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26  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 30, 2014, 08:54:52 AM
@lanux128:
Figuring that it couldn't hurt, I ran the repair tool from Download Microsoft .NET Framework Repair Tool from Official Microsoft Download Center
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(Supports repairing the .NET Framework 4.5.1, 4.5, 4 and 3.5 SP1 (includes .NET 3.0 SP2 and .NET 2.0 SP2).
Then I reran the 02 SQLEXPR_x64_ENU - v11.0.3000.0 (Express DB only 64-bit).exe
Result: It still abended with the same error as before.

@4wd: I do not have a directory C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\110\Setup Bootstrap\Log
(You missed out an "o" in "Microsoft" there.)
27  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: MS Office 2013 US$9.95 Corporate/Enterprise Home Use Program - Mini-Review on: March 30, 2014, 08:12:56 AM
...I had to track down the reason for explorer.exe intermittently restarting (not crashing - restarting) and programs routinely hanging for anywhere from seconds to over a minute. In the end it all turned out to be DWM.exe causing the problems. Explorer would restart after not getting a response for a certain amount of time from DWM. Likewise, when the Windows Task Manager told me some other program was hanging, if I checked in System Explorer it told me it was actual DWM. Once again, restart DWM.exe and the problem was solved.

I'm unsure whether it was the same issue, but I recall reading recently something to the effect that the root cause of a particular crash/hang/restart problem was an inadequate WAIT time interval being set for a service to respond via an I/O bus somewhere. Once you set the WAIT to a longer time interval, the problem went away. The WAIT was specified in the Registry somewhere. Sorry I can't be more specific. I would have made a note of it if it had been relevant to my setup. I shall try and find it and will post it up here if I do. ...
_________________________________

I have tracked this down. I had been trying to fix a problem where the laptop display would hang and then Firefox would crash.
Searches showed 2 relevant hits:

That's where I read that by altering certain Registry keys you can effect a change to the Timeout Detection and Recovery of GPUs.
28  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 29, 2014, 09:46:18 PM
@x16wda + @Shades:
Thanks for the suggestion/reminder. I meant to check  the Powershell version. Here 'tis: (not identical to what @x16wda gave, but same S/V)
Formatted for Generic Code with the GeSHI Syntax Highlighter [copy or print]
  1. Name                           Value                                                                                
  2. ----                           -----                                                                                
  3. PSVersion                      3.0                                                                                  
  4. WSManStackVersion              3.0                                                                                  
  5. SerializationVersion           1.1.0.1                                                                              
  6. CLRVersion                     4.0.30319.18444                                                                      
  7. BuildVersion                   6.2.9200.16481                                                                        
  8. PSCompatibleVersions           {1.0, 2.0, 3.0}                                                                      
  9. PSRemotingProtocolVersion      2.2    
29  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 29, 2014, 06:18:07 PM
@4wd and others: I just found the log file, and inserted the details into my post above, for completeness. It was in C:\TEMP  ... (Doh!).
Sorry, I would have found it earlier using Everything search, but my tired mind had forgotten I had left the Enable Regex switch ON, and I only just now discovered that ...    embarassed
Amazing how a good night's sleep can unfuddle one's mind.

@x16wda: Thanks for the helpful comments. I found it all a bit confusing, but after reading all the references I could find, the situation seems to be that:
  • Either .NET Framework 3.5 or 4.0 is a prerequisite for the Express install, but both are not necessary.
  • Thus, if you don't have the prerequisite .NET Framework 3.5, then .NET Framework 4.0 is a prerequisite for the Express install. This (.NET 4.0) is fortunately already included in Windows 7 SP1 (e.g. my configuration) by default.
  • Powershell is not defined a prerequisite for the Express install (as far as I am aware) and is already in Windows 7 SP1 (e.g. my configuration) by default anyway.

It sometimes seem to me that if MS had deliberately wanted to make the conditional logic for installing their "FREE" proggies so tortuous, then they probably couldn't have done much better than seems to have been achieved in the case of this Express install. Then again, maybe it was just a screwed up afterthought (i.e., not originally planned) to offer the FREE Express install. It'll be great if/when I can get it working...     Sad
30  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: March 29, 2014, 07:21:42 AM
Picture apparently recovered from a camera in the wreckage of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 may shed some light on the possible cause of the accident:

[attach]


31  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 29, 2014, 07:06:37 AM
Computer Properties screen:

[attach]


By the way, the file I designate as 02 SQLEXPR_x64_ENU - v11.0.3000.0 (Express DB only 64-bit).exe has an MD5 sum of 1da4cc5c1711595b91e8f347ded64c33.

