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326  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Free ebook available for download from Microsoft on: October 21, 2013, 04:54:08 PM
Took a while to find a solution (but I'm happy to find that there is a way of avoiding it) - thought it was worth some publicity so made a new thread:
http://www.donationcoder....m/index.php?topic=36379.0

 Kiss
327  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 21, 2013, 03:34:01 PM
I had these two computers I had five XP machines in my house, and I could access ALL files from any one of the others. And I did not have the same user ID and password on more than one. Did it like that for a few years. So I don’t know why there's a discrepancy between what you say has always been the case and what I was doing!

Probably got lucky with the OOB default of having Simple File Sharing enabled, which shares everything with everyone IIRC. Closest thing to that in 7 is a HomeGroup.

...But if I say HomeGroup one more time I think 40hz is going to shoot me. cheesy
328  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Free ebook available for download from Microsoft on: October 21, 2013, 03:20:56 PM
^It is annoying. So do what I did. Open a new Microsoft account - and lie! Cool

There is no profit in encouraging bad behavior. If you lie, the Corporate Masters only see that their draconian mandate is being accepted as the list of signed up sheeple names grows. Conversely, if you flatten the box to return to personal computing, and then line their driveway with bags of flaming poo...the message gets much clearer. I really do enjoy making people regret pressing me for personal information IRL.


Oh yeah... embarassed ... Thanks for the book link.  The subject matter just caught me (in a ranting mood) at a bad time.
329  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Free ebook available for download from Microsoft on: October 21, 2013, 11:37:40 AM
Any chance it mentions how to log into 8.1 OOB without having/using/needing a Microsoft account. I ran out of time last night upgrading my laptop and stopped just short of tossing it out a window because of that little nuance.


Dear Microsoft,
  It really is My Computer, so please shove the NSA infested cloud requirement up you ass.

Thank you,

Stoic Joker
330  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 21, 2013, 11:29:09 AM
No, I don’t have users setup on each machine for each of us. That was never a requirement on past OS's. Something new on Windows 7?

That has always* been the (incredibly annoying) case for workgroup file sharing for the reasons given by mwb1100 above. Only alternative would be to go the Home Group route which allows machines to pre-authenticate via group membership.

*By always I mean NT4 and up, since Win9x was a DOS not a NOS and therefore doesn't count.
331  Special User Sections / DC Website Help and Extras / Re: I want a badge. on: October 19, 2013, 07:31:08 AM
FURRY! Grin Cool Be furry!  Thmbsup

I tried that once, but the link didn't seem to work...so I gave up.
332  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Have you played with this type of database? on: October 19, 2013, 07:17:03 AM
If such a converter doesn't exist, try to get the database software itself and run it in a virtual machine with the correct OS for the database server. Most database servers that run on Windows can be accessed through ODBC. Using that you should be able to retrieve data from the old beast and put it again in a database that is supported for a while, such as  Oracle and Microsoft (maybe IBM?).

We think alike here. smiley

I did a quick google search and found these:
http://stason.org/TULARC/...-Object.html#.UmJ0cxvD_cs (mentions 1995 and gives name of companies site)

http://www.neo4j.org/download (Not sure if this is the current version of the product, but it does have a free demo)

http://web.archive.org/we.../http://www.neologic.com/ (web.archive.org takes us back to the companies site from 1996)

Note: While the (ftp) download links don't appear to be working anymore ... They do at least give the downloads filename. So if you do a bit of spelunking it could be possible to find the down in someone else's archive.
333  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 18, 2013, 03:12:06 PM
^4. Do all of the user accounts used have passwords? (blank passwords cause a silent fail for share connections after XP SP2)
334  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: October 18, 2013, 06:57:12 AM
I do wonder what it tastes like though.

On the way up, or down ... Because it can't possibly sit well.
335  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Internet freedoms restrained - SOPA/PIPA/OPEN/ACTA/CETA/PrECISE-related updates on: October 18, 2013, 06:53:44 AM
US politics are a complete mystery to me.

Don't feel bad, we can't figure them out either. Best I can tell it's a lot like bobbing for apples that are floating in a tank of flaming gasoline ... You can't win without getting burned.
336  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What's up with Flash crashing all the time lately? on: October 17, 2013, 11:32:24 AM
So how do we sum up everyone's feelings about Flash??

