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301  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 05, 2014, 11:43:02 PM
Nilsson!!  I've always considered him a "fifth Beatle".  Incredible vocal range and brilliant songwriter.  Thmbsup
302  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Dreams thread... on: June 05, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Been playing too much Wolfenstein lately? Wink

Naw... the walls weren't pixelated enough  Grin

Heh heh.  I'd be tempted to share some.  But I'm afraid others would be tempted to analyze them.  It's tough enough being crazy without someone making it official.

Aw dude, I've posted 3 already, if someone wanted to analyze, I'm sure I'd have had it in spades by now.  I do understand though, sometimes dreams are a very personal experience and I wouldn't encourage anyone to air out their bloomers simply on my suggestion.  So many of my dreams are not just bizarre, but also entertaining, and I thought I'd share the mirth.  embarassed
303  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 05, 2014, 07:20:55 PM
I think when music tries to be intellectual, it takes away from itself musically. Intellect and music don't really mix. Lyrics can be intellectual, but even there I'm not so sure - I guess it depends on your definition of 'intellectual'.

Prezactly.  BUT; I think if you're a natural thinkin' feller, your music is going to reflect that no matter if it's a smooth pop hit or banging two pans together.  Witness: Daniel Johnston.  He had pop musical genius in bucketloads when the mood hit him (if a bit err... roughshod), and it's easy to tell from his lyrics that he gave them a think or two before penning them down.  Also, early punk-turned-something-else bands like Husker Du and Firehose had plenty of acumen to go around, and sounded downright sweet when they put it in gear.  

One of the big problems I have with the "Alternative" scene especially beginning around the '90's is that the word itself was in reverse, a negative. Supposedly people wanted "Alternatives to crap" ... but what if the alternative to "overpolished stadium rock crap" is ... "semi-melodic uncrafted crap"?

Nailed it.  Except you may forget that the '90s also had the major labels in a feeding frenzy for the stuff, and so along with the contract came the professional studio and (heaven forbid) a real producer that smoothed a lot of edges and made for more listenable stuff, IMHO, even as the bands themselves lost some street cred because of it.  Yes, there was a lot of crap, but a lot of gems too.  The trouble was the gems needed polishing.

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I took the music program Audacity and chopped up "What does the Fox Say?" and re-spliced the verses minus the raucous chorus and wound up with something that is surprisingly listenable.

I found the song "surprisingly listenable" all the way through.  The point of the whole song was that it was a parody of pop music.  Take the stupidest topic you can think of, dippy noises and all, and craft it into an ultimately listenable, danceable, viable POP song, because that seems to be exactly what the voices on the radio are doing.  I think they nailed it.

That's pretty much how the best band I was ever in worked. We had somebody (the lead singer) who was very creative and original - but totally clueless. He was our wild-card factor. The rest of us would take his good ideas and chord progressions (he had made up his own chord shapes - which he played badly)  and turn them into workable songs. We used to call it "the process" - or "assaying." It was a good symbiosis. A neat (occasionally brilliant) idea he lacked the knowledge to do something with got turned into a complete song. And we got that oddball riff or idea we might not have come up with ourselves since we knew better. It was a workable arrangement.

Cool story, and reminds me A LOT of the dynamic (as told by other band members) between Syd Barrett and his compatriots in Pink Floyd.

One of my quiet little hobbies is taking a song that feels "promising" but not quite right for me, and doing about one to three easy mods to it, such as chopping out an annoying part, then fiddling with the tempo and pitch. I end up with "my song". No once else has to agree with the result, though I'm sure seven people in the world would. Because once the song is given to me, I get to share in the experience. I get the artist's vision, but then their control leaves.

Congratulations, you're a "re-mix artist".  Seriously, there are some folks making careers out of the stuff.  If you come up with anything that really tickles, let us hear it.  Thmbsup

Go Chris! Thmbsup

Dude, Chris Squire's bass sound was what sold me on Rickenbackers back in the day.  Not that I could actually afford one, and I never really like their looks, but 'Roundabout' was the first song I remember actually noticing the bass sound on.  Nowadays, I know enough to know it wasn't just the Rick, but... damn.

