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126  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Preloaded spyware, courtesy Lenovo on: February 21, 2015, 09:41:24 PM
I think I stand by this. I am making my own problems with upgrade woes but my current comp is custom built that we did as a project and when it's your buddy building it you know generally there's no weird stuff (initially!) on there.

I haven't found a practical way to assemble appropriate notebook PCs, but for desktop / server, have almost always gone with custom.


Same here.  It just isn't practical to assemble a laptop from what I've seen.  The desktop/server- because of the ability to choose individual parts- is practical for a build.  Laptops haven't seemed to reach that level yet.

And I do think it's only laptops that were affected by this...
127  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Preloaded spyware, courtesy Lenovo on: February 21, 2015, 01:27:43 PM
Are you saying that you overwrite their OS with the installation media that comes with the hardware? 
If so, do they supply CDs, or do you burn them, or have another source?  If from Lenovo, these are clean unlike the PCs they sent out?

Just want to have a clearer explanation.
Clearly overwriting with Mint is another story.

Steven

Well, from a corporate standpoint, they have images that they have created that are licensed and install the exact same image onto each category (developer, analyst, etc) of user.

Personally, I don't buy laptops that don't include actual installation media that is certified bare bones windows.  In the case of those that don't provide the same, in many cases they provide computers without the operating system.

Some include restoration partitions that already have the crapware in them.

Of course, I haven't bought a laptop in years... so not sure if it's possible to buy a mainstream without the OS now.  But in that case, you'd have to purchase the OS separately and install it.  I had to do that on my last laptop.
128  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Preloaded spyware, courtesy Lenovo on: February 20, 2015, 11:48:07 AM
If you overwrite, you're fine.  I received that link from my IT department (we use Lenovo's), and they do the same thing.  When we get them in, they overwrite with a standard image.
129  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: email notifiers (whew) on: February 20, 2015, 10:31:49 AM
I use Checker Plus for Gmail (and for Calendar), and it works well.

http://jasonsavard.com/checkerPlusForGmail

I've not paid for it thus far, but am considering it if that gives any indication of my level of endorsement.  But that's more of a level of comfort of it just works.

The only issue I've had with it thus far has been the fact that when I login via mstsc vs directly, the notification doesn't adjust very well unless I close the browser and re-open it.
130  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Preloaded spyware, courtesy Lenovo on: February 20, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
You can check to see if you're affected: https://filippo.io/Badfish/
131  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Microsoft OneNote - some experiential Tips & Tricks on: February 19, 2015, 08:06:02 AM
The manner in which I use it day to day is to have it on my secondary screen, partially transparent so I can see the actual apps on the second screen beneath it without switching back and forth.  As it just displays images, you can change up the display size also in order to make it as small as you want, and therefore take up as little space as you want.  I need to get back to it, because I was going to add the option of a global hot key to advance the image, which I've found would be useful.

Just an idea that I thought to posit when I saw your pop-up screen.
132  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Cell Phone Questions on: February 18, 2015, 04:09:27 PM

I'm not one of the cool kids... what does that mean?
133  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Microsoft OneNote - some experiential Tips & Tricks on: February 18, 2015, 04:08:10 PM
^ you might also do this with ROT, so you don't have to use a hotkey or dismiss it.  Just a shameless plug smiley
134  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Cell Phone Questions on: February 18, 2015, 01:50:15 PM
My main questions were answered...

Are there phones that can be used only when necessary?  No

Are there bare-bones phones?  No camera, no touchscreen, just a phone?  No

Those answers are incorrect.  You just have to look at more "senior-friendly" phones.

You can also take a look at Consumer Cellular: https://www.consumercellular.com/Info/Plans

Quote

Voice Plans   Minutes   Monthly Fee
Anywhere Casual   0   $10.00   Select
If you rarely use a cell phone but want the comfort and safety of owning one, then our Anywhere Casual plan is the one for you. Under this plan, you pay the lowest monthly fee possible ($10.00) and only pay for minutes if you use them (25ยข). Most customers on this plan use 20 cell phone minutes or less per month, and sometimes none at all. This plan is ideal for emergency or casual use. Of course, you may upgrade to a different plan at any time.