I ran the command:
"C:\Workdata.012 (Software)\ARCHIVE\Microsoft software\SQL 2012 Express\64-bit\02 SQLEXPR_x64_ENU - v11.0.3000.0 (Express DB only 64-bit).exe" /log c:\SQL.log

EDIT: 2014-03-30 1139hrs
The result: Abended with the usual error message, and a log file is produced in C:\TEMP:
File: SqlSetup.log:
Formatted for Generic Code with the GeSHI Syntax Highlighter [copy or print]
  1. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.694 ======================================================================
  2. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.698 Setup launched
  3. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.703 Attempting to determine media source
  4. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.704 Media source value not specified on command line argument.
  5. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.705 Setup is launched from media directly so default the value to the current folder.
  6. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.709 Media source: c:\750914361e488dc81484f630d63c\
  7. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.713 Attempt to determine media layout based on file 'c:\750914361e488dc81484f630d63c\mediainfo.xml'.
  8. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.758 Media layout is detected as: Core
  9. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.760 Media is a slipstream package
  10. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.763 Only patch related actions can run patch setup.exe, so continuing to run setup.exe from media.
  11. 03/30/2014 01:03:56.784 Error: This OS is not supported
  12. 03/30/2014 01:04:03.779 SQM key not found
  13. 03/30/2014 01:04:03.807 Setup closed with exit code: 0x84C40034
  14. 03/30/2014 01:04:03.808 ======================================================================
32  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Firefox Extensions: Your favorite or most useful on: March 29, 2014, 01:32:49 AM
I find FF Sync tremendously useful.
The latest version of FF has a new-style Sync, which makes the old one obsolete. To use the new-style Sync, you have to detach from your "old-style" Sync account (if you already have one), and set up a new-style Sync account.

This is how I did it and the information sources I used.

[attach]
33  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: FreeFileSync - automated backup - Mini-Review on: March 28, 2014, 06:49:26 AM
Just did a DuckGo search on that error:
 One relevant hit:
Quote
From: http://sourceforge.net/p/...thread/4e8a6940/?limit=50

Jim
2 days ago

Hi,
Things had been working for me until I upgraded to 6.3 but now FFS just does not start. It displays a dialog with the aforementioned message with the information: "Error Code 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. (CreateFile)"

Details: Windows 7 64bit, and nope, FreeFileSync isn't running already that I can see.

Couple of questions - firstly, anyone know straight off what might have happened smiley ?
If not - I found the file in AppData/Roaming and ran unlocker against it - it could find nothing using it.

Any help appreciated, really liked this tool.
Jim.

EDIT: I just tried uninstalling and installing a portable version. Same issue but now I have no idea where the GlobalSettings.xml file might be to have a look at it. I can't see it anywhere.
34  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 28, 2014, 06:23:23 AM
Notes re .NET Framework v3.5 (which is apparently not a prerequisite for SQL Express 2012):

[attach]

35  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 28, 2014, 04:22:15 AM
@Shades:
This is the only information I can give about the error:

[attach]


The MSDN page you link to is for Hardware and Software Requirements for Installing SQL Server 2012
It says that:
  • .NET 3.5 SP1 is a requirement for SQL Server 2012 when you select Database Engine, Reporting Services, Master Data Services, Data Quality Services, Replication, or SQL Server Management Studio, and it is no longer installed by SQL Server Setup.
  • .NET 4.0 is a requirement for SQL Server 2012. SQL Server installs .NET 4.0 during the feature installation step.


However, this apparently relates only to the SQL Server 2012 version - i.e., not SQL Express 2012 (also called SQL Server 2012 Express.

When searching for directions for installing SQL Express 2012 I kept getting confused by finding directions for installing SQL Server 2012, and misled myself into thinking they were the same thing.

My laptop meets the prerequisites for installing SQL Express 2012 - namely Windows 7 SP1.
36  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 27, 2014, 03:43:33 PM
@Vurbal:
Thanks. I just downloaded and executed the file I identify as:
02 SQLEXPR_x64_ENU - v11.0.2100.60 (Express DB only 64-bit).exe
It abended with the same error message as before.
I think I might have already tried this during my trial-and-error, but had not made a note of the version number.

By the way, the newest version that I had already tried and that abended was:
02 SQLEXPR_x64_ENU - v11.0.3000.0 (Express DB only 64-bit).exe
37  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 27, 2014, 04:21:26 AM
Thanks for all the comments.
It seems that the SQL Server Installation Center GUI (per image linked to by @x16wda) would be installed during the installation that abends in my case, which is why I never got to see it.