Also, I think Elvis Costello has had a corner market on 'smart pop' for a while now.  I know he's not 'modern' anymore, but you gotta admit the guy has some pretty smooth tricks in his sleeves.
304  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 05, 2014, 01:15:02 AM
I did an internet search for "math pop" and found this pleasant little gem:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4kHvWflM6E" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4kHvWflM6E</a>
305  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Dreams thread... on: June 04, 2014, 09:36:33 PM
Which reminds me, I did have a dream the other night that I was sleeping in some sort of maximum-security building (not a prison) in Nazi Germany.  The building was like a huge concrete box, painted off-white inside with rust stains here and there showing where steel girders were embedded in the concrete, with a very high 50 ft. or so ceiling and a large window very high up and on one side.  Inside were two separate rooms (one of them mine, I never saw the other room door open) that were painted that sickly hospital green color.  The main door and the room doors were all like heavy-duty walk-in safe doors that boomed when shut and clanked reverberantly when you threw the latch.  

In the dream, the Nazis kept trying to get in the front door (unsuccessfully), so I would wake up to the sounds of them going at it with bombs, drills, battering rams, etc.  I would get up and open the door to my room (CLANK! Whoosh!), peer out and see that they still hadn't gotten in, and go back to bed (BOOM! CLANK! squeak...).  This happened many times throughout the dream, and I finally wondered why they didn't try getting in the window at about the time my alarm went off.
 huh
306  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 04, 2014, 08:51:23 PM
Speaking of the '90s and their curious abundance of bohemian intellectuals with guitars, maybe try Modest Mouse, They Might Be Giants, The Flaming Lips, The Vestibules, umm... I forget any more (they're all still around, I think).
307  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Dreams thread... on: June 04, 2014, 08:16:14 PM
Found a text file with another dream written down.

I was in a city, in a rather dirty and run down part, possibly in the late 1800's.  I was riding on my dream's version of a subway, it was like old-fashioned passenger cars with velvet seats and cast iron fixtures, rolling along tracks suspended in the air that went around the perimeter of the city.  When you wanted to get off, you were put on a side car that detached and went down another railway that curved away from the main one.

I was with a little kid who was very annoying and his mother, who was very strait-laced and a bit snooty, but quiet.  We finally got off the train together and were looking for something in the basement of a very old brick building.  The little kid was carrying a doll that was made of dirty, moulding burlap that was almost black, and had a square head with no eyes or mouth. As we wandered around the basement, trying to find whatever it was we were looking for, we suddenly heard the kid call from another room saying something about a "crackling noise".
We went into a separate room where he was and we found him pointing at a brickwork structure about 2 feet square and 3 feet tall and hollow in the middle like a short chimney.  It had some straw on the top that was burnt-looking and slightly smoking, as if someone had recently tried to set it alight, but then extinguished it.

I told him the noise he heard was from the straw burning.  "No, watch" he said, as he laid his nasty burlap doll on top of the straw.  Suddenly the doll started to swell and jerk and began smoking along with the straw.  I thought apparently the leftover heat from the burning straw was causing the strange movements, when suddenly it split open at the belly, and started to melt like burning plastic or melted cheese, all bubbly and steaming.  The kid reached out to hold up it's bubbling head, when it started speaking in his father's voice rather jovially, telling him "where the money was hid".

His mother was observing all this very coolly until the voice started up.  "Make it stop!", she suddenly snapped, "Shut it up now!".  Her expression held no fear, but a very cool and cunning expression, as if she had heard enough to know the kid's father had hidden some money, and how to go about getting her hands on it.

In my dream, I knew she was plotting to rip off the kid, and I vowed to watch her every step.
308  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 04, 2014, 07:00:48 PM
What is in the middle that is still relatively well known, but also can be appreciated by intellectuals?

Aw... that stuff went out by the late '90s  Grin

Besides, today it isn't just a matter of tuning to your local station or reading Rolling Stone or Spin.  No, now you have to plumb the depths of Soundcloud, Reverbnation, or any of the other myriad "upload your music and gain a following" websites.  I'm really sorry I can't suggest anything, but I would perhaps look up interviews with smart pop folks (see 40Hz's list) and what they are listening to nowadays.

My vote might be European melodic metal, soft or hard to your taste.

Just as one fun example:
Blind Guardian Nightfall

 Cool
309  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Trend Micro's Rik Ferguson says ISPs should quarantine infected computers on: June 03, 2014, 09:55:24 PM
Umm... yeah. 'Cause, like, this will totally work...

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ISPs on an on-going basis should take advantage of the threat intelligence feeds of the security industry to identify compromised systems connected to their networks. Those systems should be moved to quarantine, the account owners should be contacted and directed to resources which will enable them to clean up and rectify the situation. Until such time as the infection is remediated the computer should be able to access only limited Internet resources. Don’t care will be made to care.


