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1  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Program to override usual window close button with superfast TerminateProcess? on: March 26, 2015, 02:52:01 PM

Def check out the settings - I set it to "do not confirm" and a couple other things.

If I'm gonna go to that much effort to nuke something, I don't want the confirm box!
2  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Dreams thread... on: March 26, 2015, 02:42:15 PM

Got one!

The structure was a little strange - I was not quite "in control" like a full lucid one, but I could def tell portions of it unfolding.

Near as I can tell, it was like being a nobody-cast-extra in something on TV. By the lack of "dominating title characters", it felt like a TV movie.

It was something like a "soft crime" mystery taking place at something like a college where the Star Trek club got the funding for a "Day with Diana Muldaur (Dr. Pulaski from ST TNG)." Typical of those second string college activities where they can only afford one of the "B list" stars.

So we were all riding around in a car going places, and there was something about packages. Suppose Ms. Muldaur had either engineer or prop manager friends and maybe had brought custom Trekkian gifts for the club to mail home.

But because of a recent unrelated mail bomb scare, we were all talking about asking for police assistance while we mailed them to demonstrate the authenticity of the gifts.

It all went off without any "plot developments" - the tone was much more "slice of life". It gets a little fuzzy but I presume the Trek club and friends just wandered around campus and maybe the d-list local tourist attractions of a small college town and probably had lunch in there somewhere.

Fun little dream!

3  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: March 26, 2015, 02:18:15 PM
This is just batshit crazy...

These people are worried about being "triggered" by clapping. Really.


Anxiety inducing clapping:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNXElmEUIJo

cheesy

(I know there are new entries, but this is the most anxiety inducing!) 

4  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Program to override usual window close button with superfast TerminateProcess? on: March 26, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
On a related note, a browser I used to use called Opera took *so* long to close, that I always ended up quitting it with the task manager just to save time and prevent the HD from thrashing. I never suffered any ill effects as a result.

I'll remark that I've def seen ill effects from "hard closing" applications. On the browser side, in FF / PaleMoon, if it crashes or if you kill it, when you restart it tries (helpfully) to reload all your tabs. So you should decide what to do about that.

On other applications, I've definitely noticed lost data depending on how the program saves. So be careful!

5  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tower Defense games collection updated 27-9-08 on: March 26, 2015, 02:12:26 PM

Hmm. In between my TV watching I might pick another game to amiably go after!

6  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tower Defense games collection updated 27-9-08 on: March 26, 2015, 02:08:14 PM
Autobot update:

I beat it!

The key idea is you should upgrade your Optimus prime bots instead of always using single new ones.

After a "squeak win" by one life bar, once I knew I had the concept down, I went for a cleaner solid win.

[attachimg=#]

What takes a few seconds to explain is that this is the last level, and it's just about to fade to black with "you win." So this shot is the pattern (and "proof!) - even if one or both of those last enemies gets into the base, I clearly have enough life bars for a solid victory.

And unlike a fluke win, I have the pattern down enough so with a little care, it's repeatable.

But a really well done game!
7  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / New Bill Would Repeal Patriot Act on: March 25, 2015, 11:55:17 AM
Borrowing from Slashdot's copy:
http://yro.slashdot.org/s...-would-repeal-patriot-act

A new piece of bipartisan legislation that aims to repeal the Patriot Act and the FISA Amendments Act, which the NSA has used to justify broad domestic surveillance ... the Surveillance State Repeal Act.

http://thehill.com/policy...ely-dismantle-patriot-act

http://pocan.house.gov/si...0Repeal%20Act%20114th.pdf

The bill also attempts to dramatically strengthen whistleblower protections, so situations like Edward Snowden's and Thomas Drake's don't happen in the future. This legislation is not expected to get the support of Congressional leaders, but supporters hope it will at least inspire some debate about several provisions of the Patriot Act coming up for renewal in June.

http://thehill.com/blogs/...slate-against-big-brother

---------------

I haven't dug into this yet - just getting the shell topic out there.

