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1501  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 18, 2011, 04:52:21 PM
Thanks for the new release!

Some comments follow:

Preferred file extension changed from .ini to .wbuc (WinButtons Configuration)
If .wbuc is now the preferred file extension, do you think it would make sense for the default WinButtons.ini to be renamed to use the new file extension?

Quote from: Ath
WinButtonEdit 0.9.0.0 (RC6)
Buttons can now be moved between groups (Treeview context menu)
This worked for me.

Quote from: Ath
WBE supports Drag&Drop, configurable for either a single file or multiple files into multiple (new) WBE sessions (details in the readme)
This works for me sometimes.  My current guess is that it works for .wbuc files but not .ini files.

BTW, regarding the WBE drag and drop feature, what I had in mind originally was dragging and dropping on to the .exe and not a running instance -- though this is nice too smiley  Sorry if my phrasing was unclear / wrong.  Do you think this "drop on to .exe" feature is a possibility?
1502  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: DOS Batch Functions Tutorial on: June 18, 2011, 04:24:49 PM
Thanks for the offer  smiley

Perhaps I'll attempt another round at searching, but I start to wonder whether it's such a wise idea for me to make a habit out of using a tool which doesn't appear to be maintained...hmmm...
1503  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Where have all the trackballs gone! on: June 18, 2011, 09:48:02 AM
I'm still using a Kensington Expert Mouse (haven't figured out why its named that when it's a trackball...) and it seems to work ok in both left- and right-handed configurations.  From a balance perspective, somehow it seems to make sense to me for the pointing device to be on the left side as most (?) keyboards that have a numeric keypad have that on the right side.

(As a former Thinkpad user, I'm fine for some kind of pointing device to be in the middle of my keyboard, but the skin on my fingers doesn't seem to agree with me on this matter.)
1504  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: DOS Batch Functions Tutorial on: June 18, 2011, 05:49:54 AM
Never figured out how to have a batch file have a custom icon, whereas this is possible for an exe.
1505  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 17, 2011, 04:56:01 PM
Thanks for the clarification, status update, and your continued efforts!

Good luck with testing  smiley
1506  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: DOS Batch Functions Tutorial on: June 17, 2011, 04:16:59 PM
I've been using a little freebie called BatchCompiler for some years, as a way to lock down batchfiles against casual modification and ensure maximum portability. (Can't remember where I got it now, and the readme only quotes the author's name -- Ricardo Arias -- but hey, Google is your friend.)
Apparently, I wasn't Google's really good friend today Sad

But I came across the following instead on a thread that mentioned BatchCompiler:

  Bat To Exe Converter

Haven't tried it yet though.
1507  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 17, 2011, 03:54:06 PM
BTW, any chance of being able to drop WinButtons config files on WinButtonEdit.exe to have the config file opened up in WBE?
Would you expect it to run 3 instances of WBE, if 3 files are dropped on a single instance, or just open the first and ignore the rest?
I think the former would be more useful, but wonder about the potential persistence-consistency issue for multiple instances of WBE running...When I wrote my request, I was sloppy in my wording.  What I had in mind might be more accurately described by:

"...any chance of being able to drop a WinButtons config file on WBE to have the config file opened up in WBE"
1508  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 17, 2011, 03:47:46 PM
Regarding the file extension topic, while I can appreciate the convenience of file associations, I'd prefer that it not be a requirement for a system's registry to be modified for my own case and I'm willing to forgo the convenience.  So...do you think there will still be a portable version of the application available?
1509  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: DOS Batch Functions Tutorial on: June 17, 2011, 04:00:31 AM
The book "Windows NT Shell Scripting" by Timothy Hill has about the best coverage of how to do complex processing with batch files that I've come across (get a used/remaindered one for the cost of shipping).

FWIW, Chapter 5 appears to be online.

Quote from: mwb1100
AutoHotKey (and friends) is one of the exceptions as I understand it - build the script to an exe and nothing else is needed on the end-user's machine (I imagine that's one of the reasons it's quite popular on DC's coding snacks).

