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Find And Run Robot / Re: Another FARR similar app - Executor
« on: August 24, 2008, 12:17 AM »
But speaking of Remember The Milk (to add some more off topic stuff to this thread), you'll soon be able to add tasks to RTM from within FARR, and much more.... If you don't mind downloading 6 megs of data you can check out a peek preview of what I'm working on here. Please ignore the ugly icons, they'll (have to) change.

Wow phitsc your plugin is looking awesome. I might have to start using RTM just so i can use it :).

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a fancy grid mode is coming soon for plugin writers.
:Thmbsup::Thmbsup:

It would be great if FARR has more visual settings like
-Adjustable icon size(we have only 2 sizes now)

Maybe FARR could automatically size the icon based on the result row height.

There have been many threads regarding FARR's sexyness and there is no question imo that it pushes some ppl away before they are able to discover just how great the software is and what it can do. I also think that the attractiveness of an app is not always just about colors/backgrounds etc but also about how easy it is to just pick up and use and how it tells you where you are and where you need to go to do something.

Here are a few snippets from different threads on ideas that i have suggested:

Would it be possible to add another set of "Report Columns" options in the display tab for the large icon slide display style. This way you would have a "Report Columns" for each display style and you could choose different columns to use for each style. I think this would work well especially with the functionality to automatically switch display styles. I find myself using the large icons for regular app launching etc where i wouldnt normally need to view a lot of the other columns however when it automatically switches to the small icon report for file/dir results, as well as a lot of the plugin results, i would like to see additional columns.

Likewise in the Fonts tab you could have the option to set the font/size for the other rows besides the "Name" row when using the large icon style. Being able to change the fonts would imo be very helpful in making the "Name" row more prominent and distinguishable from any other rows the user has specified.

3. With regards to the interface i think one nice option would be to add an icon to the left of the query box right above the search results which would reflect the icon from the first search result or the current alias/plugin you are using. I think this allows you visually to identify the result you are looking for quicker. I see this as a middle ground between using the small icon report, which i use as i prefer having more results with a larger query font, and the large icon slide.

While we're on the subject it would be great if FARR had jpg and png support. I find them alot easier to find then icons and it would also open up a couple of other interesting options :D.

A lot of this stuff doesn't really add to the functionality of FARR but does a great deal for its usability and appeal which along with some of those videos Mouser mentioned will definitely increase FARR's adoption rate.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 21, 2008, 11:43 AM »
You could also try Redemption http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/ which is something i used a while back and seemed to worked well.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 20, 2008, 04:44 PM »
Great new features, must have missed this. The Notes idea is also a really cool one and makes a lot of sense.

Also still have my fingers crossed for the /email feature 8).

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Hotkeys & FarrQuickView
« on: August 18, 2008, 05:37 PM »
Sounds good. I will look out for it in the next release  8).

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I made a folder in the Plugins directory, named it "GooglePlus", and extracted the files into it. Shut down FARR, and restarted it; FARR won't start, I get this message:

"Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
---------------------------
Runtime Error!

Program: C:\Program Files\FindAndRunRobot\FindAndRunRobot.exe

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information."

Help?

Thanks


hmm, not sure what this could be. Did you install any other plugins at the same time? The plugin isn't in C++ and is pretty straight forward which leads me to believe it might be something bizarre going on with FARR??

Perhaps try reinstalling the plugin and rebooting.let me know if that works.

s.newave: I would like to replace the books search w/ blogs search. Can you please tell me how?

