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351  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Atom - A new editor is born on: May 09, 2014, 09:00:05 PM
What I want in an editor:
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Rectangular/column/block edit mode
Bookmark lines with a regex search and manipulate bookmarks (invert, blank lines, etc.)
Perform actions on bookmarked lines (copy, delete, move, etc)
Automatic incremental block fill (select block and fill/insert with 001, 002, 003, etc.)

Kedit does all that, and then some
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Windows only, but known to run with WINE.
Strike one
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Also, expensive.
Strike two
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Line oriented, so search targets cannot cross line endings.  If you are comfortable with REXX, you can make it do almost anything.
Not quite strike three, but I never got into REXX.  

TextPad is only 27 bucks, Notepad++ is free, both do all I want and runs in Wine.  Why don't I use those instead?  Using Wine to run something as trivial as a text editor (however full-featured) just doesn't justify the overhead, IMO.  I've also heard Kate can do all that, but it brings a whole ton of KDE baggage with it, so I can't justify that either.  Sorry, I know I'm being picky, but most of us are, to some degree or another. Wink

I don't know why, but I really enjoy reading about why people choose the text editors they use.
 Wink
I think it has partly to do with the fact that it's just a text editor, lol.  It's supposed to be this very plain thing, yet there are so many complex options and features, etc. to consider and we get all passionate about them.  Same goes for other software, I suppose, but I really have fun with the text editors.

Well... think of anything you can do with text; write a story, code (in all it's myriad formats), populate a database or spreadsheet, take notes, keep lists, edit configuration files, etc.  I mean, there is so much to modern computing that plain text is still a vital, integral part of that it's almost impossible to think of something that can't be done better if only one had a more feature-ful text editor.  Personally, I need something that will edit config files and help me build playlists with equal aplomb, and if it can help me code efficiently, so much the better (though, IMHO the closer to an IDE any given text editor gets, the less useful as a plain text editor it is).
352  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: SpaceFM development (and developer) going on "hiatus" on: May 09, 2014, 02:37:27 AM
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With regard to Linux, I plan on falling behind the systemd wave in Debian, avoiding it. I may eventually move toward Gentoo, or over to one of the BSDs as well. But in avoidance of systemd, I won’t be keeping up with the latest edge of Linux for awhile, which makes for a poor developer’s environment.

So what's wrong with systemd?  Upstart is broken by admission of it's developers, Sysvinit is solid and mature but doesn't address the realities of the modern computing environment, and OpenRC is cute, but...

Anyways, if enough people care about SpaceFM, it WILL be forked and development will continue, which is the beauty (or bane, your choice...) of Open Source software.

EDIT: Oh, I see, it's because udev: https://lwn.net/Articles/490413/
353  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Atom - A new editor is born on: May 08, 2014, 06:58:24 PM
@phitsc, did you see this?
http://discuss.atom.io/t/...ion-issue-on-windows/8812
354  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Atom - A new editor is born on: May 07, 2014, 07:48:23 PM
Lots of discussion going on now, with others getting it to run and yours truly eating dirt. Sad
http://discuss.atom.io/t/...-64-bit-build-report/8791

If anyone here has built it successfully, or would like to try, let's put our heads together and get this done.
355  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Chicken / Observations of an Internet Middleman on: May 06, 2014, 09:50:45 PM
Awesome pair of posts from Level 3, a firm that owns thousands of miles worth of internet wire, that confirm everything you ever suspected about the gross mismanagement of bandwidth by the biggest ISPs, and what's actually going on behind the scenes.  No names were named, but I think we can read between the lines...