How about this:
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337  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 15, 2013, 11:14:52 PM
Hmmm...one minor complication...I need a Windows Server flavored OS to create a domain.  So I need to make a new machine?  Or run one on a VM?

Yes and no. The Hyper-V host machine should never be a member of the domain it's hosting. This is because it should be a dedicated (to Hyper-V hosting) box (e.g. no AD), and therefore it can't login and authenticate to a domain controller that isn't running yet. So you either run the Hyper-V server(s) in a workgroup, or (if you need to use high-end stuff like Live Migration) in a separate domain.

I currently have 3 physical servers in the rack at the office. The two Hyper-V servers are in a completely separate domain from the production systems, and authenticate to a DC that runs as a VM on the third server which is basically an orphan. The production systems consist of 20 virtual servers for load balancing and redundancy and are spread across the two physical servers.

Having the DC start first is easy enough if the usual trifecta (AD, DNS, DHCP) is the only thing running on the VM, and the other systems are set to wait a minute or two before booting.

Your desire for ultra flexible drive usage may complicate this a bit as added/removed drives would need to sort out which system (physical/virtual/both) they were going to be accessible to.

Or run two DCs, one physical on cheapo hardware to allow the main host system (and guests) to boot cleanly, and one virtual to keep the domain intact in case the budget physical box decides to grenade some day down the road.

Warning: Virtualization is highly addictive!!
338  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 15, 2013, 03:53:54 PM
While not related to permissions per se, that makes it a real PITA to add a network location to a library. That may even be the point although that would be stupid. Especially since you can get around it by creating a regular folder, adding it to a library, then deleting the folder and creating a symlink with the same name. Now the target of the symlink, network location or not, is in the library and can be accessed accordingly.

It's the indexing that queers the deal there. If you make the folder available offline, it adds to a library just fine because the system will then be able to index locally via the CSC.

Just distracted mostly. I can only focus on one thing at a time and that's rounding up.  ohmy

hehe me too ... I multitask about as well as statues dance.
339  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: October 15, 2013, 01:49:37 PM
Samuel Adams I haven't tried

That's good stuff, give it a shot. It's a dark beer so it's heavy but not thick.
340  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 15, 2013, 01:12:51 PM
While not related to permissions per se, that makes it a real PITA to add a network location to a library. That may even be the point although that would be stupid. Especially since you can get around it by creating a regular folder, adding it to a library, then deleting the folder and creating a symlink with the same name. Now the target of the symlink, network location or not, is in the library and can be accessed accordingly.

It's the indexing that queers the deal there. If you make the folder available offline, it adds to a library just fine because the system will then be able to index locally via the CSC.
341  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 15, 2013, 01:10:05 PM
You still a bit tired there V? Because you quoted the wrong post. cheesy


Either way, I hear Ya man! Thmbsup
342  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: October 15, 2013, 01:06:52 PM
About beer & drinking in the US:

http://www.businessinside...te-beers-by-state-2013-10

A couple fun infographics there.

If Blue Moon is Americas favorite "beer" than it's only because they've been slamming placements for it in half the shows on TV ... Because it tastes like orange flavored Windex (e.g. shit).

I call BS on this one.
343  Other Software / DC Gamer Club / Re: UBER-CRYPTO CURRENCY COOLNESS! FOR GAMES! on: October 15, 2013, 01:00:46 PM
So now it could finally be legal to say I shoot people for a living ...(my my)... Will the wonders of technology never cease?
344  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Pirates Jump on “The Walking Dead” Despite Legal Options on: October 15, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
So why not just use the delivery system people seem to rather obviously prefer instead of trying to handle the traffic spicks and bandwidth hits themselves?

Even if they did, they wouldn't use open torrents.  So, the effect wouldn't be the same.

If the habit is to go to Pirate Bay or to use a torrent aggregator, then the fact that its available elsewhere won't change that habit.