Emphasis mine.


from CodeProject News
310  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Apple debuts new programming language for iOS: Swift on: June 03, 2014, 09:24:15 PM
Mommy!  All my friends have at least two languages, can't we get another one, too?  Please?  Huh?  Can we, huh?

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Swift is a new programming language for iOS and OS X apps that builds on the best of C and Objective-C, without the constraints of C compatibility. Swift adopts safe programming patterns and adds modern features to make programming easier, more flexible, and more fun. Swift’s clean slate, backed by the mature and much-loved Cocoa and Cocoa Touch frameworks, is an opportunity to reimagine how software development works.


And a free ebook on the language can be downloaded via iTunes here -> https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/id881256329?mt=11


from CodeProject News
311  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Gamify your coding with Codeivate on: June 03, 2014, 09:06:18 PM
The last thing I need; a reminder of how much I'm NOT coding...  embarassed

Doesn't support very many text editors and IDEs, yet.

I can't find info on the site of what editors/IDEs it DOES support.  Got a link?  If it can hook into Lazarus or Geany, I might give it a shot.

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Works with Sublime text 2 & 3
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312  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: June 03, 2014, 08:58:46 PM

Whoa, someone updated it for iOS and Android.  My "fix" is still relevant, though:
http://www.donationcoder....m/index.php?topic=25865.0
313  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: June 03, 2014, 12:45:40 AM
Creepy website about Nanotechnology:

http://www.nanoandme.org/home/

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I guess what's so creepy to me is the overwhelming sense that it's a total propaganda engine intended to smooth over people's fears of nanotechnology while giving them little factoids to say "See? It's not so bad, now is it?".

*shivers* 
314  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies or films you've seen lately on: May 31, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
I watched Maleficent yesterday.  I have to say I quite liked it.  Not the best movie I've ever seen, but not half bad, better than most folk story "re-tellings" I've seen.  Angelina Jolie does a laudable job as Maleficent, and fits the character as she creates.  I would have liked to have seen more character development of King Stefan, as he has a fairly big role without a whole lot of support.  Also insert your standard complaints about CG ruining good filmmaking, etc.  Not the worst I've seen, though.  Any more said, and I'd be spoiling it.  Go see it if you have nothing else to do, and the PG-age children in your life are up for some decent theater entertainment.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-XO4XiRop0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-XO4XiRop0</a>
315  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Groundhog Day Loops on: May 31, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
Exit Log
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Time travel will be invented in 2247.
It is limited to 3 minutes travel into the past.
A "Timedrive" wil become an emergency safety feature on all space vessels.
On activation, the Timedrive resets everything on the ship by 3 minutes.
Everything except the warning message left in the exit log.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndOye0W6HEI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndOye0W6HEI</a>

Very Kafka, I must say...  Thmbsup


Found at Short of the Week
316  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: WinXP registry hack enables further security updates on: May 31, 2014, 06:24:58 PM
I'm actually with you on that, but how long before the "Non-Windows XP" updates come out that will not install on anything but Embedded and Server 2003?  I do believe that time is coming...
317  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Micro-Fundraiser for the Official DonationCoder CodyMobile! on: May 31, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Awesome lookin' ride so far.  Thmbsup What kinds of repairs does it need?  Nothing major, I hope (as in, transmission/engine work, body work, complicated electrical work).

318  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: WinXP registry hack enables further security updates on: May 31, 2014, 03:07:04 PM
Microsoft says "Don't do it" because the updates are actually for different versions of Windows (though, admittedly, 'variants' of XP) and may be a bit on the unsafe side:
http://www.tomshardware.c...istry-embedded,26882.html
http://www.cnet.com/news/...windows-xp-security-hack/

Make of that what you will, I'm only interested because my lovely wife is still on XP, and is seriously considering letting me install Linux on her creaky desktop  tellme
319  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: Linux Foundataion's $2400 Intro to Linux course to be offered online for free on: May 31, 2014, 02:38:04 PM
...
This is a serious intro for people with no Linux experience. Or for self-taught Linux users who worry they may not be aware of everything they should know about their chosen OS.

