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2951  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 12, 2011, 05:42:52 PM
Can't see why a UK Phone would have any info for Canadian towers (or any other country for that matter). Surely it just looks at what is there? When I visited Niagara it jumped on to Bell and my carrier doesn't even have an arrangement with Bell!

Me either, but before the update the PM's phone completely ignored the tower's existence, after the update it was wide open running. *Shrug* So it just one of those things I mentally file away to try and verify later.
2952  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: PDF to Word converter comparison on: May 12, 2011, 09:49:59 AM
How well do these work on PDFs that have been security locked to prevent mics actions like coping text to the clipboard.
2953  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: T-Clock 2010 (download) on: May 12, 2011, 09:45:05 AM
Also, the lose focus does work. It's that the calendar sometimes doesn't have the focus to begin with.

True, and this rather annoying bugg has been fixed in the latest (albeit unreleased) development build. Unfortunately I'm currently up to my ass in alligators, and haven't had time to work on the project ... So it isn't ready for release.
2954  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 12, 2011, 07:32:14 AM
Interesting question - when I was in Canada recently I received texts from a friend in Toronto but couldn't return them. We had identical Blackberry 9700 Bold phones - SMS just wouldn't work on mine they got bounced back. The only difference - mine was on a UK carrier (via Rogers) and he was on Rogers as a customer. You would have thought that since we were both connecting via Rogers it wouldn't be a problem but obviously my text winging back and forth across the big pond got tired and just cam home to complain!

The other odd thing was that standing side by side at the top of the CN Tower his phone was on 3G but mine could only get EDGE. I called Rogers and my UK teco - both said I should get 3G and neither could work out why I couldn't. I get 3G in the UK in appropriate locations.

Hm... this reminds me of something the production manager ran into awhile back.

He lived right down the street from a cell tower...but got lousy reception at his house. He switched carriers several times most of which claimed to have access to said tower, but...) to no avail. On the last switch he told the sales drone flat out; if this think ain't got solid signal at my house, I'll come back here and throw it at you. It didn't. However...

Being inspired by the eminent risk of personal injury ... The sales drone decided to call the branch of tech support that didn't have or need flow charts. They did an update on the phone that changed how the phone logged/listed/analyzed/interacted with the towers (I forget the details). It seems apparently, as these clowns buy and sell each-other every 5 minutes...That the phones don't (or can't) actually keep up with what is or is not their network. So they occasionally need to be given an updated list of what's who's where and why. *Shrug* I always assumed that they polled actively for that kind of stuff. But apparently the list of stuff they have to actively poll for changes.

Anyhow after the update, the PM's phone accepted the tower's existence and he hasn't had a dropped call there since. So if you were traveling at the time, maybe your phone just didn't have the updated info for that tower.
2955  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Steal like an artist, zombie lies, and why Microsoft is irrelevant on: May 12, 2011, 06:43:07 AM
Can I get an Amen?

Amen Brotha, Testify..!

 cheesy
2956  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Steal like an artist, zombie lies, and why Microsoft is irrelevant on: May 12, 2011, 06:41:12 AM
Seems like we are headed into an age where companies are going to be trying to find increasingly convoluted and complicated schemes to extract money from us without actually charging us directly for the products we use.  And I'm not looking forward to it.

+1 The industry seem to have stopped being about technology, and is now all about monetizing IP ... Innovation is irrelevant - A rather key point the article missed.
2957  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 11, 2011, 07:39:15 PM
Précis! EC05. It looks like she's on an Epic too. Is it called Elite where you are or something?

- Oshyan

Oops, sorry (I'm an idiot) It is a Epic.
2958  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 11, 2011, 05:37:51 PM
Let's see how closely we match:
Phone: Samsung Elite
Model #:SPH-D700
Carrier: Sprint
Firmware: v2.2.1
Baseband Ver: S:D700.0.55.EC05
Kernel: v2.6.32.9
Build Num: FROYO.EC05
Hardware Ver: D700.0.5
2959  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 11, 2011, 05:12:12 PM
Well, what I meant was that while android may be handling phone number issues incorrectly, that may be unnoticed by users on other networks if the network has features to figure out if the text is intended to be within the user's home area code. WinMo is obviously handling this correctly, which also shows no issues regardless of carrier. So yes android is doing something wrong, but Sprint may also be.

- Oshyan

Ah! A shared fault ... Nice.

Hm... So I guess the question is; does SMS actually require a 10 digit number at the protocol level? Or rather do text messages follow the exact same PSTN route, or do they have a more central (clearing house) point to go through that would/does require the area code?