Yes asking the MSM to use a little sense and release their free stuff on Pirate Bay would be a bit too much to ask. However if they just put the stuff on one of the more reputable torrent sites...or (Gasp!) started their own ... then the aggregators would have a chance to pickup the feeds and people could end up switching with out even realizing it. Whoever's got the best stuff wins Ya know? Wink

But no they just want to rap it in more layers of even more silly assed commercials advertising and nonsense instead. Much like the DVDs that don't let you skip the 15 minute previews to get on with watching the movie you already friggin paid for.
345  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 15, 2013, 12:45:16 PM
Replacing a DC is no problem really, just build a fresh server and run dcpromo to make the new one and then dcpromo the old one to remove it.  Just make sure to have DNS installed on the new box before promotion and point it to the old one for DNS, then when the new DC is happy (always seems to take an extra reboot for me) point everything to it for DNS instead before decommissioning the old one.  

So now you've got to understand DNS, too, including how to properly configure your own domain, and how this interrelates with ActiveDirectory -- it's not as easy as just pointing to your ISP's DNS.

Actually it is. (assuming single server for simplicity) In an AD domain the DC handles DNS period. All clients point to, and only to the DC. External lookups are to be handled by forwarding either to the default internet root servers, or to the configured forwarders. The ISP's DNS servers can be configured as forwarders but personally I prefer OpenDNS. If the ISP's DNS servers appear anywhere else in the configuration problems will ensue.

I usually just let dcpromo handle the DNS installation on the fly (for Server 2000/2003/2008 - Server 2012 is a bit different..). Then verify the FSMO roles made it over safely and down the old box. Reboot the new server to make sure it can come online with out issue, and if the event logs are clean ... Spin up the old server one more time to demote it.


And this is the part that I was never able to get to work properly (this may have been complicated by the fact that I own my own domain name as well, I use that for my email address, so I needed to be able to get name resolution to hosting provider's mail server that has my domain name).

having the same public and internal domain name is a bit of a no-no. But in a pinch you can just add the A records for www, mail, etc. to the internal DNS server with the external IP addresses.



I actually thought NT4 domains were simpler. Back then, you had a PDC and some set of BDCs, and it was perfectly clear which was which. So to replace an old PDC, you'd just bring up a new BDC, get him acquainted with the old PDC, and then promote him.

The PDC (emulator) is still there an reasonably easy to find: netdom query fsmo
346  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Core Internet Institutions Abandon US Government on: October 15, 2013, 12:12:50 PM
Tech Dirt weighs in on the topic:

http://www.techdirt.com/a...ew-governance-model.shtml

Always worth reading Tech Dirt, so no point in posting a quote.

Then I will, because this quote should be posted on billboards from 'Sea to Shining Sea':
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And before anyone tries to blame this latest development on Snowden, let's be clear that the problem is not that this activity has been revealed, but that the NSA was doing it in the first place.
347  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Pirates Jump on “The Walking Dead” Despite Legal Options on: October 15, 2013, 07:00:54 AM
So why not just use the delivery system people seem to rather obviously prefer instead of trying to handle the traffic spicks and bandwidth hits themselves?
348  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 15, 2013, 06:46:40 AM
Domains are easier IMHO.

They're not hard to set up per se. Hit the option to use a domain during the server setup and it's done. Windows server sets up the domain controller (plus baseline security) and handles all the heavy lifting for you.


+10 cheesy I'm rather fond of saying that Active Directory has only two states of being, DNS is configured and working properly, and shit hit the fan. The defaults work just fine ... Okay, lack of a RDNS zone bugs me...but its absence is harmless...it just really bugs the crap out of me.
349  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 14, 2013, 06:27:11 PM
When you connect to a share in theory the 2 sets of permissions are combined (sort of a logical OR) and you get whichever rights are greatest

While both Share and NTFS permissions are cumulative independently, they don't overlap (e.g. they are mutually exclusive). If you create a share, and give the administrators group the share read permission only. Even if they are the owner and have full control NTFS permissions of a folder and it's contents ... When accessed through that share they will have read permissions only.

You need both to be explicitly or implicitly (via inheritance and/or group membership) assigned to you with matching (w/r) permissions to allow manipulation of the target files.
350  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Networking, help me understand. on: October 14, 2013, 06:16:41 PM
I'm guessing this is the difference between Users share and NTFS permissions ?
(ftfy)

The top one is the New version of (XP's) Simple File Sharing. So it's trying to combine file and share permissions into one thing. The bottom one is the Share Permissions only tab of the Advanced Sharing options.

I tend to avoid option 1 (the top one) like a plague out of reflex, but I spend most of my time doing business systems and therefore need the detailed granular access control afforded by the advanced options.
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