8  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: forum for javascript on: March 24, 2015, 08:11:54 PM

Kalos, do you have an IT guy in your company?

You're starting to get into a lot of topics!

9  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Dreams thread... on: March 24, 2015, 07:26:45 PM

Oh yeah, I recall now a small fragment of a dream - I've been watching too much procedural TV, so I recall "noticing" when I woke up the dream was boring, something about one of the govt accountability offices, so I "ditched it" as a boring dream!

"I'll try to have a cooler dream later"
cheesy
10  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 05:43:28 PM
can you tell me please how to make an excel script (VBA etc) to connect to a server and perform a search for a file?

Sorry no, that's outside what I know how to do!
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11  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The 2015 10th Anniversary DonationCoder.com Fundraiser Cheer for Victory Thread! on: March 24, 2015, 05:36:58 PM
^ smiley

on a practical note:
I wanted to give a couple of people donations - if I 'make a donation' does it all automatically go to the site?
or do I have do donate to the site after getting the credits, if you follow me.

If you right click a name, the last item on the bottom is "donate to this member".
: )

12  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 05:19:11 PM

Well, looks like the NoBBC button is there on the initial post, so I'll try to remember to do that next time!

13  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The 2015 10th Anniversary DonationCoder.com Fundraiser Cheer for Victory Thread! on: March 24, 2015, 05:06:00 PM
Quote
Can't believe how long I have been here and how many words I must have typed during that time
we need a function that will export a pdf ebook for a user showing all posts that have participated in, with their contributions colored differently.

<-- is terrified of "the complete works of Mouser on DC" - 34,000+ posts!?
tellme
14  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 04:55:26 PM
You'd make a great teacher Tao
I'm going to 'listen-in' as I'm learning here too thumbs up

PS if you want the forum to display just text (and not mess around with html etc.) there's
  • disable bbc code button/ tags: [nobbc][/nobbc]
  • code highlighting drop down box

- both visible when you go to preview (as opposed to quick reply)

Thank you!

Meanwhile, I tend to post-and-modify, so I don't see "nobbc" - I do see a dropdown for "basic text" - is that roughly the same thing?
15  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 02:04:47 PM

Yeah, DC has its own chat room!
Not everyone does know about it, but it's no secret, just not really advertised.
http://www.donationcoder....rum/index.php?action=chat

You can right click it and create a new tab right here in the browser. It's a little finicky, but it works pretty well unless you have heavy firewalling or something at work. But your manager knows you are trying to get him answers so he shouldn't worry if you visit there.

16  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 01:59:40 PM
sorry, in short, will the links in the index file I emailed, work? ie. download the actual files?
let aside security and that I would email the link and not the file or anything else

Again this is ringing my alarm bells with mixed purposes.

Do you want to come to the chat room for a bit?

Then later we can post a summary here in the thread.

17  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 01:38:23 PM
sorry, I don't know how the html file knows its url and parent web path and you answer "it 'just' knows" !

I see nothing inside the html file that contains its url

it seems the web browser when it opens an html and sees hyperlinks in it with no path, it automatically takes the same path of the url that was downloaded

but if you take that html file and send it in an email attached, and open it from that email, will these Href links without path, work?
if they work I will get mad!

so, if they don't work, and they only work when the index html is downloaded, there is no chance to do what I want, one thing of which was to have the index file (I said xls, you made it html) to be stored locally!

can we do this?
I edit the xls file to add the filenames and possibly add new files I have uploaded
the html at the time it is downloaded, it AUTOMATICALLY reads and grabs the hyperlinks from the xls file and displays the latest uptodate index

is that possible?

that would be interesting

I think you might be drifting a little where a couple of your desires run opposite to each other! Again I'll try to answer these out of order in what I hope makes sense.

"...but if you take that html file and send it in an email attached, and open it from that email, will these Href links without path, work? If they work I will get mad!"

So let's not make you mad!

