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1  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Stallman on Android on: September 21, 2011, 07:37:36 AM
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Google said it withheld the 3.0 source code because it was buggy…
This is not true.

Google told Engadget:
Android 3.0, Honeycomb, was designed from the ground up for devices with larger screen sizes and improves on Android favorites such as widgets, multi-tasking, browsing, notifications and customization. While we're excited to offer these new features to Android tablets, we have more work to do before we can deliver them to other device types including phones. Until then, we've decided not to release Honeycomb to open source. We're committed to providing Android as an open platform across many device types and will publish the source as soon as it's ready.

And in a separate blog post explaining Google's role in Android development Andy Rubin said:
Finally, we continue to be an open source platform and will continue releasing source code when it is ready. As I write this the Android team is still hard at work to bring all the new Honeycomb features to phones. As soon as this work is completed, we’ll publish the code. This temporary delay does not represent a change in strategy. We remain firmly committed to providing Android as an open source platform across many device types.
(All emphasis is my own.)

I understand the tech blogs not being able to read between the lines here (lord knows how easy they think it is to develop software), but I'm disappointed that after all this time the view from software developers hasn't gotten out or at least that Google hasn't explained it better.

The official repository, at least before Kernel.org was hacked, always contained the released source for Android and could be built for phones.  Picking up on the emphasis yet? - Android must run on phones.

Froyo (2.2) was intended only for phones and after its release Google created two internal branches:
Gingerbread (2.3) continued to be improvements for phones, and as such was released per usual.
Honeycomb (3.*) contained the changes to officially extend Android to tablets.


Google probably broke the build or compatibility/regression tests for phones in Honeycomb and if they were to commit these changes the official repository would no longer work for phones.

I get the feeling that they intended to merge Gingerbread into Honeycomb and release it, but due to whatever delays, Honeycomb won't be officially released now. Instead Ice Cream Sandwich (?.?) will merge Honeycomb, Gingerbread, and likely the Google TV branch into a single base.


Now we can focus on the real frustration with Google's "open" model for Android: they are essentially the only developers and they do their work in private. This would be a non-issue if all their branches were public, however, I feel there are valid reasons they aren't:
1. Google keeps a competitive edge without revealing their current & future plans.
2. Google can develop quicker without the many pull requests from the community (take it or leave it but at some point coordinating community efforts becomes more difficult than doing it yourself).
3. It removes a lot of speculation that they'd otherwise need to respond to.
4. It prevents companies from releasing products utilizing pre-production code, which is extremely important when many of these companies have shown an inability to release timely/any updates.

Which leaves the problem of making deals with companies allowing them to release products using code that won't be committed to public for months. Not sure how I feel about this since I'm not familiar with how difficult it would be to get similar access by a smaller company.



TL;DR: My opinion is that Google decided to withhold Honeycomb rather than commit code to the repository which wouldn't work on phones. 

The real frustration with their "open" model is their use of private branches but their possible reasoning seems valid.


Sorry for the long post, just getting tired of what I see as a logical decision continually being described as malice.
2  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows 8 Fast boot time ? Check this out... on: September 13, 2011, 07:14:58 AM
Meh... I really don't understand why the entire Internet seems to be fawning over this demo.

It's great that booting Windows may be quicker, but this doesn't seem like much of an improvement over current competition.

I have a Samsung Series 5 Chromebook, it boots in less than 10 seconds from cold.
My MacBook Pro with SSD boots quick enough as well - I've never bothered to time it but I'm always surprised by how quick it seems.

They also both have incredibly low powered sleep states which they can remain in for days without killing the battery and wake from instantaneously (at least to me).  This renders the longer cold boot times moot.

Again, it's fantastic seeing Windows boot up as quickly - though until our IT gives us anything other than XP and trims their 20 minutes of drive decrypting, start-up scripts, and updating I'm not sure I care.


But my biggest complaint is the video itself... It's a worthless demonstration.
We have no idea what the machine's specs are; they strongly imply it's SSD but no other info.
Taking out one battery proves nothing.
Not showing us the shutdown sequence means we don't know whether the laptop is actually booting up fresh or waking from hibernation. For all we know it's a virtual machine!

