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101  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Spam complications on: January 10, 2015, 11:42:08 PM
I've never had problems regarding spam, so I'm not sure if I've just been extraordinarily lucky, or their spam mechanisms are that good.

Hell, that's easy enough to check ... Just send me you email address and I'll forward our corporate catch-all box to you.. cheesy
102  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Looking for Windows Email Server Options on: January 10, 2015, 11:35:04 PM
Stoic Joker,
Not meaning to pry, and if the answer isn't private information, if you were to go to Exchange with your current email loads, how much storage would you plan to have available?

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...that distinction will have a huge effect on the log size. This is one of a multitude of reasons why Exchange tends to require a lot of system resources.

Honestly, the install footprint for the Exchange software would probably take up more space on the hard drive then my requirements for a mail store would. But as Shades eluded to above Exchange is a memory hungry beast that is just simply overkill for what I'm doing here. And the constant transaction log creation and processing is more wear on the drives that I just don't want to have to allow for.

Sure, I could setup the thing up and run it in my sleep ... But it's simply not cost effective for me to do so.


How are you finding hMailServer so far?

I ran it for years, and was quite happy with it.

I am indeed quite impressed with it. It has done everything I have asked of it and more ... And it has done so without - at any point - pissing me off, or requiring me to delve into the bowels of its documentation (those two points are associated..).

103  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: January 10, 2015, 11:10:58 AM
^ Might want to check those projectiles... looks like some men might be giving their all to make them.  Grin

...That's the Bee version of how to prevent random violence - Since you only get one shot...
104  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Donating to EFF on: January 10, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Not sure if they show on the stamps... or do the standard postage rates show?

If it was the price that was printed on the envelope (presumably by a postage meter) then I'd be inclined to assume it was the price paid (based on below quote).

How do you know they didn't get those stamps donated to them so they could do this for people?

The stamp is not an actual stamp, but an imprint stating the price as well.
105  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Looking for Windows Email Server Options on: January 10, 2015, 10:58:50 AM
but I'm wondering hypothetically if Exchange is feasible for you if you ignore the modest (for a few years old setup) cost and curtail or batch erase the logs on a small home setup like this.

The Exchange Transaction Logs are not 'Just logs" in the traditional sense. They have to be committed on a regular basis (like nightly) to avoid data loss. Also the thing to remember about mail servers is that the amount of mail that you expect to get has nothing to do with the amount of mail you will actually get ... smiley ...And that distinction will have a huge effect on the log size. This is one of a multitude of reasons why Exchange tends to require a lot of system resources.
106  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Donating to EFF on: January 10, 2015, 09:36:26 AM
How do you know they didn't get those stamps donated to them so they could do this for people?

The stamp is not an actual stamp, but an imprint stating the price as well.

Yes, but how do you know those costs are not being covered by a Third Party?

Common things occur commonly, uncommon things do not. When you hear hoofbeats, don't think of zebras.


Now that has got to be one of my absolute favorite posts. Thmbsup

I have absolutely no idea what it means. But I love it! Grin

It was indeed a truly brilliant response - that sounds oddly familiar. So either I've heard it before...or it just made perfect sense to me initially. Which - since no one else seems to have understood it - could be a very bad sign for both myself and eleman.. undecided
107  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Spam complications on: January 10, 2015, 09:28:55 AM
Their subsequent answers made me understand that they only knew one thing: how to advise their customers to set the SpamAssassin score to a lower number

I'm also into self hosting, but this part does sound familiar. Is that a reference to a control UI with 2 sliders on 1 slider control, that allow you to set (working from memory here...) a tag as might be spam and a just delete because it is spam scoring level?

I ran into something like this while working on a client's 3rd party hosted Exchange (cloud) server. The tagged spam goes into the user's junk mail folder (assuming Outlook), and the guaranteed (by slider position) spam is automatically just deleted. With something like this it's usually best to err on the side of caution until critical senders can be white listed, and then slowly tighten the settings until you hit 85%-90% efficiency.

Note: Even with self hosted systems that offer full access and granular control, spam filter settings should never try to hit over 95% efficiency. As the margin for error should always err on the side of caution to avoid disruptions of critical mail flow, and running the risk of driving your mail server admin crazy with 'where did message X go' reports.
108  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Authorities suspect a shark tried to eat Vietnam's Internet on: January 10, 2015, 08:57:55 AM
So...who owns the shark?

The FBI says it's North Korea.

Yes, and - being under alien (mind) control - they used alien technology to HacK the shark and make it attack the cable.

 cheesy
109  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Looking for Windows Email Server Options on: January 10, 2015, 08:54:33 AM
Stoic Joker, you seem happy with the solution you chose, but I'm thinking back on how you gushed about Exchange a bit at the top of this topic.