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In the wake of the DC Circuit’s net neutrality ruling, there has been quite a bit of media attention around congestion on the Internet and its effects on consumers, including alleged impacts on the quality of Netflix video streams and the ability to use Amazon Web Services.  There is further speculation that this congestion could force large content distributors into cutting deals directly with Internet Service Providers (ISP) to avoid congestion the ISPs themselves are perpetuating.  While this is news du jour, it is a problem that has really been around for several years.  The problem is the game of “chicken” some last mile ISPs are playing with the Internet.



from Russia Today USA News
356  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Atom - A new editor is born on: May 06, 2014, 08:22:48 PM
Failed miserably.  Posted a build report on the discussion page, as I have no idea what's going on from the error log.
357  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Atom - A new editor is born on: May 06, 2014, 07:32:57 PM
What I want in an editor:
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Rectangular/column/block edit mode
Bookmark lines with a regex search and manipulate bookmarks (invert, blank lines, etc.)
Perform actions on bookmarked lines (copy, delete, move, etc)
Automatic incremental block fill (select block and fill/insert with 001, 002, 003, etc.)
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Currently only TextPad 5 and Notepad++ have delivered.  Now that I'm full-time Linux, only Geany has come close, but it only has block editing.  Scite's block editing is... not.  I tried Sublime text and it can do all that and more, but I can name fistfuls of things that 70 bucks is better spent on at this point in my life.  If Atom can do what I want, maybe I'll try building it for Linux.
* Edvard downloads

*EDIT*: Wow, lots of NodeJS dependencies... I'm feeling sketchy, but I'll report back...
358  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Happy 50th Birthday, BASIC!! on: May 03, 2014, 08:34:04 PM
Well, a couple days late, but we'll not get into particulars...  embarassed
I cut my computing teeth on Apple BASIC between '82 and '86, didn't touch computers from then until 2000, but I still remember those days sitting in the library typing in Beagle Bros. one-liners at an Apple ][e with fondness, and I still say "string" in my head when I have to use '$' in an environment variable or regex. 

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Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal
... Kemeny and Kurtz decided to create something so straightforward that it almost didn’t involve memorization at all. “We wanted the syntax of the language to consist of common words, and to have those words have a more-or-less obvious meaning,” says Kurtz. “It is a slight stretch, but isn’t it simpler to use HELLO and GOODBYE in place of LOGON and LOGOFF?”


359  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: Yad - Yet Another Dialog on: May 03, 2014, 04:52:47 PM
Ah, yes, I was about to point that out, "[" is an alias for the "test" command that requires a closing "]" and so requires a space between it and it's argument.
Check it out: "man [" brings up the man page for "test", so:
if test -e /usr/bin/man; then echo "yes"; fi
is the same as:
if [ -e /usr/bin/man ]; then echo "yes"; fi

That same error has totally boggled me a few times in the past, and I swore I would never repeat it.   wallbash
360  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: Yad - Yet Another Dialog on: May 03, 2014, 01:08:33 PM
Thanks for the warning -- the second example didn't work out of the box for me.

The run dialog?  Check out the tweaks I posted about that:
http://sourceforge.net/p/...?limit=25&page=2#7516
361  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: Yad - Yet Another Dialog on: May 03, 2014, 01:49:39 AM
Found the following post mentioning yad and others at SO:
  http://stackoverflow.com/a/21408784

I tried all those mentioned (except KDialog), and Yad was the best of all of them.  To be fair, they're all just graphical notifications, not meant to be full GUIs.  Yad is designed to be more flexible, so by nature it can be used as a GUI construction tool (as long as all you need is a dialog to pass some parameters to command-line tools).

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FWIW, did find a few examples at sf (may be they're the same as what's at Google code -- looks like they're moving from there):
  http://sourceforge.net/p/yad-dialog/wiki/Examples/

Hmmm... Yes, it looks like the same content as at the Google Code site.  
Caveat Emptor: I've found most of the examples need a little massaging to work as intended, so keep your Bash skills honed, and the Yad man page handy.
362  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Yad - Yet Another Dialog on: May 02, 2014, 09:55:11 PM
So, I've used this for quite some time now, and even squawked about it here and there, but I think it deserves a proper Webfind post.  