When creating the plugin I had google blogs in there but for some reason it never worked well at all. Searching was unusably slow and inconsistent from googles side. Will look into again when i get a chance. In the interim try the "site:<blogsite>" search operator which i have had really good results with.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Search and Alias history
« on: August 15, 2008, 01:24 PM »
considering history i think we both agree that :
FARR should save more than 20 entries
it should be possile to save history items in different history files/section
those different history files/section should be searchable via aliases (^gh (.*) dosearch historys \HISTORY=google $$1)

sounds good. history size should be user specified for each history group/section similiar to "Max. Files to keep in launch history"

drop-down list vs. result list:
though I originally thought it more logical to include search history items in the result list I now also think an additional autocompletion drop-down makes sense, because otherwise history entries interfere with results from the alias. Especially wiht aliases like Table Data Search that use html result panel. I use it to display telefon numbers. I type "tds someverylengthyname" and hit enter (to add it to the history!). Next time I type "tds s" I would like to be offered "tds someverylengthyname" as autocompletion. But the resultlist is not available! And even where it is available it might be a hard decision which score to asign to history items.
Furthermore I think automcompletion should work from the first letter on: I type "t" and it offers "tds" (last alias starting with t) and "tds someverylengthyname" (last search string entered starting with t).

I think this is again a different thing that you and nitrix are suggesting. I am suggesting adding a "history" list to display previous results for the specific cases i mentioned above. I think you guys are referring to an autocomplete system that works "anywhere" in FARR and is used primarily to autocomplete any previous string that has been entered into FARR which is something different. This is why i mainly requested to upgrade the way search history gets saved (i.e. the /HISTORY keyword) and make an "option" to include these results in the results list. Which again only makes sense in specific cases.

I think the autocomplete idea is a good one however i dont know a clean way to do that and i havent seen an app that has one box that drops down and another one that pops up. Imo i think it might complicate the ui and i would rather see that space go to something like an info box or a breadcrumbs feature found in Launchy and a bunch of other launchers?  

Would be willing to give it a go though if Mouser is willing to implement it ;).


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This is an amazing plugin that has become my primary means of searching Google. I was wondering, could you extend the plugin to work with Google Scholar as well?

I don't remember seeing anything about Google Scholar in the api when i was creating the script but i will have another look around.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Search and Alias history
« on: August 11, 2008, 11:42 PM »
As I already mentioned in some other thread I am a strong supporter of this feature (though I don't fully understand s.newaves proposal how /HISTORY-Keyword should work). The key to me seems a larger and separate history file that can optionally be included in search. That would be easy to implement, easy to turn off and very effective.

basically in the alias results section of your alias you would have the option of adding the key /HISTORY=<search group> at the end of the search string:

IMDB - $$1 | http://www.imdb.com/find?q=$$1 /ICON=icons\imdb.ico /HISTORY=movies
Fandango - $$1 | http://www.fandango....+People+Video&q=$$1&repos=Movies  /ICON=icons\fd.ico /HISTORY=movies

Google - $$1 | http://www.google.com/search?q=$$1 /ICON=icons\google.ico /HISTORY=search
Yahoo - $$1 | http://search.yahoo....&ei=UTF-8&p=$$1 /ICON=icons\yahoo.ico /HISTORY=search

Amazon.com - $$1 | http://www.amazon.co...&field-keywords=$$1 /ICON=icons\amazon /HISTORY=hardware
Newegg.com - $$1 | http://www.newegg.co...A=0&Description=$$1 /ICON=icons\newegg.ico /HISTORY=hardware

and farr would maintain a history.ini file that looked something like:

[movies]
0=4>imdb>dark knight
1=1>fandango>pineapple

[search]
0=2>google>farr launcher
1=5>yahoo>donation coder

[hardware]
0=1>newegg>raptor hdd
1=2>amazon>geforce 512mb

The nice thing about this is that you could add as many or as little search groups as you wanted and you could share search groups among aliases. Then in the future when you used your fandango alias to find showtimes and started typing dar,  "dark knight" would show up in the results list along with any other relevant past searches you made for the "movies" search group.

then i think the best way to show the history file entries (when using that alias) is to have a drop-down list next to the cursor or above the FARR windows (that would be even better IMO)

Knew that was coming based on our previous discussions :D. I really think is the wrong way to go for this though. from a ui standpoint you would be adding an additional dropdown/up box. i think this would add another layer of complexity and it just doesn't seem that intuitive. Not sure how this would work for mutliple result aliases unless you only had one type of search group. It seems like extra steps for me and not as flexible.

which makes me wonder, how would you do for multiple result aliases ?