Not sure if there are any other phone services out there like that... but it comes out to what Mouser was saying earlier... about $120 a year.  They don't have phones without a camera... but it doesn't have any of the other stuff you didn't want.  And they have bring your own phone plans.

And tracfone has phones that are even more barebones than that... surprised that it wasn't mentioned.

http://www.tracfone.com/p...3280P_EN&title=LG3280

But in general, in order to not have to use a phone for more than 90 days, it's going to cost you a bit over $100 a year.
135  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Destroying your hard drive is the only way to stop this super-advanced malware on: February 18, 2015, 10:45:08 AM
Yes. Mr. Bond and all. But will Americans still be making jokes about this five years from now ? Two years before when I arrived here for school I thought I would like to stay. I am less sure I want to now. What is done by some in your country good name is terrible. And most here wish to not know about this if they can. I have concerns about saying things like this since I am a guest here. I did not feel that way before. Your game has changed for all of you. And my self too.

Hello Mr. Vortext.  Let me introduce you to Mr Basement.  It's an unsavory place, but we discuss such concerns there over your favorite alcoholic beverage (to numb the pain).

I've found it's best only to visit... and not to stay (per the Read In in that section).  But it is useful for discussion, though some choose not to go there as this isn't the purpose they visit DC for (or other ... reasons).

You're always welcome, however- here and there.  Grin

(and as an aside, sometimes, humor is the only medicine for such truths)
136  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Destroying your hard drive is the only way to stop this super-advanced malware on: February 18, 2015, 08:43:59 AM
That's convoluted and asinine enough to be believable. It does, however, have one major flaw. Nobody in the intelligence business thinks that far ahead. Technically, you could say we have no intelligence agencies - just counter intelligence, and only in the most literal sense.

BWAHAHAHAHAAH~!

Yep. Pretty much! cheesy



What renegade said.  And I bow to the master.  I mean... master of intelligence.  I mean... counter to the counter-intelligence.

 Grin Thmbsup
137  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Destroying your hard drive is the only way to stop this super-advanced malware on: February 18, 2015, 07:21:31 AM
On the "good" side, we may get to see our first real world Bond villains.  ohmy

But having Bond villains without Bond seems a tad bit counterproductive.  tellme
138  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: two-factor entrance authentication on: February 17, 2015, 10:05:27 AM

The main application under consideration is currently an ecommerce application, that runs under Wordpress.

Shortly, that will be replaced by a dedicated ecommerce platform that is hosted on the server, without the Wordpress middle layer, written largely in PHP/Zend. A more robust ecommerce implementation (something that the Wordpress program, WooCommerce, tries to get around with a gazillion addons.)  Magento is the more robust one and the techie programmer support is stronger.

Both have 1000s of installations.

I would caution against the idea that just because something has 1000s of installations that it is secure.  If you are really concerned about such, it needs to be a continual consideration.

"the fact that your server is not hardened against such attempts."

We recently switched to Nexcess as a host largely because they seem to be very attuned to techie stuff, quickly.
This has worked out very well.

If you have confidence in your host as far as that aspect, it's one of the best lines of defense.
139  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: two-factor entrance authentication on: February 17, 2015, 09:03:18 AM
Again, is this for a specific application?  If someone hacks your site, it is either because of a hack of your administrative interface, of the software you run on the site, or the fact that your server is not hardened against such attempts.  As to how it's done, it really depends on the site itself, and what you want to secure.

As an example, this is a guide to two-factor authentication in Wordpress.  You can also do the same on Wordpress itself.