And yours got worse when you updated the OS, yes? ...I'll have to see what version the wife's is running.
2960  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Clicking Cool Ads... NOT! (NSFW) on: May 11, 2011, 05:02:36 PM
Years ago I had an Email of SomeClown@F***Wad.com but I lost it when the service closed up shop. It came in handy at times.
2961  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Farewell Skype ... on: May 11, 2011, 03:10:47 PM
Hey Mr. Jobs! How's thinking different working out for ya now that Microsoft's given up on that in order to think BIGGrin

HaHaHa! Hehehe Thmbsup Thmbsup Thmbsup
2962  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 11, 2011, 03:08:06 PM
I have the same problem sometimes on my Samsung Epic (oo, a common thread!) and even more so now that I've upgraded to 2.2. While the issues with using the full 10 digit number do seem to be with Android (and I'm not sure how to fix them), the inability to recognize a user account's local area code and just use/assume it's from there when not specified seems more like a carrier issue and might explain why more people don't experience this. What carrier are you with? I'm on Sprint...

- Oshyan

(Sprint yes) Me too. And I'd of loved to jump on the carrier issue band wagon. But the wife and I got our phones at the same time. And both of which are through the same newly created company account. My Windows phone works flawlessly ... The Droid, not so much. If it was a carrier issue both should be failing. Non of the rest of the staff has complained *Shrug* So I gues they're working.
2963  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 11, 2011, 07:41:12 AM
FWIW, I've had no problems texting on my Droid X.

Neither has the sales manager with any of the half dozen Droids he's had, or the VP with the same (exact) model & carrier. *Shrug* Apparently it's just my luck to get the only defectoid in the bunch for the wife's very first smart phone ... Right before she goes out of town to visit our granddaughter (e.g. If this friggin thing doesn't fly straight I'll never hear the end of it).


I'd so hoped it was just a simple setting ... But now, I'm convinced...It's a Demonic Possession!  ohmy

 cheesy
2964  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 11, 2011, 07:01:52 AM
Oh -- I didn't mean that it happens normally on Android -- I was speaking about any technology or service or product or anything in general... i.e. Less than promised...

Understood ... I wasn't Uber rational last night, so I was having to try really hard to filter my thoughts to avoid ranting like a rabid ape... smiley

Over promising is a common sales tactic that has driven my hatred for sales people all my life. I'm used to it. But, to my way of thinking, protocols used after connection be damned ... This phone is quite simply failing to dial a phone number correctly. Solely do to it mangling the phone number. That's not really a new technology, as phones have been around since the 1800s. After the number is dialed it can screw up anything it wants to...I'll understand...That part is new. But it damn well better dial the :)ing number as it's told, when it's told ... Or I start fantasizing about claw hammers and stuff... smiley

Perhaps I'm still not quite entirely calm just yet.  undecided

I never had that problem on my HTC G1.

But I've always been in the habit of storing contact's phone numbers as 11 digit (1-234-567-8901). Even so, there have been a few times that numbers were stored in my phone in 10 or 7 digit format and they always worked fine.

This is why I was kind of hoping it was a setting somewhere...the behavior is really just too weird (to me). I tried every number format I could think of, especially the ones that Google seemed to be using and/or the one the phone uses when it creates a new contact from the phone logs. No Dice... Texting = Phantom Busted Number Fail. *Shrug*
2965  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 10, 2011, 10:59:55 PM
So... What you're telling me is this kind of horse shit is normal?!? Christ no wonder I avoided these things for so long.

I'd think from all the hype that the Google/Android phones would be just dandy at all this Social Networking crap. Simple Message Service my ass!

I'd hoped it was a setting that was off but could be fixed. But I guess I'll have to get her switched to a Windows phone because her office is insisting on her being able to text the doctor.

Hell my Windows phone came with Office Mobile and connects to our Exchange server just fine. The VP got a Droid (same as the wife's) and it locks up daily. I thought they were supposed to be great phones...?
2966  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Farewell Skype ... on: May 10, 2011, 10:23:49 PM
A Skype SDK would be fun...
2967  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Droid Texting - Fail! on: May 10, 2011, 10:21:39 PM
Okay, so I'm on record as detesting most of the things that smart phones are for...But I ended up with one anyway. I've no good explanation for why, it just happened.

I got one on the new HTC Arrive Windows Phones, and despite all attempts at hating it...I just can't. It has a straight forward intuitive interface that makes things easy to do, even when I'm intent on being thick.

The wife on the other hand, got a Droid, specifically a Samsung Elite ... I considered setting it on fire earlier this evening, but wasn't entirely sure it would burn... smiley I actually had to wait several hours before making this post to calm down to avoid breaking the record for most profanity ever used on a single page on the internet.


Anyhow... It all started with a Text Message, or rather an attempt at sending a text message. Texting, it seems, requires a 10 digit number. Okay fine. The droid however flatly refuses to to save and reuse said prerequisite 10 digit number (which is the one and only number in the contact list) for reasons which completely escape me. Here's a couple of test scenarios I went through, in the process of going ballistic.

Sent wife text from Windows phone (works fine)
Try responding to text from wife's Droid (it says no 10 digit number/bite me/Fail!)

Edit contact on phone, and then log into Gmail to make sure that all traces of number format 123-4567 are gone.
Delete text message history for contact me, because otherwise I'm not allowed to change the target number.
Once again confirm that number for contact Me is on the required 666-123-456 format.
Purge all history so there is no other alternative other that to read the number given in the contact info...

