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2951  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / So I got an HTC Arrive on: April 26, 2011, 04:40:29 PM
bloody hell it's hard to type on one of these things
2952  Other Software / Announce Your Software/Service/Product / Re: [Python][Windows] Debug/Gather printer information on: April 26, 2011, 03:03:09 PM
Yea at the moment this project only works for local printers (as you understand, networkprinters on remote sites also counts as local) smiley
I'm actually heading for usage tracking and report errors on the fly.

Cool. Now for the errors, are you looking for communication errors (getting the job there), machine errors (printer out of something /jammed), or both?
Originally my plan was to just follow the communication errors from the PC (client) to the printer, once there the printer is a whole nother story, but when you mention it i could probably get that up on my todo list, getting the printer errors as well.

For the most part, the printer errors aren't worth the trouble. There is no consistent (RFC/Industry Standard) location for the error data, and if the printer actually does throw a truly Critical Error ... It'll be lucky if it can record it in its own logs before locking up. Anything else can be pulled out of (an SNMP query for) the Display text in real time (supplies out/paper jam - [User stuff]) which is in a standard location.

Now if you can track which ring of hell the print job just fell through on the communication side... That would be Uber Handy.


These days (with direct IP printing so common/cheap) print servers seem to only get used for user usage tracking scenario. However most of the (driver/spool interrogation level) ones I've tested have great difficulty tracking duplexed pages, multiple copies, and the larger paper sizes (like 11x17) that can make a big difference when calculating someones actual usage.

Then there are the printers that locally store the by user usage tracking info... Which is great if you want to pole for it constantly to avoid missing something (not recommended) because they dump the logs when restarted.

Only thing I found that will guarantee-ably accurately catch everything sent to a printer is Capella Megatrack. Which is an accessory firmware add-on that sits on the printer and reports back to a SQL db. At the time I had investigated the options available, including a scratch write ... but decided the best thing for the company was to recommend the client go with Capella (which ain't cheap). The deployment has been running just fine for the last (almost) 5 years.

Please understand, I'm not trying to talk you out of the project. I really and truly hope you succeed ... I'm just sharing the fact that I couldn't quite pull it off.
I understand, no worries smiley i find it better to know what I'm getting myself into but i myself always live by the motto "you can do anything, don't let nobody tell you otherwise, nothing is impossible" and i firmly believe that there's no problem that can't be solved, the only question is who will come up with the answer smiley

Agreed. But I have seen features turn into administrative nightmares because of differences between where a given piece of information is stored between different makes and models. Interrogating the driver/spool probably is the safest bet, but permissions issues come into play then also.


I'm looking in to the direct IP (TCP) printing as we speak, mainly this idiotic function:
"Output is transmitted directly to the printer without staging or respooling, saving system resources and enhancing print routing performance."
Sure it's a performance saver perhaps, but for a sys admin not in charge of the "pre-spool" server (Streamserve) it's really hard to debug anything cause the document that you print is just that, a TCP connection and nothing else, there's no spooled documents and no indication of what's getting printed. Love that the feature excists but there has to be more info in this area smiley

I may be missing what you're after here. but to me Direct IP is way simpler to deal with. The spooler client side is just a cache that frees up the application quicker so the print job can crawl up the wire. Print servers really just allow for another place for the job to get stuck ... Especially when the spooler becomes badly fragmented because it was left in the default location on a high traffic print server.

I just love it when a client's IT department swears everything is clear...Only to watch the printer vomit paper for a half an hour just seconds after coming back on-line.


Yours is more of a scanner then a job-information tool o guess even if yours had a few information features such as printer toner levels etc. Have you developed yours entirely from scratch cause it looks like you were surprised that "web access" was in your feature list? tongue
What's it written in? C# or .NET?

Yes, Page Countster's primary function is to find and list all of the printers on a network and collect page count and tracking information for billing purposes. I'm not sure what you're referring to regarding the "surprised that "web access" was in your feature list" part. But if you can link me to the statement I'll have a better chance of answering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plLrAZrvq3I
1min 41sec into the video:
"i did wanna show you one thing tho that surprised me quite a bit, which was that i didn't even realize that my printer could be accessed and configured through the web" (think it's you in the video? or is that mauser?).