As you can see, these approaches are rooted in the software you want to secure.  It's not a general application.

cpanel itself does not have two-factor authentication, though there has been discussion for quite a while, and apparently they are going to start working on it soon.

http://features.cpanel.ne...-authentication-is-a-must

You can secure FTP by two-factor authentication, but how it's done and if it's possible really depends on the FTP Server software in use.  Apache is also able to be secured by two-factor authentication.  Any of these methods, however, are going to require an SSL cert as ath alluded to above, which is the reason that they are not in use in most places.

Then the bad guys can sign in.  One thing they do is place some sort of malware into index.html, which then
affects future entrants to the site.
That are 2 statements, totally not related to each other.
If anybody, bad or good, can log into your site then why/how do they get to change something like index.html? I've never been able to achieve that, neither as an admin nor as a regular user.
Most webservers require a separate, (s)ftp connection to the server for up/down-loading of website related files.

Actually, sometimes bad and/or insecure code can allow a hack of some vector to allow changing of files on the server without the use of an (s)ftp connection.  That's why I've been asking for what application...
140  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: I've not been happy with Macrium Reflect Free, and perhaps their paid versions.. on: February 16, 2015, 10:11:51 PM
First, and because of my style, I've got enemies, over here, perhaps less so, but in particular over there, and some users read and/or post here and there. It's not only one user who I could identify, it's also some more user(s) writing here and there, and which I could NOT yet "identify" (= in the sense of knowing this avatar here is that avatar there), and such a situation triggers paranoid (over-) reaction to some point.


This is not the first time that you've alluded to the same.  I don't think you have "enemies" here.  I'm not sure what other site you're talking about, but here, we have disagreements- some heated.  But we have a first rule of respect, and the second of community.  We respect each others' rights to have opinions, and the community's right to have reasonable conversations.  Which is the reason that the basement was created in all honesty.  And because of that, everyone is a member of this extended community, and there's no place IMO for enemies in such a construct.  It's counter productive to said goal.  Which leads into your second point:

As said, I had understood you in the line of "your thread should not have been created in the first place". Then for the absence of advertizing. Now let's get serious, please.

I am *totally* confused by this line.  Can you unpack it a bit?

The very first element to advertizing is traffic: done. Second point to consider: qualified traffic. Do we need to discuss this, for DC? There are not THAT many such fora in the web, just some "general pc help" fora, and then those "technics" sites, often offsprings from pc magazines: No pc experience sharing.

I don't know what percentage of readers here do also write here, to some notable extent, but I bet you've (/ dare I say, we've?) got a LOT of readers, and they certainly come back with some regularity, because of the non-irrelevancy of our posts.

So what? Can't we all grasp that all prerequisites for good advertizing revenue are present? Or is general traffic only so-so? But why then is DC very high in google's list for every subject that's treated here? mouser, why not start a thread giving some statistics out? Thus, I convene, you first would need some figures, then only we could start discussing if it's worthwile to try to up those numbers, and in case, how to do that. Your next step would be, identify competing ad prices: How much "coverage" sw developers and such would get here, by advertizing here, and at which cost? In other words: Is DC's reach to small so that advertisers would either to have too high ad prices, or that advertising revenues would stay minimal anyway (i.e. by applying prices in accordance with alleged "minimal" reach)?

Then, there are some sites getting money from bringing in contact developers and customers; some such sites do make TOO much money from this, so there should be some possibilities in that, too: There's some room for a site that would take its share if that's a more decent share.

The point of it, at it's root, is the subtitle of DC's banner, i.e. For Software Connoisseurs, or more to the point, in my opinion, for Software Enthusiasts.

DC in my experience, is a lot like the BBS of days gone by.  Where the reason for doing it was the love of doing it.  At that time, there were not many options for even *making* money off such an enterprise, so it came not into being for that reason... but for people with similar interests to connect and communicate.  At the root, that's what DC is about.  So even the talk of the relative value of content or page views or monetization of the site is counter again to that idea of community and sharing of ideas.  The value of the content to the site is that it is content to help others.  Not in page ranks or page views or any such thing.  I've never even looked at or though about such, personally.

