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3151  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 02, 2011, 10:32:46 PM
You forget a vital ingredient, old people or people who just don't want to have to deal with crap don't have networks cheesy

If your old people do, you haven't trained them right.

Really? I frequently run into this rather unique misconception. People in small offices that are hesitant to buy a network printer, because they "Don't have" a "network". Do the 4 machines in your office share an internet connection? Yes? Then you have a network.

Do the old folks with one computer and a DSL connection have a "Network"? Damn straight they do! It's just a really small one. But they still gotta make that first hop across the LAN side cable now don't they? smiley

So if Bonjour decides to Bork name resolution because it's just so Mac-tastic and it wants to (read insists on) drive ... Well they're screwed. Because now you get to chase down an intermittent outage issue caused by a renegade protocol.
3152  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: should I ragequit? on: May 02, 2011, 10:10:58 PM
Tehehe I love that song!
3153  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: should I ragequit? on: May 02, 2011, 06:47:32 PM
I'd like to think we can passionately disagree about something, without feeling the need to turn on each other, in order to demonstrate how deeply held our convictions are.

Right-on Man!  Thmbsup
3154  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: amount of RAM in a netbook on: May 02, 2011, 06:43:43 PM
so i think windows 7 starter is a good match for a netbook for a novice.

I think it's a good match for a netbook period. They're not for heavy multitasking, they're for the quick on-the-fly in and out kind of thing. Like a web enabled cell phone with a bigger screen.
3155  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: should I ragequit? on: May 02, 2011, 04:01:46 PM
Not to mention that the guy pretty much tried and convicted himself in the (global) court of public opinion when he dialed up the world at large with the video wherein he praised the "heroes" who commandeered the planes (at his behest).
3156  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces! on: May 02, 2011, 03:32:42 PM
Just because something can spiral, does not automatically dictate that it will/must spiral into the eternal abyss (or the dark side if you like... smiley). Because it is also "true", that only a fool has no fear.

I think that 'fear' in that case (and at least in the case of what I'm talking about) is irrational uncontrolled fear.  Fear as in a 'healthy respect for' is reasonable, and definitely helps in survival and decision making.  The other kind- not so much.

Can't argue that one. smiley

But speaking for the bulk of us infidels, I think the reaction most common in the US (and this thread) was/is of the 2nd (healthy respect) variate of fear...Which I really don't perceive as "hate". But then again my son was at the pentagon that day.
3157  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: should I ragequit? on: May 02, 2011, 03:23:15 PM
As having a conscious is a good thing I'm told.

I think therefore I am? (Trying to lighten the mood...?)

I was actually shooting for more of a Jiminy Cricket sort of thing - But yes, I thought it might help (damn spell check hosed me  Sad)
3158  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 02, 2011, 03:19:20 PM
I've never dealt with Oracle, but anything resembling an automated (generic) transfer tends to make me nervous.

I used to use DTS all the time, and it worked well in MS SQL Server. You had to get your settings right, but it worked ok. Test of course, but still good.

I used a program one time to migrate and MS SQL Server database to MySQL -- worked without a hitch.

This I will keep in mind.

------------------------------------------------

Scampering back onto the original topic.

Apple Sucks!

 cheesy
3159  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces! on: May 02, 2011, 03:12:42 PM
Through the words of a muppet comes the truth...

"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

Does it really matter in what stage you find yourself?  That's a spiraling mode of thinking.

A Star Wars quote? Seriously?

Just because something can spiral, does not automatically dictate that it will/must spiral into the eternal abyss (or the dark side if you like... smiley). Because it is also "true", that only a fool has no fear.
3160  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers. on: May 02, 2011, 03:00:13 PM
I sooo love my PS3. I guess I would even have bought it had it been from Apple Wink

That seems kind of stupid... If it were from Apple, you wouldn't be able to play games on it~! tongue cheesy

(Sorry - couldn't resist that one~!)

I guess it would be call the iStation anyway smiley

Or the iPlay ... That's a fun and up sounding name.

In multi-player mode it's the iPlay with friends.

In single player mode it's the iPlay with myself.

 ohmy
3161  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces! on: May 02, 2011, 01:48:40 PM
heheh, "they hate our freedoms"; i've not heard that one before.

It seems to me that in a lot of cases, it just boils down to "they hate..." Sad

Even sadder though, is that a lot of it boils down to "'we' hate..." Sad

But do "we" really?

If a child sees a spider, screams for help, and an adult comes in and "helps" by killing the spider. The child then responds by saying hooray, thanks for saving me from the spider.

Now did the child actually hate the spider? Or were they just afraid of it?

The two terms get used interchangably quite often. Most adults will tell you they hate spiders...When they really mean they're afraid of them.
3162  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 02, 2011, 01:37:50 PM
I understand you are married to MS-SQL

I am? Sounds like one of those bad night in Vegas movies ... When did I get married? I'm not adverse to MSSQL, but for something like this I'd generally go with MySQL (which may have been unclear earlier). Either way the object is to get (run) away (screaming) from Access (which the project is currently married to) unless using a dinky record set that would fit comfortably on a (Excel) spread sheet.

I've never dealt with Oracle, but anything resembling an automated (generic) transfer tends to make me nervous.
3163  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: should I ragequit? on: May 02, 2011, 11:54:37 AM
Many others have already put to far more eloquently than I tend to be. So...

Should I ragequit?

Actions taken in anger are seldom well thought out, Hence... I will simply vote no. As having a conscious is a good thing I'm told.
3164  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces! on: May 02, 2011, 11:42:45 AM
(BTW- I abhor the term collateral damage.  It's a euphemism used to cover up the fact that this damage takes its toll in lives.  If you're going to do the act, at least look it in the eye when you do so.)