Ah! lol Yes, that was mouser in the video ... I do 99% of the printer configuration through the Embedded Web Server, and only physically touch the printer if forced to.

At any rate, yes it was a from scratch project, that occupied a great deal of my time for about 3 years. It is written in pure Win32 API C++ (no .NET/MFC/run-time requirement nonsense) using MSVS2005.
Cool, haven't been here long enough perhaps but i haven't seen many projects that doesn't involve PHP or "simple" programming, not yet at least, except yours.
Gotta hand it to you for making such a in-depth project with packet forging/managing etc smiley

Thank you. Most of the simple stuff are just by request programs done by members to help people with simple requests. But there are many extremely talented programmers here, most of which are far better at it than I. My nitch is Network Deployment & Server Administration, programming for me is a hobby. Or rather it was supposed to be a hobby, until the boss found out what I could do. I designed and scratch wrote many of our company's internal database systems. Page Countster was/is also a company project.
2953  Other Software / Announce Your Software/Service/Product / Re: [Python][Windows] Debug/Gather printer information on: April 26, 2011, 07:38:43 AM
Yea at the moment this project only works for local printers (as you understand, networkprinters on remote sites also counts as local) smiley
I'm actually heading for usage tracking and report errors on the fly.

Cool. Now for the errors, are you looking for communication errors (getting the job there), machine errors (printer out of something /jammed), or both?

These days (with direct IP printing so common/cheap) print servers seem to only get used for user usage tracking scenario. However most of the (driver/spool interrogation level) ones I've tested have great difficulty tracking duplexed pages, multiple copies, and the larger paper sizes (like 11x17) that can make a big difference when calculating someones actual usage.

Then there are the printers that locally store the by user usage tracking info... Which is great if you want to pole for it constantly to avoid missing something (not recommended) because they dump the logs when restarted.

Only thing I found that will guarantee-ably accurately catch everything sent to a printer is Capella Megatrack. Which is an accessory firmware add-on that sits on the printer and reports back to a SQL db. At the time I had investigated the options available, including a scratch write ... but decided the best thing for the company was to recommend the client go with Capella (which ain't cheap). The deployment has been running just fine for the last (almost) 5 years.

Please understand, I'm not trying to talk you out of the project. I really and truly hope you succeed ... I'm just sharing the fact that I couldn't quite pull it off.

This is mostly developed due to the lack of information given by windows when customers call in and say that their printouts never show up in the printer, this way i can track where, why and when smiley

Yeah, that can get "fun" at times. The GUI say the job is gone/there, but the wire activity doesn't quite actually agree, and the printer isn't responding at all. I hate when that happens.

Atm I've bumped into some problems regarding the network printers, seems like they don't spool documents as they should when they come from a second "printer" server running a software called "Streamserve" :/

I'm not familiar with that one, but I have seen some Novell print servers that would convert the print job on-the-fly from RAW/9100 (what you'd expect) to LPR/LPD 515 ... Which strangely was the root cause for many rather interesting failures. Like a 500 page job that kept reprinting the first 150 pages in a loop until the machine ran out of paper.

Yours is more of a scanner then a job-information tool o guess even if yours had a few information features such as printer toner levels etc. Have you developed yours entirely from scratch cause it looks like you were surprised that "web access" was in your feature list? tongue

What's it written in? C# or .NET?

Yes, Page Countster's primary function is to find and list all of the printers on a network and collect page count and tracking information for billing purposes. I'm not sure what you're referring to regarding the "surprised that "web access" was in your feature list" part. But if you can link me to the statement I'll have a better chance of answering.

At any rate, yes it was a from scratch project, that occupied a great deal of my time for about 3 years. It is written in pure Win32 API C++ (no .NET/MFC/run-time requirement nonsense) using MSVS2005.
2954  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Techno-Addicts on: April 26, 2011, 06:25:16 AM
Confused about this cricket rule:
'Bat out of hell'

Is that a zone in the playing field or what?  tongue


I thought it was a 30+ year old meatloaf entree.

That would have been my guess ... Crickets just chirp in the evening in my world.
2955  DonationCoder.com Software / ProcessTamer / Re: 为什么不更新了 on: April 25, 2011, 06:48:53 PM
Hell, I wish I could get more spam that said: "Hay man, nice job, keep up the good work!".