Oh dear ... I hadn't realized I was "Gushing" - That's not very Stoic of me - I'll have to be sure to curtail that in the future to keep my reputation intact.. cheesy Wink

But seriously, the solution discussed here was/is for my home lab network and replaced an aging/EoL (Virtual Server 2007) Windows Server 2003 POP/SMTP server that I'd been running for a decade. It only controls my personal domain with a small number of mailboxes. So given what else I do I didn't want to spare the resources doing a full blown Exchange implementation because it would cut too far into what I have available for experimentation.

Note: I'm the Network/Systems Administrator for one of the largest IT companies in the area, and we have an MSDN subscription. So experimentation can occasionally require quite a few resources when I use my home lab as a 'the other end' of a test setup.

Point being I didn't replace Exchange with hMailServer, we still run Exchange at the office. I used it to replace my - self hosted - personal domain mail server. Both are stellar solutions for their appointed tasks (Crap - I think I might be gushing again..).


I thought I'd throw out that I use Exchange on Windows Small Business Server (SBS) 2008 run virtually on my Windows 8.1 home PC.  I don't use the email function, just the calendar, but I know it can be done.

That must be one hell of a calendar! cheesy I do believe it is safe to say that Virtualization is by far my favorite technology to play with.


At the time, I used Virtual Box by Oracle, as SBS2008 wasn't listed as Hyper-V compatible.  I learned by trial and error that it actually works fine with Hyper-V (better in fact).

I don't think there is any MS OS that can't be run on Hyper-V - I've got a copy of DOS v6.22 virtualized on my lab domain now. It really is amazing how few resources a server OS requires when it isn't having to futz with the hardware.


I apologize if I've gone off-topic, or made you second guess your solution.  Maybe I'll solicit a critique on the advantages of the other solutions written here.  I'm really a novice as I haven't used the email of my Exchange at all.

Looks on topic to me.. If you try using Exchange for you Email, just remember their are a list of caveats a mile long with self hosting because of spammers, and viruses making everyone paranoid as hell about anything coming from a residential IP address.

I'm not saying not to do it ... I'm just cautioning not to go live with a critical system (like your primary Email address's domain) until you're sure your ISP allows it, your - server side - spam filter will hold, and you have enough space for what Exchange is about to do -(transaction log size will skyrocket)- to your hard drives. And etcetera...


Can Exchange go right on your Windows Server 2012?

Yes, Exchange 2007 and above will run in Server 2012.

I know Server 2011 required the Standard addition for Exchange, unless that's another Microsoft ommission.

For a single server implementation common sense requires the Standard edition of Exchange, as the cost of Enterprise licensing is pointless outside of a huge multi server corporate environment.

Does your Server 2012 even come with Hyper-V?

IIRC everything does these days ...(hardware permitting)... That's the primary reason I upgraded to Windows 8.1 at the office.
110  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: ALERT! FreewareBB shutting down. And with a warning from Marko? on: January 09, 2015, 02:32:50 PM
If the domain has not been re-pointed, then though he doesn't have control of the domain, he does still have control of what the domain is pointed to.  He didn't sell them his servers, he sold a domain name.

Huh? huh

I think he means if the new owner hasn't updated the DNS records then having access to the old(/current) hosting account -(or just Admin level access to the relevant CMS)- would give one free reign to play.
111  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Outlook 2013 Way to edit embedded graphics on: January 08, 2015, 11:53:39 AM
Further reading shows a lot of ways to do a lot of things but I cannot find one that will simply enable the button that is already there.

Apparently neither could Microsoft..

That really is very odd behavior, but I did notice two rather interesting things while playing with this:
1. The same disabled 'Edit Picture' item appears in MS Word 2013 as well, but you can make some changes to the picture using the Picture Format ribbon tab.
2. While the picture format ribbon tab is nowhere to be seen in the Outlook default inline style reply. It does appear if you pop out the Email into its own window.

112  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins? on: January 07, 2015, 04:45:16 PM
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On Tuesday, the currency traded even lower at 285.67 per US dollar.

Um... more like $254 from what I was watching. I really don't know how much longer I can stay in at these rates ... As 'Sunny Optimism' isn't really my 'Strong Suite'.. cheesy
113  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Can anyone help break "router block"? on: January 05, 2015, 11:50:44 AM
As a rule I tend to stay as far away from all things "Parental Control" as possible. They always seem to end up being a performance robing maintenance nightmare ... But then again I also primarily do business networks. I am however a huge fan of OpenDNS.

