: Glad that it works. Good call about it running immediately after setup. I updated tv_out accordingly:
v080418: running tv_out.exe directly (=setup) does not toggle extended desktop on/off, only desktop shortcut does that (thanks Deozaan)
http://nod5.dcmembers.com/tv_out.html
EDIT: 
080419: fixed a small variable error from 080418