Though @Shades suggests that Home Premium might be the problem, it can't be, because, as @Ath points out:
Quote
For installation on a non-server version of Windows (like Win7 is) you either need the SQL Express edition, or the SQL Server Developer edition.
- and it is the correct SQL Express edition that I am trying to install here, and which install is abending.

Nevertheless, the abend error gives the exact same message as is shown in the first image of the SQL Server 2012 Express Installation Tutorial that @wraith808 links to, and yet my system spec seems to meet the defined prerequisites for installation, so the installation should proceed without error. So the problem is unclear. Evidently something about my system is being detected and flagged "wrong" during the installation.

I shall see if I can find an installation log file that might throw more light on things.
I don't really want Tabbles if I cannot have it all run locally.
38  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 26, 2014, 10:51:26 PM
...if you run the "checker" (picture here)
Can you try running the installer as admin with UAC completely disabled?
Does it absolutely require SQL2012?  You could try 2008R2 (download link here) instead and see if that is sufficient.  (Then you could run the 2012 installer to upgrade if you find yourself with too much free time!  tongue)
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Thanks for the suggestions.
1. I'd never seen that checker. Maybe that is for the full SQL not the 2012 Express version?
2. I did run the installer as admin with UAC completely disabled - same result, sadlement.
3. During trial-and-error, I did try to install SQL 2008R2, but my system is apparently out of spec. for that install. I too had thought an upgrade from there might be an easier backdoor.   cheesy
39  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Help please! - Unable to install MS SQL Express 2012 on laptop. on: March 26, 2014, 06:16:17 PM
I am trialling out a third-party product called Tabbles.
Tabbles is a sort of file tagging/categorisation tool that integrates with the Windows NTFS filing system. It can use either a proprietary Cloud-based database for the tag data, or Microsoft SQL Express.
I have installed Tabbles on a laptop with an i7 CPU, OS is Windows 7-64 Home Premium (Build 7601) with SP1, .NET Framework 4, and all updates up-to-date.
Currently, I am running the thing with Tabbles' proprietary Cloud-based database, but I want to run it with a local MS-SQL database.

Tabbles Wiki: says:
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Tabbles 3 Requirement: Microsoft SQL Server
Tabbles 3 requires the .net framework 4 (this is installed by the installer) and the Microsoft SQL Server (the free version, called "Express" works just fine).

Installing the Microsoft SQL Server Express for single users
For single users, willing to use Tabbles on a single pc, installing the Microsoft SQL Server won't be too complicated. You can download the installer here [1]. The server should work
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I don't have any practical experience of installing SQL, but it seemed like it should be straightforward.
I checked that the system where the install was to take place met the pre-requisites.
However, it does not install.
There are these 3 most recent files/versions that I could find available for download re SQL 2012 Express:
(From: https://www.microsoft.com...NOCTAV2/enus/default.aspx )
  • 01. SqlLocalDB - (Local DB 64-bit).msi
  • 02. SQLEXPR_x64_ENU - (Express DB only 64-bit).exe
  • 03. SQLEXPRWT_x64_ENU - (Express + Tools 64-bit).exe

File 02 is the one I apparently needed. It goes into the install process just fine, but just as the progress bar gets to 100% it abends with the error message:
Quote
Microsoft SQL Server 2012 Service Pack 1 Setup
The operating system on this computer does not meet the minimum requirements for SQL Server
2012. For Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008 operating systems, Service Pack 2 or later is
required. For Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2, Service Pack 1 or later is required. For more
information, see Hardware and Software Requirements for installing SQL Server 2012 at:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=195092
______________________

Trial-and-error:
  • Following the LinkID=195092 just leads me in circles (I had already established that the system where the install was to take place met the pre-requisites).
  • I tried installing File 01, and it installs (but is not of any use to me, I think).
  • I tried installing File 03, but that abended with the same error message as for File 02.
  • I tried installing what seemed to be an earlier version of the file 02 from another MS website, but that abended with the same error message as for File 02.
  • I tried DuckGo searches for problems with installing SQL 2012 Express, but could find nothing that helped or seemed close to the problem I was experiencing, or with a fix/workaround.
  • I have searched the DC Forum, but could not find anything that might help.
  • I have MySQL-for-Excel installed on the same laptop, and was unsure whether this could have been causing a conflict for the SQL Server 2012 install, but switching the MySQL off doesn't seem to make any difference to the latter install - File 02 it still abends with the same error message.