Open messaging on the droid, and pick me from the list.
Top of message windows says: My Name <123-4567>, ... WTF?!?
But it is, at this point, editable, Sort of. Correcting the number is (best I can tell) impossible. Best I can do is back it out entirely, and then it will give a drop down where I can (Believe it Or Not) select the correct number. And! successfully send a text.
Sent a few messages back and forth. All is fine... Kinda...

I close the message window.
I go to contacts, pick me, and pick send message.
Fail! Broken phantom number <123-4567> hath returned.
Not to mention I can't change/correct it any longer. I have to start over at step 1 with deleting the complete message history...To get the blasted thing to ASK me for the Freaking ~CorrecT~ number which it has in the contact list but completely refuses to use. Because apparently it's far more fun for the phone to bust my balls over a number that IT Decided to Truncate!

Factoid: There were 35 expletives in the last two sentences when I said them just now in my head.

<I'm going to step out for a cigarette...>
 cheesy
<Much better now...>

Additional Observations:
Texting to any long distance (/out of local area code) number, works fine. Contact info is uses as it is stored.
Texting to any local number, even if all 10 digits (666-123-4567 -or- 66612345767) are stored. Fails.
Pulling the battery to force a reboot does not affect the aforementioned ill behavior.


Why this is happening, I've not a clue. The Windows phone, also on the same carrier...performs flawlessly. I can only hope that someone recognizes this behavior, and knows of a fix for it...That they will share...Before the phone meets a tragic end.

Thank you.
2968  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Farewell Skype ... on: May 10, 2011, 09:18:34 PM
At least they're not sold to apple, you can guess the next UI of skype if it were to be from apple folks (clean video window with two buttons- call/end), skype interface at high doped apple minimalism).

Two Buttons! Perish the thought, for Mac you only get One Button (follows the mouse theme). Hold down the magic button, wait for your desired task to appear (from a list of 1,000 items - Much like the Mac Wheel) and then release the button. What could be simpler?
2969  Other Software / DC Gamer Club / Re: looking for some suggestions on: May 10, 2011, 09:09:56 PM
Some variant of mah jong?

Ooo...There's a good one that comes with Windows 7. I've lost an hour or two to it once or twice.
2970  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: WHS2011? Sorry - no evaluation copies. Try our nifty simulator instead! on: May 10, 2011, 03:45:42 PM
Strange, be interesting to see which codec all the fuss is about - I'll guess it's related to DRM somehow.

I've got the MS Subscription, but no hardware handy at the moment to run it on. *Shrug* ...Wonder if I can virtualize it. undecided
2971  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Microsoft buying skype for US $8.5 Billion on: May 10, 2011, 11:59:50 AM
I believe Microsofts acquisition is more about integration and development of voip technologies into Windows, The Office Communications platform (which is fantastic, btw), and movement to expand VOIP supporting technologies.

Well that (Implying a cleaner business UI) Would be delightful!
2972  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Farewell Skype ... on: May 10, 2011, 11:55:35 AM
Presumably that will be the end of Skype as we know it and it will all be bundled into Windows Live Messenger with all the attendant crap that comes with it!

I'm not so sure that's guaranteed...And out of the three involved in the bidding (Google, FaceBook, MS), I do believe MS is the lesser evil.

FaceBook/Skype - Oh Goody I can Vcon with the Sheep on my farmville - Please let me die!
Google/Skype - Skype goes back into beta for the next decade as service slowly begins to totally suck.
2973  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows 7 Power Users Guide.pdf on: May 10, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
I'm guessing if you open it expecting to read a book, the layout could be a bit busy/jarring/horrifying. But for beginners (I'm thinking Dr. Seuss here), keeping the text into small un-intimidating blocks does kind of make sense.

It's certainly a good list of all the various features available in Windows 7 - Which can be a tad hard to keep track of at times.
2974  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Microsoft buying skype for US $8.5 Billion on: May 10, 2011, 11:29:11 AM
Hm... I really can't decide how to feel about that. But I do wonder if they're going to go with a Live style Huggy-Feely interface, or do a clean straightforward business type interface.

Skype's interface has gotten progressively goofier with the last several updates, so I'd love to see a more back to basics strictly business UI.
2975  Other Software / Announce Your Software/Service/Product / Re: [Freeware] TimeClue - a simple time reminder that fades the desktop on: May 09, 2011, 10:56:28 PM
One thing that I find works very well is to have your monitor slightly angled -- just a few degrees (say 10 or so). It forces your eyes to change focus.

You sure about that? It's been awhile since I worked in optical so I can't put number to it of the top of my head. But a 10deg tip of a typical monitor isn't going to impact the focal distance enough to matter. Nor will sitting forward and/or backward in your chair (a considerably longer distance). The problem is the intense fixed gaze that is being maintained for hours at a time. That's what needs to be broken by letting you eyes unfocus and relax for a bit now and then.
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