To get the system i proposed to work with aliases that have multiple results would require a little tweaking, which is why i suggested making the "Include history entries in search results" an option. The 2 ways of handling multiple result aliases that i can see are:

-the first option is if the history recording added the ability to filter out the alias as suggested above so you would be able to search the history more effectively but you would not have history results as you search.

-the second option involves a little tweaking of how these aliases work. Imo the value of these types of aliases comes from the idea of grouping common searches and only having to remember one alias (i.e. torrent) and then being presented with multiple torrent related searches. However i think ultimately the majority of these searches end up using only one specific search. A typical workflow might be:

torrent<enter>
torrent "linux" - and then based on which search engine you wanted to use you would either arrow down to the desired search and hit enter (i.e. mininova - linux) or hit the Ctrl-# shortcut.

Most times you end up using a single search at the end anyway which is why all my searches are single result aliases. I find it easier to simply have an alias for each search i want such as mininova or the pirate bay etc.. However i definitely see the benefit of having these type of aliases and would suggest something like the following.

Make each result in a multiple result a nested alias. Then you would first type and enter into the alias, select the search engine you want, hit enter, followed by the search term. Using the example above you would do something like:

torrent<enter> : enter into alias
torrent "mininova"<enter> : enter into mininova search
mininova "linux" - enter linux search term

at this point you would be in a single search stage where you could display the relevant search history results for whatever search group you specified as history results in the results list.

As far as how to implement this, one idea might be to add the ability to enter aliases in the results of an alias, maybe with a special character like "!". O you could just use restartsearch <alias>. One advantage of this is that by default farr would come with common groupings of aliases like it does now for search, music, etc.. but users would also be able to access the nested alias directly (i.e mininova, ebay) if they wanted.

This probably wouldnt work for everyone but i think it is the most intuitive and flexible way of doing it.



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Find And Run Robot / Search and Alias history
« on: August 10, 2008, 01:15 PM »
I keep thinking about this and how great it would be to have this functionality. This is probably the only feature i miss in FARR that i used extensively in other launchers. I know this has been discussed many times but I was thinking about a way to expand upon the current search history and came up with the following:

-make the history larger and persistent among restarts (perhaps create a new history.ini file with a different section for each history group)
-be able to specify different history groups in the results window of each alias similar to how the /ICON keyword works. See image below.

history.jpg

The nice thing about a system like this is that it would enable you to create different search histories for different aliases but also be able use a shared history for multiple aliases by using the same /HISTORY name in each alias.

-save the history string in a way that lets you know which alias launched it so that you can display the search term without the alias name and be able to search for history entries for a specific alias. Currently when you type ahistory it includes the alias name in the saved strings such as "igo donationcoder.com" where igo is the name of the alias.

-finally and most importantly, imo :D, would be to add an option in FARR's settings to "Include history entries in search results". So when using any alias that had a /HISTORY keyword you would include any relevant history results when using that alias using FARR's ranking system based on the search criteria. A nice option might be to use a standard FARR history icon which would allow users to quickly determine which are history results.



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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 07, 2008, 03:21 PM »
I'll think about this. Meanwhile, do you know about the core "email" aliases? You can already do something like "email [email protected] subject". That comes really close.

It comes close but fails miserably due to the fact that it only works for email addresses you know. The great thing about your program is that it interfaces with outlook directly and you only have to know the name of the person and not their email address which can sometimes be very convoluted.

Please consider adding this if you can, it would definitely be something i and i'm sure others would use daily :D.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 06, 2008, 01:07 PM »
Wow the functionality of this alias keeps growing, great work! Maybe you should change the name to QuickOutlook ;).

Also to elaborate on my feature request above as i am re-reading it now and it seems a little vague. My idea was to add a switch like /email where you could enter in the name(s) of ppl in your contact list that you wanted to email and this would open up a new email msg with the person(s) email address already filled in. You could also potentially add a /subject and /body switch so that you could do something like:

do /email "john doe" "nancy smith" /subject painting /body when are we going to paint the house

which would pop a new email msg with the email addresses, subject and body filled in and you could just hit send. Another cool idea would be to add a /send switch so if you wanted to shoot off a quick email you could use "do /email jane /subject see you at dinner /send" which would send out the email instead of popping up the new email dialog.