You shouldn't be emailing the index file. Leaving aside security on who is authorized to look at files on the server, you would email the authorized group the *link to the index file on the server*. The index file lives on the server just like any of the other files that get up there. (Otherwise, why have a web server at all? It's not software, it's just a file.)  

PS in all these posts the DC board software adds random things to my posts that are not there!

So anyway, for example in my server, it was my fault in our example I used file names with spaces. It's tough to do prototypes because in prototyping you take shortcuts! I don't do a lot of web work so I was using file names with spaces. So I renamed the index with dashes which should come through as a straight link.

So my "hard link" would be
http://www.freevoteusa.co...Excel-Produced-Index.html

But you were asking that if people move the files around, that "hard link" breaks. So I went the other way. If you load the index up to the web server where all the files are, then you *browse* to the index, it "finds" everything in that folder. Then someone wants to move all the files say to a "completed folder". Sure. So you move the index file there too, and it still "finds" the files again. That's what I hope you were asking.

You can't simultaneously (easily) have an index file on your local machine that looks at the web server AND flexible enough to still find files when people move them around on the server.

So if I had an index on my local C drive, it would need a "hard link"
http://www.freevoteusa.co...Excel-Produced-Index.html
to find the stuff on the web server. But then when someone moves the file out from under you, that link would break.

You can re-do the index, but it takes a few more steps.

I know, limits of proprietary data, but ask your manager if there are a couple of very non-sensitive files (like maybe a readme and a boring memo) we can use together to take our example past one step of these prototypes and do ten minutes of "real work". A small piece of this is you are having a little trouble converting my prototype to your real situation.

I'll add a few more notes in the next post to keep this from becoming a wall of text!

18  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: In search of an alternative to InfoSelect ... on: March 24, 2015, 01:19:52 PM
Forgot this was here  embarassed.

Been using MyInfo for quite a time, now.  Not as complete as InfoSelect (name as was sold to me), but close, and I don't have to pay $100 annual update - although I might, with a few changes - as was necessary with InfoSelect.  My disaffection with InfoSelect began when an update trashed my file history, running into nearly a decade, with no chance of recovery within the program.  Yeah, there were backups, but the same thing happened.  Lamentations to InfoSelect went unanswered, so I quit the program - I've no use for developers that don't respond (reminiscent of my lifetime license to WinZip which was not respected when Nico Mak (?) sold it to current developers).

Right now, MyInfo serves to capture and retain my needs/preferences.  Several limitations exist, but they be bearable, and the developer(s) seem amenable to suggestion, albeit somewhat dilatory in implementation at times.

(I distrust OneNote, Evernote and the like because too many cloud leaks/break-ins/intrusions have occurred.  Was an avid Evernote user until it migrated to a cloud-based format/venue.)

Hi Barney,
I have been a fan and promoting MyInfo for a while now. I wasn't aware there is any $100/year annual update! I do recommend the Pro version, but I thought if you get it once, you should be good for a while. I landed on MyInfo because it was the only other program I found that did certain export features and I found a "nuclear" bug with TreeDB that made that program absolutely unusable at any level, right at the same time they took down the support forum and never answered a tech support question from me ever again!

And the developer of MyInfo really is pretty responsive.

It might be fun if we traded a couple of MyInfo notes ... pun intended!
cheesy

There are several good programs out there, each with a slightly different focus. So my top level advice when people wade into this topic is to do it in stages - first take a slightly dreamy approach if you've never used any program like these before, and just dawdle with semi-made-up data, like if you have a few hobby text files. Not "asdfasfdsgsdgds", but for example I have a collection of fortune cookies, and another file on tv actor info. So then you can see what "real" data looks like, dreamily.

Then softly begin to wonder "would I want a program to do X"? Sometimes it's possible, sometimes it's not.

And then slowly keep an eye out for what you think is a "killer feature" that you "just must have". That can often break a tie when two programs have slightly different sets of annoyances, but if one has the killer feature, it wins the tiebreak.