But oh no, I just get the spam that says I need:
A Quality Replica Rolex, a Russian Bride, and a larger longer lasting weenie.

 Sad
2956  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Tech UN-Support on: April 25, 2011, 01:23:34 PM
Once again a chapter of the You Gotta be Friggin Kidding Me files unfolds...

I just got off the phone with a client I have know for several years. It is a nice little old lady that while not technically adept, is other wise quite sharp. She wanted me to replace the NIC in her computer (or sell her a new computer) because the group of "Tech Support" people at her ISP which will remain nameless felt it had gone bad due to the fact that the DSL routers Activity Light would not stop flashing...

Hm... A "dead" NIC with Line activity ... Must be Zombie traffic perhaps?

There other bit of completely misinterpreted info was an error message that popped up every time IE (or another web request) was opened. The error? ...No Dial Tone Detected...

Now I realize that a large trained IT staff can be a bit expensive. But they really should make sure the people they hire can at least read well enough to follow the damn flow chart. For the rest...McDonald's is now hiring!
2957  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Easiest laptop (brand) to take apart ? on: April 25, 2011, 11:31:57 AM
Mac laptops are less reliable than PCs
Research reveales 17% of Apple laptop fail within three years

Those are both the same link  huh
2958  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Techno-Addicts on: April 25, 2011, 06:41:01 AM
assumption made that western values and culture are somehow innately superior to those from the East

Funny really, as I tend to assume the exact opposite ... But I tend to be a nonconformist also. smiley

I haven't read the article, but I'd have to assume it should end up with anything to excess is bad.
2959  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Apple - not quite grasping the concept of privacy. on: April 24, 2011, 09:57:15 AM
That "article" sounds more like a sympathizer's attempt at making a point.

Or to put it simply: If a forensics lab, thinks it's great idea ... You should be afraid, very (very) afraid.

Dig?
2960  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Please kill me now - just bought an iPad off of eBay on: April 24, 2011, 09:39:40 AM
Is this how you feel after having the iPad placed in front of you?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FWUjJF1ai0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FWUjJF1ai0</a>

Well, they say animals can sense evil...

Indeed they can - and quite accurately too. I react much the same way when approached with iWare.
2961  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: T-Clock 2010 (download) on: April 24, 2011, 09:34:36 AM
The .dll should be in the same folder as the clock. The pair of them can be run from anywhere you like. The only catch is to use the 32-bit version on 32-bit machines, and the 64-bit version on 64-bit machines.

Runs on anything from Windows 2000 -to- Windows 7.
2962  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Happy Birthday Renegade! on: April 22, 2011, 10:19:03 PM
Ah! So that's why he's missing ... Happy Birthday Man!
2963  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What's your experience with 3rd party color inkjet ink replacement? on: April 22, 2011, 10:16:57 PM
One of my printers is a Canon all-in-one and I really like it.
I stuck to Canon ink for a few years and then decided to try cheap stuff.
Everything went well and I congratulated myself for being astute… until cheap-ink change #4 clogged the print head.

The thing to remember about print heads, is that they are classified as consumables. So if you ran that printer "For a few years", on the same print head - You're quite lucky - It's demise had nothing to do with the cheap inks, and everything to do with the fact that print heads eventually do fail ... Some even (time out) do it according to a schedule.
2964  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: T-Clock 2010 (download) on: April 22, 2011, 07:48:37 PM
Is it possible to adjust the text-based week days? I'd like to keep my Windows settings as my own region, but have the week days displayed in english. But even if I change everything to english, I'd like the week days to only display as two letters instead of three. Or even better, only one letter if the first letter is unique.
Perhaps allow custom names for all week days?

Actually AMMA already caught me on the broken alternate feature (top of page 12). Which is the part I'm hung up on at the moment...That and time - I haven't really had time to work on it these days.

Also, you didn't reply to my earlier bug report. I can try to make a video of it since I may not have explained it very good.

Sorry, actually you explanation was fine, but time got away from me. Which is kind of an ironic excuse for a clock project...But true none the less.