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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 05, 2008, 05:08 PM »
I was thinking about something like:

do /display - would show all tasks (maybe you could have an option to limit the number of results?)
do /display /c work projectx - display all tasks in work and projectx category
do /display /p high - display all the high priority tasks
do /display /d today - display all tasks due today
....

So bascially each command would list the tasks inside FARR just like any other results. You could then simply go down to the task you wanted in the results list hit <tab> which could insert that task into the edit box with the alias in front of it (i.e. "do paint the house") and then you could simply enter the action you wanted to perform on that task (i.e. /up /complete or /p low, etc..).

Well, I have to admit that this sounds like a great idea. But I have to be realistic: this would be a non-trivial undertaking and I just don't have the time for this right now. As it is, this Do thing, which started out as just an alias using an existing tiny do.exe that I found somewhere, has grown beyond anything I imagined. Sort of law of nature in software development, I suppose. Don't mistake me, it's great fun and I find the result really useful for myself as well. Later, perhaps ...

Totally understandable. The exsiting functionality works really well though and this is definitely a great alias to have :Thmbsup:.

This would help out a great deal as well with not having to remember or look up the exact name of the task when you want to update it. I find a lot of times that i have to first look up the name of the task in outlook so that i can use the same name when i go to update it which kind of defeats the whole purpose.

I agree that if you work with tasks extensively the calls on your memory may become a serious issue. To relieve at least some of this problem, I will shortly release another version, which will look for subjects containing the string given, not just the one starting with it. Thus "do /up paint" would find "Paint the house", "Buy new paint", "Hang up painting", etc. This should just about remove the need to look up task names in Outlook, I think.

Thanks for the update. The 1.4.1 version works great with the new feature.

I was also playing around with the /displaycontacts feature and it is very handy!!! Is there any chance you would consider adding something similar for an /email switch? This way you could do something like: do /email "henry smith" "john doe". Perhaps even add a /subject switch although im probably pushing it already :D. Imo this would be a really useful feature to add and something i could see myself using on a daily basis.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 05, 2008, 11:25 AM »
How cool would it be to be able to display your current tasks within FARR itself and then be able to perform actions on them.

Can you give me a sample scenario of the the sort of actions you are thinking of?

I was thinking about something like:

do /display - would show all tasks (maybe you could have an option to limit the number of results?)
do /display /c work projectx - display all tasks in work and projectx category
do /display /p high - display all the high priority tasks
do /display /d today - display all tasks due today
....

So bascially each command would list the tasks inside FARR just like any other results. You could then simply go down to the task you wanted in the results list hit <tab> which could insert that task into the edit box with the alias in front of it (i.e. "do paint the house") and then you could simply enter the action you wanted to perform on that task (i.e. /up /complete or /p low, etc..).

This would help out a great deal as well with not having to remember or look up the exact name of the task when you want to update it. I find a lot of times that i have to first look up the name of the task in outlook so that i can use the same name when i go to update it which kind of defeats the whole purpose :D.


P.S the new v1.4 is working great, especially with the auto-update :up:

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 04, 2008, 11:59 PM »
"do test /complete" creates a new task and marks it complete.
"do test /up /complete" marks an existing task test as complete.

Doh, should've looked a little closer at the readme, everything seems to be working well. I have to say though this type of functionality really makes me long for even more outlook integration :D. How cool would it be to be able to display your current tasks within FARR itself and then be able to perform actions on them. I know you mentioned you wanted to keep the functionality separate but there is a killer plugin in here just waiting to be born 8).

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 04, 2008, 04:56 PM »
http://jpijper.dcmem...okTask/do.exe.rename (right-click and save target as) Error 404 - link not found

 :-[ Try again?