Agreed! Enough with the Politically "Correct" attempts at watering down anything that might be perceived as difficult. Stand up and face what it really is in truth ... Or don't do it at all. We as a species would do well to get back to straighter talk and thicker hides. Then much of the foolishness would end.
3165  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Pirated Software and Viruses? Ahem... No. I don't want to help you... on: May 02, 2011, 07:50:59 AM
She only slept around when her husband was out of town.

If you can't be with the one you love honey love the one you're with.

(If nobody remembers that song...I'm going to look like an idIoT)
3166  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 02, 2011, 07:25:15 AM
If you are old, don't care to learn just want to use something and it work, apple is for you.

God, Grant me the serinity...

You must only meet one of the criteria, not all. Not saying apple is only for old people, but am saying old people should only use apple

EDIT: ESPECIALLY if you're an old person calling me for help fixing your internet

I was actually just trying to dissuade Renegade from saying what I was thinking, as we both tend to see red when the Apple, It just works thing comes up. Because it doesn't. Apple networking is dependent in its own abomination Bonjour, which I have seen break way too many networks with its shenanigan to be coincidence. It's a garbage protocol.

I'd rather try walking an old person through Linux troubleshooting, than do a hands-on network printer setup for a Mac. Because I know from the start that the first one will result in both of us laughing frequently, and the second one will (after much anguish) end badly.
3167  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 02, 2011, 07:05:50 AM
To quote Jack from LOST, "Are you insane?"

While debatable it's really not the central point...  

No no no. Not your sanity - the sanity of using Access... That must be very not fun.

Well, that was my second choice on how to take the comment. But I thought the first one was funnier, so I went with it... Wink ...But yes it's been about as much fun as being roasted alive.

It makes me wonder if there is any way to "trick" the system into thinking that it's using Access but actually have a different RDBMS there. Then it would be possible to swap it out.

Sure, it's (a web site) just a bunch of page scripts and an mdb file. The problem is it's a production system and there currently just isn't the time available to risk borking the whole thing if I happen to (miss a db trigger event, etc.) get something wrong.

Sure the SQL syntax is close enough that I could probably just recreate the db and update the connection string to target a MySQL db, and then import the data. But if anything went wrong ... I'd be married to the thing for a string of all nighters trying to stitch the data back together. Sure eventually it will have to be done ... But for here and now, it's (bandaid time) triage only.
3168  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: New Twist on Basic on: May 02, 2011, 06:48:43 AM
After just glancing at the OP sample code, I'm pretty sure I could do the same sample dialog in pure C with  less code ... *Shrug* ... So I'm lost on an advantage there.

With C, you can't use goto without being outlawed Wink

goto EEK!

hehehe ...Gotta give you that one!  cheesy
3169  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Pirated Software and Viruses? Ahem... No. I don't want to help you... on: May 02, 2011, 06:45:23 AM
It's one thing to use a crack for software that you have already licensed, but...
And another to use wholly pirated software, which isn't necessarily the end of the world...

but asking a programmer for help with pirated software? priceless smiley

(hehe) Yeah, that like flagging down a cop and asking where is the best place to by pot. Renegade should have given the guy the number for the local BSA, and told him to ask for "Tech Support".
3170  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces! on: May 02, 2011, 06:38:50 AM
That's assuming they got the right guy - a quick burial at sea seems a bit fishy to me (sorry for he pun).

Agreed, however hoisting a body on a petard for a parade through town is rather frowned on these days - And an autopsy was hardly necessary - So there wasn't much need for the carcas going forward...


Also +1 with f0dder, cutting the head off this snake, will only result in more snakes.
3171  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: corrupt office 2003 file on: May 01, 2011, 02:37:05 PM
email is not involved at all.  the files are stored on our server.

Oops! ...I Assumed  embarassed
3172  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 01:56:19 PM
To quote Jack from LOST, "Are you insane?"

While debatable it's really not the central point...  cheesy ...I'm just dealing with what I had (was given) to start with (Personally I much prefer the PHP/MySQL combo). It's a "Production System" with no latitude for downtime. So... A complete conversion was/is just not in the cards at this point. However I may try it later, time permitting. Hopefully before it takes its (Access + large record set = boom) inevitably complete shit.
3173  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 01:27:35 PM
No, but my todo list is. Our IT department consists of only one monkey...Me.

The folks that use the report have some of the oldest machines, so it was assumed ... and never mentioned, until I got a request for some new features for the site. Ha! ...That went well.

50k???
5 years of records and counting.

Access???
Totally not my idea...

New features???
Yes, management is like that.

WTF???

Exactly... Welcome to my world.
3174  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 12:59:17 PM
I got stuck the last few weeks working on one of our Intranet sites coded in ASP (e.g. VB), and it just makes me want to scream every time I have to deal with it.

ASP sucked. It's no wonder MS gave up on it almost a decade ago now~! smiley tongue

Actually, I left out the best part ... It's an ASP UI, with an Access db back-end. One of the reports that pulled from a table with 50,000 records in it, was parsing the results at the page level ... Which I assumed had much to do with its 3 minute page load time.

I got it down to about 4 seconds now (with a much (more precise) finer tuned query).

WTF? Why hasn't it been redone by now? Is it THAT big?

No, but my todo list is. Our IT department consists of only one monkey...Me.

The folks that use the report have some of the oldest machines, so it was assumed ... and never mentioned, until I got a request for some new features for the site. Ha! ...That went well.
3175  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
If you are old, don't care to learn just want to use something and it work, apple is for you.

God, Grant me the serinity...
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