Current todo list order is:
Language Bugg - Which is kicking my ass
Add computername & uptime format specifiers - Should be quick and simple
Your sizing bugg - Which has great potential to get "sticky" if it is where I think it is.

Unfortunately I can't currently give a time-line because I've gotten steamrolled by the office.
2965  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Flash Game of the Week: Zombie Cats on: April 22, 2011, 07:30:59 PM
Okay, for the mechanically inclined...This was fun.
http://www.fastgames.com/wheelit.html
2966  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Flash Game of the Week: Zombie Cats on: April 22, 2011, 06:41:14 PM
515 clicks to the end, not sure if that's good or bad.
2967  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What's your experience with 3rd party color inkjet ink replacement? on: April 22, 2011, 06:06:11 PM
A guy I knew who wrote Windows printer drivers told me if I wanted photo quality on the cheap, to get Epson Stylus.

True, our (recently retired) production manager loves his, and has had it for several years. The Out-Of-Box drivers sucked (print quality wise), but he downloaded an updated one from Epson...and the prints then looked just as good as a photo.
2968  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Hoppy Easter~! on: April 22, 2011, 05:57:56 PM
But according to their bible, there was nothing happy about the events of the weekend.

(Translation: Glad it wasn't me) Everybody else had a great weekend, the weather was nice...
2969  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What's your experience with 3rd party color inkjet ink replacement? on: April 22, 2011, 05:26:17 PM
i must say the color lasers are starting to look nice these days.  not for photos but for other stuff.

HP LaserJet Pro CP1025nw Color Printer $179.99

OEM Cartridges are $55.99 and good for 1,000 pages, which works out to about 6 cents for a color page (assuming 5% coverage). Full blead/Edge-2-Edge photo prints will be closer to 20% coverage but it's still cheaper than ink for the rough draft stuff...(Paper type makes a big difference)...Actually the quality is getting better these days.

I doubt we can beat the online price for that model, but I'll check with the sales manager if you like.
2970  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What's your experience with 3rd party color inkjet ink replacement? on: April 22, 2011, 02:59:30 PM
Independent inks and a user replaceable print head on that ain't such a bad deal. Many of the ink printers require a service center to (reset the code...) replace the print head - So they get junked most often.

If you really print that infrequently, have you ever considered a small laser printer? Cost per page is much cheaper, and toner doesn't dry out Ya know...

I bought an HP C4680 (Print/Copy/Scan) for (about $85) the wife - 'cause she had to have one - And have only had to buy ink for it once in a year and a half. It's a tri-color cartridge ($30), but the print head is built in. So If I went generic and it clogged the print head it don't matter.

Either way, if you go generic the only thing on the printer that can get "damaged" is the print head (Yours is $30 - $50) ... So it's not really going to scrap/brick/destroy the device to experiment a bit. Wink
2971  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Hoppy Easter~! on: April 22, 2011, 11:31:30 AM
Having somewhat of a penchant for sacrilege, I had to PM the alternate ending (because it is offensive) for that joke to Renegade.

Zoiks! Just realized this was post 1,800
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2972  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anyone here using a standing desk? on: April 21, 2011, 03:57:20 PM
I told him if I stuck two fingers up my ass I could probably whistle, but I wasn't about to try that either...
Don't diss prostate massaging 'til you've tried it! tongue

LOL Now that's the funniest damn thing I've heard in long time!
2973  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Apple - not quite grasping the concept of privacy. on: April 21, 2011, 03:46:07 PM
Oh I think Apple has grasped the issue of privacy just fine.

And now that they've grasped it, they're trying to drag it into the bushes and murder it. Grin

heheheh, good point.

Yepper, I'll sign that!
2974  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Apple - not quite grasping the concept of privacy. on: April 21, 2011, 11:59:55 AM
Just thought it would be appropriate to mention this here since so many of you are obviously using iPhones.

Alright now, don't be starting any rumors ... iLife was banned from my universe long ago.
2975  DonationCoder.com Software / Post New Requests Here / Re: IDEA : Voice Changing Application {VCA} on: April 21, 2011, 11:54:02 AM
Are you holding someone for ransom?

hehehe  Thmbsup  Good one!

OTOH Vocalster does sound like it might be fun to play with.
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