If I may digress a bit... smiley

Curious who you regard as "friends" -- AutoIt3 perhaps?  Any others?

Some things that I found attractive about AHK / AutoIt3 included:

  • Conditions of use (e.g. free to obtain and produced output freely usable)
  • Relatively small resulting exe
  • Actively developed with a community of users
  • Decent selection of reusable code / libraries

For the things I checked some months ago, other things didn't seem to match these  -- e.g. as I understand it, it's possible to create single exes for Perl and Python, but I don't think the results end up nearly as small as for AHK / AutoIt3.  IDLE (based on Lua) seemed to produce relatively small exes, but the last time I checked there didn't seem to be much of a community and development didn't seem terribly active.  Not sure about Factor yet -- still need to see how big the resulting exes are.

Curious to hear others thoughts on this topic...perhaps another topic / thread is in order...
1510  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: DOS Batch Functions Tutorial on: June 17, 2011, 03:14:57 AM
I found the following section tricky:

  Returning Local Variables - How to pass return values over the ENDLOCAL barrier
1511  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: Release: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands: WinButtons 3.2.1 on: June 16, 2011, 07:55:24 PM
So, a usable solution for the non-functional Close button on Windows XP was found: It shouldn't be combined with the movable option. Grin
In this particular case (XP, and options: border, closebutton and movable) the movable option is ignored. 'movable' was originally implemented to be able to move a border-less WinButtons window, but the caption bar is available so the window can still be moved around the screen (the movable option could easily be mis-interpreted undecided)

I think I get it -- if I choose both closebutton and movable, I won't be able to move the window via the border, but for the close button to show up the border option needs to be specified, and if that's specified, there will be a caption bar, and if there's a caption bar that can be used to move the window...

That is what I see with the latest update and that seems fine to me.

Quote from: Ath
Also fixed was the defective :dropItem1: feature

Thanks!  Tested it here and seems to be working  Thmbsup

Quote from: Ath
I'll be searching for a final solution for this Closebutton/movable/Windows XP combination-issue...

Good luck!
1512  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 16, 2011, 04:52:48 PM
Thanks for the status update.  I wish you luck in your search smiley
1513  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 16, 2011, 04:22:57 PM
Glad to hear that the drop-related thing was nothing major smiley

I can find no issues with either the Close button or pressing <Esc> with WinButtons having focus. Is there perhaps an extra (older) instance of WinButtons running that's waiting for a condition/hanging/cycling perpetually? (You could check that using Process Explorer or Task manager)
I don't think there was, and I reproduced the issue just now.  I am also running XP SP3.  Similar results to cranioscopical -- pressing the escape key works while clicking on the close button doesn't seem to.

Quote
Update will be posted later this evening.

Sounds good.

BTW, any chance of being able to drop WinButtons config files on WinButtonEdit.exe to have the config file opened up in WBE?  That doesn't seem to work here.
1514  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Difficulties with JottiQ & Virus Total on: June 16, 2011, 04:02:15 PM
No I haven't -- hasn't occurred to me to be something that they don't know about.
1515  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 16, 2011, 07:54:15 AM
No hurry on this end -- hope your investigation goes well smiley
1516  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Difficulties with JottiQ & Virus Total on: June 16, 2011, 07:52:07 AM
FWIW, I encountered uploading difficulties using the uploader program from virustotal.  That's my main mode of interaction with them.  Is there some reason the uploader would give better uploading experiences?
1517  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Difficulties with JottiQ & Virus Total on: June 16, 2011, 04:52:29 AM
I also occasionally have difficulty with uploading to at least virustotal.  After a few incidents I think I was under the impression that it had to do with the time of day I was making the attempts -- but this is just speculation.
1518  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 16, 2011, 04:44:50 AM
I'm having trouble getting :dropItem: / :dropItem1: to work.  Using the following ini file, I don't see notepad opening the files I drop on the WinButtons button:

Formatted for INI with the GeSHI Syntax Highlighter [copy or print]
  1. [Settings]
  2. left=-1
  3. top=-1
  4. closebutton=1
  5. border=1
  6. taskbar=1
  7. movable=1
  8. [Buttons]
  9. button1=New Button 1
  10. dropcommand1=notepad.exe :dropItem1:
  11. caption1=New Button 1

Am I doing something wrong?