Working great :Thmbsup:. Couple of things i noticed. Generates a sound everytime the alias is executed. Not sure if this was for debugging purposes but it would be great to have an option to turn this off. Same thing with the confirmation dialogs although i do find these very usueful it might be nice to have an option that supresses them. Another minor issue was that the first time i ran it a windows dialog popped up asking me if i wanted to run "do.exe". Not a big deal as i checked "do not ask me again..." and havent seen it since.

Also it seems that the /complete switch isnt working for me. Just says it successfully created a new task with the same name.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 04, 2008, 01:03 PM »
Could  you try the following please: download http://jpijper.dcmem...okTask/do.exe.rename (right-click and save target as) and replace do.exe with this newer version (rename to do.exe). I have used a different version of the Outlook Interop DLL in building the application, so maybe it now works with Outlook 2007, but that is really too much to hope for. I have also wrapped the entire Main method in a try/catch block, so now you should at least get a more meaningful error message when the program throws an unexpected exception. Please let me know how you fare.

Error 404 - link not found

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 03, 2008, 10:01 PM »
Wow, great work jpijper! Having a little trouble with v1.3 though. Everytime i try and execute anything like add new task, display contact etc i get the error below: ...

Well, newave, it's very nice of you to call this great work. A little trouble? It seems that you can't do anything at all. The simplest thing one can do with the program is add a task, and even that apparently won't work for you. :mad: The error reports that you include unfortunately are no help to me at all, so can you answer the following questions:

- What is your operating system and Outlook version? This has been developed only for Windows XP and Outlook 2003.
- Do you have Outlook running when you try to add a task through the alias?
- What exactly happens when you give the command "do test" ?
- You say that you are having problems with v1.3. Does that mean you also tried earlier versions and that they worked?

-WinXP SP2
-Outlook 2007
-Tried with and without outlook running and i always get the same error msg posted above whenever i try "do" anything.
-First version i have tried


You should also consider making this a plugin so that you can take advantage of the auto-update feature.

This I am not going to do. I strongly believe in keeping responsibilities separatated. The functionality offered by do.exe is independent of FARR. FARR is a quick-launch utility, whose task is to facilitate the quick launching of programs, such as do.exe, and it does that well. But other similar launch utilities, such as Launchy, can launch do.exe equally well. Or you can launch do.exe through Win-R, or from the command line in a DOS window. If I turn this into a FARR plugin it becomes a FARR-only thing, and it isn't. This is just how I feel about it.

Fair enough however my only reason for suggesting it is because i feel it is a lot more efficient to be able to autoupdate without having to always check the thread/site for updates to your alias especialy when FARR has such a great update functionality. Also it would allow you display alias help as mentioned above within FARR itself instead of having to launch an external file. It also wouldnt be that much additional work to create a plugin and you would still be able to keep the do.exe functionality separate as you mentioned. I would be more than happy to wrap the alias in a plugin if you want? Either way your call.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FARR alias: Quick Outlook Task
« on: August 03, 2008, 12:36 PM »
Wow, great work jpijper! Having a little trouble with v1.3 though. Everytime i try and execute anything like add new task, display contact etc i get the error below:

quickoutlooktaskerror.gif

quickoutlooktask.gif

Also i think it would be very helpful to add a ? or /help switch that would display all the different switch options inside farr. You should also consider making this a plugin so that you can take advantage of the auto-update feature.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: too many updates !!!
« on: July 30, 2008, 11:39 AM »
Still think this has to be some kind of joke 8). I mean you're actually asking the guy not to update the program as often?? As has already been mentioned several times if you dont want to download updates as frequently or be notified of updates simply change the settings!!

From a development standpoint i think these mini beta updates are great and probably help Mouser isolate new bugs quicker however i am all for a new flag type for beta builds in the updater program which perhaps only notify you of 2.x updates instead of 2.2.x updates.

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Whoa! Big weekend for FARR  :Thmbsup:.