I get that feeling every time I open up Machtelt Garrels' Introduction to Linux or the Bash Reference Manual
So much to learn, so little brain cells... Sad

Thanks for the heads up, I'll most likely be registering, especially since it's now free. Thmbsup
320  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me! on: May 31, 2014, 02:16:15 PM
One of the guitarists in my old group owned it's cousin the Deacon. None of us were in love with the sound of the thing. (It was kinda harsh played through a SuperTwin Reverb.) And it wasn't any more comfortable or balanced than a Strat was. But what the heck - if you like it, go for it!

I had my eye on them since seeing ads from the '70s, then in '93 or so had the delicious golden opportunity to actually play one, and was immediately sold.  It felt solid and comfortable and played like no other guitar I'd ever tried.  The guitar store turned down my credit or else it'd be mine right now, as well as the Mesa Boogie Mark IIc twin I played it through.  Amps and guitars should be 'matched', IMO.  The only guitars I've ever gotten to sound "right" through a Fender were either a classic Telecaster or a semi-hollow body by Gretsch or Gibson.  Never gotten single coils to sound right through a Mesa of any stripe.  I know there will be lots of folks disagreeing, but they also forget that Sound (capital 'S') is always subjective.  Wink

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That said, having personally had a shot at playing both a Deacon and a Klein, the Deacon is to a Klein as KittyHawk is to an SR-71 Blackbird. No comparison in terms of design, construction, finish or materials.

Well, my that is a bit harsh of a comparison, but then again, I've never played a Klein, so I'd never know.  Breadwinner/Deacon's were more of a mass-produced thing anyways, whereas the Klein seemed almost like a limited production art piece, so yeah... embarassed
321  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Anyone using CherryTree for Windows, or Linux for that matter? on: May 30, 2014, 02:50:52 AM
I'm using TreeLine at the mo, but have Cherrytree on the back burner.  There are LOTS of hierarchical note-taking apps around, much more than there were when I was using Notecase before they went pay-fer.  So if CherryTree doesn't work out, you still have quite a few options...
322  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me! on: May 30, 2014, 02:37:00 AM
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BTW, Jody's guitar is a (Steve) Klein in case anybody's wondering "What in the name of all that's holy is he playing???" (Most guitarists do btw.  Grin)
 (see attachment in previous post)
Awesome! tellme

Aww, yeah!  The boilerplate design for years of ergonomic guitar designs.  I remember that short time in the late early 80s when some guitar makers experimented with ergonomics (remember fan frets?) just before the hair farmers and their ridiculously pointy guitars showed up and trashed the place... Thmbsup

My ideal ergonomic six-string mademoiselle would be the Klein's inspiration, the Ovation Breadwinner.
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* Edvard drools salaciously

I saw Roy Clark playing a VERY rare 12-string model of the BW's upscale cousin, the Deacon, on a video of his concert in Russia.  The dude was AMAZING!  He put his own spin on a Russian folk tune and in the process broke prolly 7 of the 12 strings but just pushed them out of the way and kept rippin'.  That was the first time I put "Roy Clark" and "awesome guitarist" in the same box, and it wasn't the last.

I couldn't find the Russian concert video on Youtube, but here's the man doing something else awesome:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxDQQDF6j0Y" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxDQQDF6j0Y</a>
323  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Show us a picture of your.. CAR!!! on: May 28, 2014, 08:59:33 PM
Wow, never heard of the Elio before.  Immediately reminded me of Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion car.  Something tells me Bucky would be proud of Elio's endeavors.  Kiss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_car

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlLZE23EJKs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlLZE23EJKs</a>
324  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: Linux Glass on: May 28, 2014, 07:09:04 PM
If I turn on compositing in Xfce, I have pretty good control over what is transparent and what is not, and by how much.  Not a look I could really get into, but with the right theme, it was pleasant.  Compositing usually runs with a lot of overhead and isn't supported by the open-source AMD driver, and for the life of me I can't get the proprietary drivers to work on my video card, so for now, I can't run compositing to make any suggestions.

Nice pics though, thanks for sharing!  Thmbsup
325  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me! on: May 28, 2014, 06:58:38 PM
He had my immediate attention when I saw that his bass was strung upside-down, even though he has a left-handed bass.  That tells me he must have learned on a righty before he new better, which also tells me he wanted to play bad enough that he'd rather learn that way than have to wait for proper gear.  Sometimes there's magic in that.  Cool

I knew a guy who learned how to play drums by mimicking his favorite drummers on MTV (back when they still played music videos 24/7  undecided ).  It was years before he figured out he had the snare drum on the "wrong" side.  Thmbsup
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