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Display graphical dialogs from shell scripts or command line.
Yad (yet another dialog) is a fork of Zenity with many improvements, such as custom buttons, additional dialogs, pop-up menu in notification icon and more.

Downloads here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/yad-dialog/
Code for above example from the Wiki:
[copy or print]
yad --title='Desktop entry editor' --text='Simple desktop entry editor' --form --field='Type:CB' --field='Name' --field='Generic name' --field='Comment' --field='Command:FL' --field='Icon' --field='In terminal:CHK' --field='Startup notify:CHK' 'Application!URI' 'Name' 'Generic name' 'This is the comment' '/usr/bin/yad' 'yad' FALSE TRUE

The Google code site has a lot of example code and a Wiki, whereas the Sourceforge site mainly hosts downloads.

It really is more than just a fork of Zenity, as it has enough flexibility to build basic to moderately-complex dialog-based GUIs for many common command-line functions.  Most of the instructions are pretty intuitive, with a few things here and there that don't seem consistent ('--rest' to read arguments from a text file?) and prepare yourself for a little pain if you need to make something requiring a tray icon...
Other than that, it's truly great.  My applause to Ananasik (Yad lead coder) and all those who have contributed.
 greenclp


from an Internet search for "Zenity alternative" or maybe "Autohotkey Linux", I don't remember
363  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: WinXP is officially dead! on: May 01, 2014, 03:03:32 AM
Any 16-bit stuff can run just fine in a VM with Windows 3.1 or better (I chose Win95  embarassed) and old DOS games and utilities have a very good chance of running just fine with DOSBox.
364  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Firefox 29 - soooooo similar to Chrome on: April 30, 2014, 09:19:54 PM
[attach=1]
http://nightly.mozilla.org/


As of this writing, Nightly is at ver. 32.0a1, so I've had rounded tabs and "hamburger button" for a few months now.  I do have the Nightly app icon in the upper left though, so I can tell it's not Chrome (-ium). 
Meh.  It's still Firefox, Classic Theme Restorer mentioned above should do the trick.

365  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Microsoft Races To Fix Massive Internet Explorer Hack on: April 30, 2014, 09:07:35 PM
Just for the record, I work for a government agency these days (nothing sinister, trust me), and we just got an email that Firefox will be remotely installed on our workstations and that we should avoid using Internet Explorer until Microsoft can fix the bug.  Sometime in mid-May, they said.  I don't know about the hype, but when it's bad enough to make the government change their default browser almost overnight, it's bad enough.
http://www.neowin.net/new...-microsoft-releases-patch
366  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Developers and the truth (or close to it) on: April 30, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
I always suspected such things were true, as every time I open a Pandora's box in my feeble attempts at programming, I can see the slithery tail and hear the rustle of membranous wings before the beast even rears it's head.  So far, I have managed to shut the lid each time, but still it beckons with it's jeweled accoutrements and promises of glory and wisdom.  So far, Pascal has not bitten me, though strong typing has induced some episodes of teeth grinding, but one day I will venture into wild territory, and then...
 ohmy
Very funny reads, BTW...
 Thmbsup
367  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tech giants, chastened by Heartbleed, finally agree to fund OpenSSL on: April 30, 2014, 12:21:25 AM
Well, since it's all being managed by the Linux Foundation, apparently none.  From the article (emphasis mine):

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The funding will not come with strings attached, Zemlin said. “We definitely want to help them, but it has to be done under their community norms,” he said. “The folks at OpenSSL are guys who have dedicated most of their adult careers to super hard software development that is, I would argue, in some ways thankless work.”
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The Linux Foundation believes that open source developers should be their own bosses, regardless of who provides their funding. “Linus Torvalds does not listen to Jim Zemlin. That's intentional,” Zemlin said.

Sounds legit...
368  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: You have ruined Javascript... Rob Ashton on AngularJS on: April 29, 2014, 08:45:15 PM
Yeah, I saw that, which is why I said "Even if he's wrong...".  Though I do think it's rather disingenuous to trot out the "So suggest something better" argument.  In Rob's opinion, there HAS to be a better way, but AngularJS isn't it, and he's pointing out what seems to be circular reasoning encoded in the framework which appears completely illogical. 