Does that make sense to y'all? It's what got me through testing about 10 of these programs to a finalist I am quite happy with for a decent time now.


19  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 12:58:56 PM
oh I see now
well, not exactly what I was looking for
but it is a good suggestion to replace the index from an xls file to a html file

1) I don't understand how the html file is produced from the excel file
2) Also, I don't understand, how the Href tag works.
3) And how the html file can 'know' its url and thus search for the specific files in that directory.

Can you explain these things to me please?

Also, couldn't we embed that html file into an excel document, so that when I download the excel file, it will display inside the html index?
Or isn't it possible to make an excel file that will open the html index and convert the links into the correct ones? ie. the filenames with the path of the current web folder?

Let's look at those in slightly different order.

The html file source looks like this:  (Modified for this post!) (And that URL tag is not in there!)

<HTML>      <BR>
<Body>      <BR>
      <BR>
      <BR>
   <A Href="a.txt"> Top important file for Kalos!! - a.txt [/url]    <BR>
   <A Href="b.txt"> b.txt [/url]    <BR>
   <A Href="c.txt"> c.txt [/url]    <BR>
      <BR>
      <BR>
</Body>      <BR>
</Html>      

So for #3, because it is in the same folder as the files, it "just knows" because it's assuming it's in the same folder, and it is. A slightly fancier way to say it is that it is just what basic spec web behavior is - look in the same folder until you tell it to look anywhere else.

For #2, "Anchor" is the A letter, and that too "just is" - it's the raw command to produce a link. It basically says "look here for the file" but then "display the link like whatever comes next". The middle half is basically any text you want to put there.

Then it just closes the link so the computer knows it's done.

BR is a line break.

I didn't spend any time putting any fancy header text on there, but once the basics work, you can fiddle with that later.

For #1, How it is produced, it's basically the right couple of columns of the excel file copied wholesale and pasted into the text html file. Notice for later you can put other things in the excel file you don't need to copy over. That's for another day.

So once you get going, you just paste the list of files in the left couple of columns, and the right side is supposed to automatically concatenate them together to produce your index file.

"Also, couldn't we embed that html file into an excel document, so that when I download the excel file, it will display inside the html index?
Or isn't it possible to make an excel file that will open the html index and convert the links into the correct ones? ie. the filenames with the path of the current web folder?"

These make less sense. You were saying a big restriction was you couldn't load a lot of stuff up on that server. So the excel file is down on your machine where you're working on it. So you're not downloading it anywhere - you already have it on your machine. And you really can't try to embed the excel file inside the html one - that starts to get way out of hand. The production flow runs the other way. Your excel file is your "engine" that does all your work, and "12 clicks later" you have a simple html index. As long as that html index is in the same folder as the files, it shouldn't need a full path - that's what you wanted earlier, flexibility to move the files and not break the index.

And don't try to "super optimize it" to save 1 step - that just makes it get all messy! Once you get the proof of concept working like tomos was saying, it really is as easy as "drop file list into excel, copy right few columns of excel, open text file, control-v paste and save" and it's done. Fast and ruthless.

The other guys are right that later you'll want a parallel investigation into content systems, but this was supposed to get "this month's problems" solved in under a day once you get the idea, and then you can grind out a more thorough review of a few different content systems and maybe even get your IT guy or someone to engage a thorough test.

Does that help?






20  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 10:46:50 AM
how exactly that html tag works?

is it the equivalent for 'search in the same directory' for hyperlinks of local files?

how actually the xls 'knows' its web folder and that html tag links the hyperlinks to the same folder?

I don't get the mechanism

can anyone explain me please

guys, it doesn't work

I uploaded a.txt, b.txt, c.txt to my server
I also uploaded index.xls in the same web folder

I am not sure what to write inside the xls file though
it cannot allow me to enter <A Href="c.txt"> c.txt in a cell as a hyperlink
it converts it to %3cA%20Href=%22c.txt%22%3e%20c.txt
what exactly the xls index file need to contain?
any hint?