As far as Netgear's stuff getting bad reviews, I've never seen any consumer grade 802.11n class device get consistently good reviews from any of the manufacturers anywhere, ever. Netgear's tech support I only needed to use once with a new device on a really bizarre issue, as their available online documentation is really quite good.

I've dealt with several Netgear routers (like the FVS318) in SMB applications that have survived for years without incident. Hell our office wireless has been running off a Netgear WNR2000 v2.0 for so long I forgot where the damn thing is..

So yeah...I guess I kinda like'em
114  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: patchpae on: January 03, 2015, 11:08:56 PM
Forcing PAE into an OS isn't going to help with software that isn't designed to use it.

This just strikes me as a bit silly...and patching core OS files is really quite dangerous.
115  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: January 02, 2015, 12:28:31 PM
Clues In Sony Hack Point To Insiders  The Security Ledger

Way more believable than the official version.

I think it's a combination, truth be told.

Meh, disgruntled ex employee spun into publicity stunt makes way more sense than North Korea giving a shit about some silly assed movie..

...Just saying man ... Walks like a duck... Wink

North Korea has already said they cared about the movie... and considered it an act of war.

Yeah, the usual diplomatic (street punk on the corner style) BS posturing for the 6 O'clock news team. But do they really care? I seriously doubt it.


Any rational person would agree with you.  But the leadership of NK isn't exactly rational right now.

Think about that one for a second man - crazy-as-shit only really works as a strategy if it's an act.
116  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Want to be in my story? See inside. on: January 01, 2015, 10:18:02 PM
I'm game.

But I detest trying to describe/define myself, so you'll have to wing it. cheesy
stoic...any chance you are a female (sorry! i don't know!).  I need more female characters, so they get priority.

Nope, I do have long hair...but I'm a guy.
117  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: December 31, 2014, 11:31:24 PM
Clues In Sony Hack Point To Insiders  The Security Ledger

Way more believable than the official version.

I think it's a combination, truth be told.

Meh, disgruntled ex employee spun into publicity stunt makes way more sense than North Korea giving a shit about some silly assed movie..

...Just saying man ... Walks like a duck... Wink
118  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Happy New Year! =D on: December 31, 2014, 11:26:05 PM
Happy new year!
119  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: December 31, 2014, 07:45:38 AM
Clues In Sony Hack Point To Insiders  The Security Ledger

Way more believable than the official version.
120  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: December 30, 2014, 10:36:06 PM
There are 137 more pictures at the link. Anyone want to admit to looking at those?

After reviewing all 162 pictures in that series, I have decided to vote yes to eugenics...as a large percentage of those people must definitely be prevented from breeding.

...Now if you'll excuse me I have to go bleach my eyes..
121  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Want to be in my story? See inside. on: December 30, 2014, 10:14:41 PM
I'm game.

But I detest trying to describe/define myself, so you'll have to wing it. cheesy
122  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Looking for Windows Email Server Options on: December 27, 2014, 02:56:20 PM
For anyone else that might be shopping this question, I did also run across this: POP3 Server for Windows Server 2008/2012.

It looks like a great product, but I did not take the time to try it (it is dependent on the MS SMTP). And after experiencing the ease and simplicity of the hMailServer setup I don't feel bad about it either. Why, you may ask? Simple. The hMailServer cleanly did the one thing that the MS SMTP server never did want to do properly. Masquerade the Email server's actual internal name.
123  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: December 27, 2014, 02:43:39 PM
^Hay, at least it was just the one file. I've seen worse...much (much...) worse. Prior to XP SP2 blank passwords were allowed for network access. I've actually had to fight against disabling that policy to get an owner to "suffer" the "anguish" of typing their own initials - all lower case mind you ... And it was a knock down drag out fight to get them to use all three of them (Yeah, that's right...they wanted a 2 character password).

My father was often fond of saying: "Sympathy is in the dictionary...right between shit and syphilis". And I will love that quote till the day I die, because ... Some people really do deserve to get hacked.
124  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Looking for Windows Email Server Options on: December 27, 2014, 11:14:09 AM
Okay... So it took a metric forever for me to finally get around to doing this...but it is now done.

The old Windows Server 2003 POP/SMTP has been officially decommissioned, and I'm now running hMailServer on Server 2012 std.

The hMailServer setup was completely painless, and the administration is about as self explanatory as it can get. I'm currently running full logging to see how much of what the built-in spam filter actually kills, and so far it's all good.
125  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: December 27, 2014, 11:01:58 AM
I hear Ya ... I just like to watch shit run up hill on the odd occasion it happens.

And yes, I document everything. I also make frequent comments regarding/referring to said documented issue ... Just to make sure nobody get/has/even thinks about pretending to "forget" why something exists. cheesy
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