Regarding the file extension restrictions it might also be useful to be able to specify which file extensions NOT to include. I found this useful when setting up Locate32 where for example there were only 1-2 filetypes i didnt want to include and include everything else. Maybe by using a "-" before the extension i.e -bak;-tmp. Def not a priority for me though.

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WOW  :o

Great job with the non-contiguous searching. I know this is going to be one of those features where we dont how we ever managed without it  ;).

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Hotkeys & FarrQuickView
« on: July 24, 2008, 08:28 PM »
"Global" hotkeys are already there. The currently selected text is available via %cliptext% and "Copy selected text" (see Preferences > Lists > Hotkeys).
You can find an example in the screenshot which is appended.

I am aware of %cliptext% variable and the hotkey section however i just mentioned the clipboard keyword as part of a bigger workflow.

Mouser i know you're a busy man but could you think about adding a %currrentresult% type keyword. I think it would come in really handy. Oh and local hotkeys as well  :D

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Find And Run Robot / Hotkeys & FarrQuickView
« on: July 23, 2008, 08:20 PM »
I think it would be extremely powerful to add functionality to the hotkey system that supported special keywords or variables in the "Text for search box field". For example you could add a variable/keyword for the currently selected item. This way you could bind a hotkey to perform a certain action on the selected result by using the that item as an argument in combination with any of the many aliases or plugins already available.

Possible workflows could be things like searching for a specific file and then hitting a hotkey to email that file, zip it, delete, rename it, etc.. Or say you are browsing URL's you could hit a hotkey to show that file in FARR's internal browser. You could also add different variables for things like the clipboard contents or currently selected text. With these variables you could do things like highlight a word in your browser or editor and hit a hotkey and have FARR popup with the definition/synonym of that word using a plugin.

Off the top of my head some keywords could be:

<selection> - currently selected item in FARR or the first result
<next> - item after the the currently selected item
<prev> - item before the the currently selected item
<clipboard> - would substitute for clipboard contents
<enter> - trigger/launch result or action
<cursor> - where to place the cursor. could be useful when needing some user input
<delete> - keywords could be added/shared that perform a specific action by using 3rd party tool

The text could look something like:

email <selection><enter> (where email is an alias)
igo <selection><enter>
igo <next><enter>
define <clipboard><enter>
<selection><rename> - where rename could be an action keyword

I would also imagine that you would need to add an option to specify the scope of the hotkey i.e. global or local. Local hotkeys would only work within FARR whereas global ones would work from anywhere. This could also be expanded to work with plugins similar to how a plugin alias file works. Plugins could then specify hotkeys in a hotkey file that only works within their plugins and have certain plugin specific functions. Keywords/variables could be created for certain actions that could be shared like aliases.

Another really cool features would be a toggle switch (i.e igo <selection><enter> +toggle) or option. This would allow you to toggle between states. So say the currently selected item in FARR's result list is a bookmark, you hit a hotkey and it opens the url up in the internal browser. You hit the same hotkey and it returns you to the result list. You could then also use hotkeys like <next> and <prev> to move through results while in the html view. So in the example above say you have 9 urls listed in the result window. You hit a hotkey and the first one opens up in FARR. You hit another hotkey to move to the next url or another to move back to the prev one.

This all leads up to another feature request of course :D

FarrQuickView: which would allow you to quickly view the selected result in FARR, similar to total commander for example. I would say this is almost possible now with the new html mode. You could pretty much view any file type using it similar to how you can open up most file types within internet explorer (txt, pdf, mp3, html, xml, etc..). This is also an example of where the toggle switch could be used. This way if you're searching through files etc and want to quickly view the contents you could hit the quick view hotkey, view the file, use another hotkey to move to the next or prev file from the result list and then finally hit the quick view hotkey again to go back to your results list. Functionality could be added to better handle specific file types if needed although the html mode is pretty powerful to begin with. Lastly, for this feature it would be great to display a header or footer with some meta data about the selected item (i.e. size, date created, path, type, etc..) perhaps even file type specific info.

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Armando: Yes the max results you can get at one time is 8 currently however i will probably add an option to get more in a future release.

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