And that brings us full circle to the talks about your posts.  People aren't attacking you in the least about your posts, at least as far as I've seen and as much as I know.  It's more suggestions because your posting style tends to make the content that you put forth less digestible to the masses.  So they're suggestions as to how to make them better, and you can take them to heart in such a way... or not.  Your choice.

Personally, I enjoy reading a wide variety of opinions and experiences, even if I might not necessarily agree or relate.  But I do so from a perspective of entertainment and fun.  And when a post is more effort than that, I tend not to read.  My loss, certainly.  But that's also my choice.  And I don't think I'm alone in that approach.

These are just my observations and my .02- hopefully you will take them in the vein that they are intended.
141  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: two-factor entrance authentication on: February 16, 2015, 09:57:26 PM
I'm not really getting the point.  There's already 2 factor in a lot of places that you can enable.  In many cases, you even use a hardware key or a security program similar to a hardware key.

Is this for a specific application?
142  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies or films you've seen lately on: February 16, 2015, 03:38:41 PM
Just watched Gone Girl.



Great story, though it focused a bit overmuch on the sensationalist and titillating rather than emphasizing the substance of the story.  Less is more, in my opinion.  And that seems to be a lost art.

But I would recommend it, with a definite caveat that it is on the more harsh end of the R scale.

143  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: I've not been happy with Macrium Reflect Free, and perhaps their paid versions.. on: February 16, 2015, 01:22:09 PM
Ath, you are a "supporting member", whatever that means in dollars; my AHK intro alone did get almost 14,000 reads, and is third on Google for "autohotkey tutorial", so we can assume 12,000 or more hits on that came from the outside, i.e. I, here and there, bring quite some "traffic" and "coverage" to this forum. "Too long - didn't read" - perfect, but then, isn't there good practice to only be allowed to write wherever you first will have done some reading, to begin with?

I'm worth more than your possible 5 "supporting" crap dollars, Ath, so refrain from worthless meta communications and get back to our basics, which is about sharing experience, insight and ideas. And if you're up to spread fascism, outlinersoftware.com would be your ideal forum.

Tomos, "but the thread seems to be already fairly off-topic" - what did you mean? A thread originally about MR, and which then originated much more valid info, of which in part I'm thankful, and which in part I contributed myself? No problem, right?

Or did you want to express that I should not have created this thread to begin with, and/or should not have been ALLOWED to create this thread, i.e. it being off-topic for this forum? Whatever, from Ath's post citing yours, you very well see how dangerous it is to not speak plain English and hope people will CORRECTLY read between your lines.

Anyway, "the rewritten title" is not correct, "a rewritten title" might be subject to discussion in case.

That's a bit... less about the way that this community is structured, i.e. direct attacks aren't really a thing here.  Your opinion is of course yours to say whatever with... as is his.  But attacking the messenger is definitely a no-no around here.  Structure your arguments to support your point, and let your content speak for itself.

And if you're talking about the relative use of what is 'normal' to see the value of content... that doesn't really fly around here.  14k hits... for what?  No ads, no redirects, struggles to keep the lights on because of that lack.  Everyone is considered equally valuable around here.  And any titles are for a thanks for help more than a value statement of their membership.

(an other vein... it seems rather strange that you became so vitriolic, when they were talking about steven's post, not yours)
144  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 14, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
^ You are the man!  Thanks!
145  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 14, 2015, 11:01:07 AM
Rather, it's, "Let's hope they don't notice we're installing something we have nothing to do with so we can profit off them while infecting them with mal/spyware."

Agreed. However they do now offer a - granted quite poorly documented - setting that globally refuses the install of any/all "sponsor offers".