FWIW, using :dropList: (example below), I see the behavior I expected for :dropItem: / :dropItem1:

Formatted for INI with the GeSHI Syntax Highlighter [copy or print]
  1. [Settings]
  2. left=-1
  3. top=-1
  4. closebutton=1
  5. border=1
  6. taskbar=1
  7. movable=1
  8. [Buttons]
  9. button1=New Button 1
  10. dropcommand1=notepad.exe :dropList:
  11. caption1=New Button 1
1519  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 16, 2011, 04:14:14 AM
Trying out WinButtons (3.2.0.1) with an ini made via WinButtonsEdit (0.8.4.1):

Formatted for INI with the GeSHI Syntax Highlighter [copy or print]
  1. [Settings]
  2. left=-1
  3. top=-1
  4. closebutton=1
  5. border=1
  6. taskbar=1
  7. movable=1
  8. [Buttons]
  9. button1=New Button 1
  10. command1=notepad.exe
  11. caption1=New Button 1

Clicking on the close button does not appear to have any visible effect.
1520  DonationCoder.com Software / Coding Snack Guidelines / Re: idea: make scroll lock <say> remap arrow key functions to page,home, end etc. on: June 16, 2011, 01:33:28 AM
Thank you both for the feedback smiley

I was intrigued that the AutoIt3 docs for HotKeySet list F12 under "The following hotkeys cannot be set":

  http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/docs/functions/HotKeySet.htm

My opinion on this so far has been that it makes sense to be able to configure things to make it possible to use F12, but that I'd tend to shy away from making something F12 by default.

Really, I wish there were some comprehensive and consistent guidelines for this sort of thing Sad
1521  DonationCoder.com Software / Coding Snack Guidelines / Re: idea: make scroll lock <say> remap arrow key functions to page,home, end etc. on: June 15, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
I hope a digression regarding F12 will be tolerated smiley

I've been curious about F12, especially what's mentioned at:

  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms646309%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Quote
The F12 key is reserved for use by the debugger at all times, so it should not be registered as a hot key. Even when you are not debugging an application, F12 is reserved in case a kernel-mode debugger or a just-in-time debugger is resident.

Any reflections regarding this?

I've seen it used elsewhere (e.g. Irfanview)...
1522  DonationCoder.com Software / Coding Snack Guidelines / Re: idea: make scroll lock <say> remap arrow key functions to page,home, end etc. on: June 15, 2011, 02:31:28 PM
PS. Ironically named key, don't you think?  "Fn" as in "how can I reach that "effin" key?!" !!!!!!    cheesy
Ha ha ha ha ha  Grin
1523  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 15, 2011, 06:25:28 AM
Ah, thanks for the pointer!

Your version looks fine to me smiley
1524  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands on: June 15, 2011, 05:38:15 AM
I had difficulty reading WinButtons.Readme.txt -- perhaps it is related to the default formatting, my display, how I set up my editors, etc.

Attached, please find an attempt at an alternate view of the file in question.  Not the easiest thing to create / maintain perhaps...
1525  DonationCoder.com Software / Screenshot Captor / Re: LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - ScreenshotCaptor - 2.95.01 - June 6, 2011 on: June 15, 2011, 03:02:09 AM
If you mean the movie viewable via:

  http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/screenshotcaptor/Movie_ScreenshotCaptor/ScreenShotCaptor4.html

I also noticed the movie stopping shortly after hearing something like:

  "Let me just bring up some windows here..."

I tried this with relatively recent versions of FF, Chromium, and Midori -- viewing a downloaded version of the movie.  FWIW, I was able to hear further using smplayer.

May be the screencasts for ScreenshotCaptor mentioned in the topic / thread:

  http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=19375.0

can work as substitutes.  I think they may be more recent too.
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