Having thus drawn a blank so far, I am posting this to see if there is anyone in the forum who could offer their practical experience of the installation of SQL 2012 Express or could suggest problem resolution re same.
40  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: March 25, 2014, 04:52:11 AM
The moral about dishonest behavior (according to philosopher P. Wilson )

A few robbers entered a bank in a small town.
One of them shouted: "Don't move! The money belongs to the bank. Your lives belong to you.”
Immediately all the people in the bank laid on the floor quietly and without panic.
This is an example of how the correct wording of a sentence can make everyone change their
view of the world.

One woman laid on the floor in a provocative manner.
The robber approached her saying, " Ma'am, this is a robbery not a rape. Please behave accordingly.”
This is an example of how to behave professionally, and focus on the goal.

While running from the bank the youngest robber (who had a college degree) said to the oldest robber
(who had barely finished elementary school): “Hey, maybe we should count how much we stole?"
The older man replied: "Don’t be stupid. It’s a lot of money so let's wait for the news on TV to find
out how much money was taken from the bank."
This is an example of how life experience is more important than a degree.

After the robbery, the manager of the bank said to his accountant: “Let’s call the cops and tell them
how much has been stolen."
“Wait”, said the Accountant, "before we do that, let's add the $800,000 we took for ourselves
a few months ago and just say that it was stolen as part of today’s robbery."
This is an example of taking advantage of an opportunity.

The following day it was reported in the news that the bank was robbed of $3 million.
The robbers counted the money, but they found only $1 million so they started to grumble.
"We risked our lives for $1 million, while the bank's management robbed two million dollars
without blinking?  Maybe its better to learn how to work the system, instead of being a simple robber.”
This is an example of how knowledge can be more useful than power.

Moral:  Give a person a gun, and he can rob a bank . Give a person a bank, and he can rob everyone ...
41  DonationCoder.com Software / DC Member Programs and Projects / Re: Clipjump - Clipboard Manager on: March 24, 2014, 03:33:03 AM
@aviaryan: Thanks. Just downloaded it now.
(I also subscribe to SourceForge update newsletters, but had not seen an update for this yet.)
42  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Hacking should be about making things on: March 23, 2014, 10:13:42 PM
Hacking should be about making things?
I had always understood that was one of the meanings of the verb "to hack".
For example, from the Microsoft Computer Dictionary (5th Ed. from 2003):
  • hack1 n.
    1. A modification to the code in a program, often made without taking the time to find an elegant solution.
    2. A sloppy job. See also kludge (definition 2), patch1.

  • hack2 vb.
    1. To apply creative ingenuity to a programming problem or project.
    2. To alter the behavior of an application or an operating system by modifying its code rather than by running the program and selecting options.

  • hacker n.
    1. A computerphile; a person who is totally engrossed in computer technology and computer programming or who likes to examine the code of operating systems and other programs to see how they work.
    2. A person, more commonly considered a cracker, who uses computer expertise for illicit ends, such as by gaining access to computer systems without permission and tampering with programs and data. Also called: cracker. See also hacktivist.

  • hacktivist n. An individual who furthers political or social agendas through hacking activity. Hacktivists may break into computer systems to disrupt traffic or cause confusion, and may alter Web pages or e-mail to display content sympathetic to a specific cause. See also hacker.
43  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: DONE: AutoHotKey solution for Desktop ListView on: March 23, 2014, 04:04:04 PM
That's rather nifty.     thumbs up
44  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered. on: March 23, 2014, 04:41:44 AM
I sometimes suspect my mother's father was correct. He felt that American technology reached its peak with the Model-T Ford and began going steadily downhill shortly after that. Grin
I don't know about its technology going steadily downhill shortly after that, but its ethics, national integrity and support of the Constitution certainly might have, by all reports...
45  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered. on: March 22, 2014, 10:25:36 PM
@40hz: That was it - Aldus, not Adobe. Thanks.
...Apparently, it's also a fascinating study in history repeating itself. smiley

Eggsaggerly. Evolutionary technology innovation/churn. A recyclable process that has no doubt made many people rich.
It was probably all Samuel Crompton's fault, when, in about 1779, he invented the spinning mule and spinning jenny, thus sparking the Industrial Revolution.
Made Britain what it is today..Oh, wait...
46  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered. on: March 22, 2014, 06:16:43 AM
...Well, to be fair, one could argue that Macs are seriously hobbled versions of computers.  Grin

Yes, an interesting point. You probably could argue that, and I would agree, but history indicates that it used to be the reverse was the case. Not all that long after the IBM PC (DOS) was introduced with its text-based Intel CPU and 80-character wide display, the Macintosh came out with a graphics-based Motorola CPU, and the Xerox-PARC GUI using a mouse. That and the applications you could get on it placed it light-years ahead of what the PC could do. For example, running MacProject, which enabled people to run Gantt/PERT project planning, and not to forget the Desktop Publishing software Adobe Aldus PageMaker.