Meh, I'm still giddy about learning Pascal, what do I know?  embarassed
I still think he's funny...
369  Other Software / Developer's Corner / You have ruined Javascript... Rob Ashton on AngularJS on: April 28, 2014, 09:56:45 PM
Even if he's wrong, this is hilarious.
Javascript is it's own worst enemy just further reminds me how I'm never, ever touching Javascript if I can damn well help it.
Grin

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you have ruined javascript
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What the actual !@#$%^&* is this? I read this as "in order to do a hello world, you must first create a hello world service to create the hello world factory to create the hello world service so you can print hello world on the screen."



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370  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Tech giants, chastened by Heartbleed, finally agree to fund OpenSSL on: April 28, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
IBM, Intel, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, and others pledge big bucks to the project.  About damn time...

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The important role OpenSSL plays in securing the Internet has never been matched by the financial resources devoted to maintaining it.
... but the Linux Foundation wants to change that. The foundation today is announcing a three-year initiative with at least $3.9 million to help under-funded open source projects—with OpenSSL coming first.



from CodeProject News
371  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Are there any simple graphic editors? on: April 28, 2014, 07:49:56 PM
I think full-featured monoliths like Gimp are exactly what OP was trying to avoid.  I understand completely, as Gimp mystified me for years because I couldn't figure out how just click-drag to draw a damn circle or rectangle.  Then I got a book on Gimp from the library and my eyes were opened;  this was not a drawing program, this was photo-manipulation.

Irfanview and XnView were my go-tos when I needed batch conversion or fast-and-clean graphic file treatments like cropping/lightening/darkening/color manipulation, etc. but the drawing functions in IrfanView and XnView Legacy are about as limited as MSpaint, and there is no paint functionality in XnViewMP (... yet).
372  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Syncany releases working alpha on: April 28, 2014, 06:28:35 PM
It's written in Java.   stars

373  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Syncany releases working alpha on: April 28, 2014, 07:21:26 AM
Finally got around to trying Syncany last night. 
1. It's a command-line, not GUI. 
2. Currently has plugins for FTP, SFTP, WebDAV, Local and Amazon S3
3. I got it to connect to my Box account VIA WebDAV, but it didn't sync anything from my Box.com folder, though it did upload it's own database folders and stuff.

Well, it's Alpha, what can I say?

374  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: *NIX: Luakit, dwb, and other alternative browsers on: April 28, 2014, 01:28:28 AM
I'm liking dwb mainly for when I need to use a web interface for local stuff like CUPS, HTML help files, or Webmin for my NAS.  Much nicer to not have to open my full browser when I just want to admin my router.

But holy smokes, another webkit browser with vi keybindings? Is this a 'thing' now?  Must be, because they're all over the place:

Uzbl:
http://www.uzbl.org/
Has a nice cat logo.  And the attitude of the Suckless community.

Jumanji:
http://pwmt.org/projects/jumanji/options/
Supports user-scripts, adblock lists, and flash.tellme

Vimprobable:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/vimprobable/
Has 'tab-completion' built in, but otherwise very no-nonsense and minimalistic.

Xxxterm:
https://opensource.conformal.com/wiki/xxxterm
Security-minded for the security conscious.

For main browser use, I'm on Firefox Nightly these days, and Chromium when it hasn't been pulled from the "Testing" repos...  Angry nono2
375  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Cheap fountain pen shootout on: April 27, 2014, 08:25:05 PM
BTW - thank you rjbull for recommending Stationery Art.  Looks like they've got a more or less complete offering of Baoer's line, which I've been eyeing lately, and I'm liking the slim look of the Hero 7015, which being stainless steel might have a bit of weight to it...

Check out Jetpens.com as well.  Great prices and I've heard their customer service is pretty good.
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