Kalos,
You're asking about making an index.
But you might have missed something I was saying.
The index is a web file produced from half of the excel file.

So upload Excel Produced Index.html to that server and try those links.

The Excel file has a lot of components that aren't actually links - it assembles the links which you just copy and paste over into a text web file. That web file is your index. The links aren't directly live in the excel file.



21  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 10:41:03 AM
he's given you a template file - all you need is to test it with one linked file to see if it works in practice.

^when you've done that^ you can worry about whether you need an app to list files (the "directory reader")

Tomos, the process I designed is meant to tie right in to a dir reader because it produces the complete index list of folders all at once - so he will need it pretty quickly. Part of the point is the dir reader "can't lie" vs typing them in by hand. So for example if there are client names, and he enters them by hand, and one of them is something like Schaefeirmann, whoever is doing data entry by hand will get that wrong 3 times out of 10, whereas the dir reader produces a "cold facts" dump where it cannot be wrong with random spelling errors. That's part of the system I designed.

^ I'm actually very interested in the process you describe. My point was that he try it with one or two ('manually') linked files first to see if it works - a proof of concept - then he could look at setting up the more complex system.

@kalos, it seems to me it would be a good idea if you showed your manager a few of the replies here - or the whole of the two threads. They might reconsider.

Sure Tomos, the "three file test" is what I began with here. The excel file needs nothing but a file name, and then it creates the links itself.

Then he would just run a directory reader for the real thing, and those file names already come out in a list, so he'd copy and paste those instead.

The big bug to fix doing the whole thing is that there's two lines at the bottom of the excel that go /body and /html that would have to just be moved down to the bottom of his list.

22  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 01:37:02 AM

I think you're right as it begins to scale.

So maybe there's a two step process.

My method can get him going, and then his company team can investigate which longer term CMS they want to use.

23  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: WinPatrol going subscription on: March 23, 2015, 10:11:25 PM

I think what we're all reacting to is that it's not a planned strategy from day 1, but it gives off the vibe of being X, then much later the developer (notice with way too little timeline warning) say "oh, by the way, I'm broke, next month I'll do X".

That's what feels like the rip off. If people want to do cool projects, then let them stay cool projects. If you think you can't hold on forever, then plan that in the campaign.

But unfortunately "bait and switch" however naively implemented is abusive.

24  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 23, 2015, 08:39:15 PM
he's given you a template file - all you need is to test it with one linked file to see if it works in practice.

^when you've done that^ you can worry about whether you need an app to list files (the "directory reader")

Tomos, the process I designed is meant to tie right in to a dir reader because it produces the complete index list of folders all at once - so he will need it pretty quickly. Part of the point is the dir reader "can't lie" vs typing them in by hand. So for example if there are client names, and he enters them by hand, and one of them is something like Schaefeirmann, whoever is doing data entry by hand will get that wrong 3 times out of 10, whereas the dir reader produces a "cold facts" dump where it cannot be wrong with random spelling errors. That's part of the system I designed.

Kalos, my experts here can let me know if there's any internal command in Excel that can do this. But consider for example if my test has three test files in it, then you do it for real and now there's 140 files in the folder, the Excel file and the related export index has no idea they are there. So it has to get the list from somewhere.

25  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 23, 2015, 08:35:18 PM
so TaoPhoenix, sorry but your posts are a bit hard to follow
so do I need anything else apart from the xls index file and the files themselves?
I think you mention something about a program that will perform a dir command to that folder?
but I need to have command line access to the web server, right?

I think this is a valid point.

It doesn't have to be command line access per se - the example I created used a Windows program called Karen Directory Reader.

Those files with the long names are there because they are *in the folder*. So if you don't want them in the index, you'd take them out of that specific folder and put them somewhere else like a "tools folder".

So then when you are happy that only the files you want indexed are there and no more, you will get what you want.

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