The reasons for the Mac's apparent decline seem to hinge mainly on over-pricing (so reducing quantities sold as demand is price-elastic), an insistence on remaining a relatively closed black-box/proprietary system (so these two points led to fewer applications being developed), and considerably slowed forward technological development. The Mac thus appeals to a relatively narrow market nowadays.

The PC, on the other hand, seems to have evolved rapidly to generally catch up and then eclipse the Mac. It has become the lowest common denominator for computer technology. Especially important here is the growth in the domain of applications development - making the PC appealing to a relatively wide market. The PC has become a ubiquitous commodity with a progressively reducing price (in real terms) due to economies of large-scale production, produced to meet a correspondingly increasing demand (which is price-elastic).

It's a fascinating study in technological evolution.
47  DonationCoder.com Software / DC Member Programs and Projects / Re: Clipjump - Clipboard Manager on: March 21, 2014, 03:51:31 PM
2014-03-22 0945hrs: Just downloaded Clipjump v10.7.5 via https://sourceforge.net/projects/clipjump/files/
Download seemed to work perfectly.
I would write a review of Clipjump but I have not yet had the time to study-trial it properly and get to grips with all its multifarious features, and so would not really be able to do it justice.
48  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered. on: March 21, 2014, 02:23:17 AM
...Better late than never.  Grin
_____________________________

Yes, well, that's more or less what I thought too.     mad
The thing is, there is apparently a rather large gap between what MS advertising seems to be clearly saying is the OneNote FREE functionality (see my diagram above) and what turns out to be the actual functionality subsequently reported by others and as revealed in system error messages.
I always try to be positive and trust that people/organisations will endeavour to do their professional and honest best, with integrity.
From this discussion thread and the OutlinerSoftware.com thread, MS would seem to have disappointed on both those fronts.
So, @40hz's comments above are probably spot-on.
49  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Internet freedoms restrained - SOPA/PIPA/OPEN/ACTA/CETA/PrECISE-related updates on: March 20, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
Hypocrisy in spades...
(Copied below sans embedded hyperlinks/images.)
Quote
Even The German Government Wants Corporate Sovereignty Out Of TAFTA/TTIP | Techdirt
from the well,-at-the-moment dept

As we've noted, if there's one aspect of TAFTA/TTIP that practically everyone agrees is a bad idea, it's corporate sovereignty. Even against that background, it's still slightly surprising to read in the well-regarded German newspaper Die Zeit that the German government too wants it out of TTIP (via @FSchweitzer, original in German):
Quote
    The German federal government rejects special rights for corporations in the free trade agreement between the EU and the USA. "The federal government is doing all it can to ensure that it doesn't come to this," said the Secretary of State in the Federal Ministry of Economics, Brigitte Zypries, on Wednesday during question time in parliament. "We are currently in the consultation process and are committed to ensuring that the arbitration tribunals are not included in the agreement," said Ms Zypries.
_________________

The Secretary of State then went on to make a point many others have emphasized:
Quote
    "The German federal government's view is that the U.S. offers investors from the EU sufficient legal protection in its national courts," said the SPD politician Zypries. Equally, U.S. investors in Germany have sufficient legal protection through German courts. "From the beginning, the federal government has examined critically whether such a provision should be included in the negotiations for a free trade agreement," Zypries said.
_________________
Corporate sovereignty measures were added to earlier bilateral agreements when the legal systems of the country receiving foreign investment raised issues about their independence or where there was a fear that local governments might expropriate property with impunity. Neither can seriously be considered a risk in the case of the EU and US, and so investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) is redundant, as the German government recognizes here.

If this really is Germany's view, it will have major consequences for the negotiations, since the European Commission won't be able to get TAFTA/TTIP accepted by the EU without Germany's full support. There remains some room for doubt, though, as the German Secretary of State also said:
Quote
    arbitration tribunals of this kind should only be brought in as a last resort after exhausting all legal remedies brought in national courts.
_________________

If ISDS is excluded from TTIP, then that comment makes no sense, since there won't be the option to turn to supra-national tribunals after exhausting the legal process in national courts. So maybe Germany expects to be "persuaded" by concessions from the European Commission to change its mind at some point. But even if the German government is not totally abandoning the idea of corporate sovereignty, the fact that a senior politician is prepared to go on the record with the comments quoted above is significant. Germany's leaders obviously feel the need to distance themselves from ISDS, which is fast turning into a serious political liability.
50  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: March 20, 2014, 04:48:16 PM
"Over the years, I have managed to keep body and spirit together, but am finding the spirit increasingly expensive..."
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