What is that setting?  I have to have Java for work, so would love to know about that.
146  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 12, 2015, 09:40:35 PM
The crapware that gets bundled with things like Java is a completely different discussion, because that stuff does get detected and removed by anti-spyware.

It actually doesn't.  The ask toolbar isn't considered to be malware, at least by any of the scanners that I use.  At most, it's flagged as questionable.  The official Java installer installs the Ask toolbar.  And Oracle is just as large as the other players. And no one says anything about it.

Also, Oracle didn't make the Ask toolbar, while Apple did make iTunes and Siri, Google did make the Google toolbar and the Chrome browser, and Microsoft did make Cortana, and a ton of other crap that I can't recall at this moment.

While Oracle can be blamed for bundling questionable software and with the way they present it in their installer, they can't be blamed for what the Ask toolbar actually contains or does.

Should anti-malware prevent you from installing Java or deactivate/remove Java if it is found on your system? Or just the Ask toolbar, which is not Oracle's product? That is the difference.

I really don't think there's a difference.  They made a *deal* to bundle it.  Which means they make revenue from it.  Which makes them culpable in my opinion.  Sourcing the product is just semantics.
147  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 12, 2015, 07:52:18 PM
When was the last time you saw Spybot S&D or Malwarebytes flag and offer to remove iTunes, Quicktime, Google toolbar, etc. And what is the likelihood that they will ever offer to deactivate/neuter Cortana for you?

If they ever did try, I'd expect Microsoft would simply remove them instead. Probably with their Malicious Software Removal Tool which runs as part of the regular "security updates" maintenance cycle.

You can get heavy with 3rd-party apps that try to do things you don't like. But it's considerably harder to do that with something the OS developer included and billed as "a feature" for their OS. Try to remove something like that and you're suddenly in that awkward position where you run the risk being classified as malware yourself. Microsoft has the last word about what is and what isn't malware. It's their operating system. They own it. So they get to define the parameters.


Which was another point of control built into their 'kind' offer of anti-virus software...  undecided
148  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 12, 2015, 07:37:09 PM
The crapware that gets bundled with things like Java is a completely different discussion, because that stuff does get detected and removed by anti-spyware.

It actually doesn't.  The ask toolbar isn't considered to be malware, at least by any of the scanners that I use.  At most, it's flagged as questionable.  The official Java installer installs the Ask toolbar.  And Oracle is just as large as the other players. And no one says anything about it.
149  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 12, 2015, 06:40:40 PM
So, what does that mean? It's ok when a large corporation creates software that spies on you and collects data for marketing purposes, but not ok when smaller companies create less advanced software, capable of collecting less info, for the same purpose?

*cough* Java *cough*

It has been annoying me for a while that it can bundle the ask toolbar with it by default selected, and no one calls them on it...

I am talking more about things like the Ask toolbar, itself. Why is that considered unacceptable malware/spyware/adware and things like Cortana, Siri, and Google Now are not? There was quite a few applications in the first generation of this type of software that were quite useful and users went out of their way to install, that collected data on it's users for marketing purposes (Go!Zilla, Flashget, Copernic Shopper, Gator, ZipUpTheWeb, WeatherBug, etc). Why is the new generation of big corporate spyware considered acceptable and not held up to the same standards as the old stuff was subjected to, and that stuff from smaller companies is still subjected to?

Well, yes, the ask toolbar is bad.  But it is even worse in that it's being bundled with Java.  Like all of these companies are in bed with each other to erode the consciousness of the average consumer to the point where this kind of thing is commonplace and accepted.
150  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: The return of Clippy! Microsoft says more about their digital assistant Cortana on: February 12, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
So, what does that mean? It's ok when a large corporation creates software that spies on you and collects data for marketing purposes, but not ok when smaller companies create less advanced software, capable of collecting less info, for the same purpose?

*cough* Java *cough*

It has been annoying me for a while that it can bundle the ask toolbar with it by default selected, and no one calls them on it...
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