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Living Room / Re: More Abuses of Technology - Government Surveillance - Computer Confiscation
« on: May 18, 2008, 09:08 PM »
It sounds like mankind has just wasted last 300 years of path to democracy. It is also sad to see that some people would be blindly happy to bring middle ages back in the name of freedom and soverign nation concept.

-kartal (May 18, 2008, 08:50 PM)
Geez
For the umpteenth time, the United States is not a democracy, it's a representative republic. Hence the reason we have congress critters, senators and the electoral college.
We elect people to represent us and do what is best to secure the nation and oversee the needs of the citizens.
If we don't like it we elect someone else to do the job.
Btw we are not talking about "search", we are talking about confiscating people`s laptops and their content. So I think that that was another spin.
So I suppose it's a grievous human rights violation to confiscate that piece of fruit or bottles of liquor that are in your luggage too?

Who's doing the spin?

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Living Room / Re: More Abuses of Technology - Government Surveillance - Computer Confiscation
« on: May 18, 2008, 08:40 PM »
They do detain American citizens in other countries.

Do you mean that you are fine with some country unlawfully(without a search warrant and evidence) detaining an american citizen, confisacting their computer and downloading whole content of her/his laptop to their system  at their border ?

-kartal (May 18, 2008, 08:14 PM)
Hyperbole.
Anyone is subject to search at any border crossing, there is no innate human right to take anything you please anywhere in the world. Anyone who thinks so is self deluding.
There is no "warrant" necessary to search your person or belongings, the rules of search and seizure are prominently displayed at all points of entry.
Anyone has the freedom to abide by the rules or to not travel to that destination, it's all very simple really.
If you're so worried about "the gubmint" seeing what's on your laptop then leave it at home.

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Living Room / Re: More Abuses of Technology - Government Surveillance - Computer Confiscation
« on: May 18, 2008, 07:29 PM »
"And heaven forbid that a sovereign country would have the nerve to control what crosses it's own borders right?"  tell me the same thing next time someone detains an american citizen in another country ok?
-kartal (May 18, 2008, 07:10 PM)
They do detain American citizens in other countries.
Being soverign nations they also have a right to determine who and what comes into their country.
I guess it's only evil if Americans do it.

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Living Room / Re: More Abuses of Technology - Government Surveillance - Computer Confiscation
« on: May 18, 2008, 06:56 PM »
Gee, so it's all the "evil gubmints" fault huh?
I suppose the consensus here is that the "evil gubmint" masterminded 911, or how about the Lockerbie bombing?
And heaven forbid that a sovereign country would have the nerve to control what crosses it's own borders right?
I suppose there's no one in the world who would wish harm on all us "enlightened, civilized" people.

I wonder what the opinions would be if there was a "911" or a "Lockerbie bombing" once a month or so. If more and more people lost others that they knew and loved?
Then people would be screaming for the "evil gubmint" to do something.

No winners possible here are there?

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Living Room / Re: To Compress or not to compress
« on: May 14, 2008, 09:40 PM »
Last, iirc there's some fragmentation-related issues once you enable NTFS compression, but I can't remember the details and I'm not in the mood for googling it up 
No biggy, like I said, just interested in the users here.
I can google around also but I'm more interested in personal takes on it.

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