I watch that and cannot believe they'd waste time filming something so pointless...
And why the heck doesn't Microsoft have any tables?!?
3  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Want to be in Amazon's App Store? Think again! on: August 08, 2011, 06:19:09 AM
Part of the problem is many developers seem to think the answer to making profitable apps is still in selling the app itself.

I think there's more money in ads and in-app purchases and if they used either of those then Amazon giving away their app for free would have been a fantastic opportunity for them.

Mobile apps are the razors and printers of the software world.
4  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Android tablets to rival iPad on: July 26, 2011, 11:48:59 AM
… the 10.1 is not available (at least not in Europe).
Should be available in the UK pretty soon, so it's getting closer.  Wink
5  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Deduplication, encryption, security and... Dropbox on: July 20, 2011, 11:20:59 AM
Well, at least it isn't because of a security problem!

I actually think that makes it worse.  How can one trust their security code if they're having this much of a problem detecting how much space a user is using vs what they're allotted?
6  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is Mozilla trying to do? on: June 23, 2011, 09:41:42 AM
What am I doing making duplicates?  embarassed
7  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What is Mozilla trying to do? on: June 23, 2011, 09:38:24 AM
If I preferred to use a browser that changed the major version number every quarter just like Chrome does, I would use Chrome. Wouldn't I?

Why is Mozilla adopting this weird scheme of development, do you have any idea?
Well your first statement answers the second, does it not? tongue

The competition is moving to a schedule-driven release cycle to ensure the user is continually getting new features (among other reasons), could Mozilla afford to continue their feature-driven cycle without appearing out-dated, slow, or losing users? After all, Firefox 4 was in beta for almost a full year before it was released and in the time they went from 3.6 to 4.0, Google took Chrome from 4 to 10.


To be honest, I think Mozilla only made this change because they were able to see/understand the merit in Google's decision to change Chrome's release cycle. I don't believe they would have arrived at this on their own (at least not at present).


If you really want to delve into their decisions here's two good reads, also pretty good considerations for general project management:
http://mozilla.github.com...aft/development_overview/
https://docs.google.com/p...iew?id=dg63dpc6_4d7vkk6ch

The first also mentions that the time between 4 and 5 was meant to be short and transition them into their new cycle, so 5 to 6 might not feel as quick.


My take away is that it boils down to establishing a cadence and rhythm, sticking to it so the teams don't lose momentum, and freeing everyone involved from the stress of meeting/missing/setting a release date.
8  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tablet Discussion - in the market to buy on: June 09, 2011, 12:20:51 PM
I have a free offer for Safari for a 45 day trial with Effective C#... how is it?  I've always brushed it off because I can't see renting books.  But looking at it closer, I guess it would make sense.  I have so many outdated books because of the rate of technology changing, so maybe I need to change my view of things.  Can you only see them on the website?  So can you use them if you're offline?
I only used it briefly and it was through membership in the IEEE Computer society that gave limited access.  I don't recall it having the download tokens or any way to do offline at that time, not sure how much of the books got cached.  Also, I never did get to try the mobile site, so I only used it through Firefox, where it worked pretty well.  The selection of books was a subset of the full library which made finding the books I wanted hit or miss, and oddly they didn't show the books that were in the library but not available in my plan.

The way it works can be a bit confusing for an individual:
1) You get 10 slots.
2) You can preview parts of a book but to access the full content you have to place it in a slot.
3) You cannot remove the book from that slot until 30 days have passed.
So it seems more conducive to people that will read the book cover to cover, and less so for someone using it as an actual reference library.

Given all that it was good for how little I used it, and I can recommend giving it a try.  tongue

I haven't renewed my IEEE membership and Safari is the only thing I miss, but I don't feel I'd ever use my money's worth with the 10-slot plan.  I'd be willing to pay $120/year for a 3-5 slot plan, even if it meant losing the Video content, and I think that would meet my usage better.

What would be truly amazing is if they adopted an à la carte model where you pay a small monthly subscription for 1-slot and can at any time add/remove more slots for an additional fee, or pay more to add the Video/Rough Cuts/etc. offerings.  Seems I'm doing a lot of dreaming today.  embarassed
9  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tablet Discussion - in the market to buy on: June 09, 2011, 06:48:51 AM
Definitely agree on the last point.  And to give an example of what I'm talking about in lack of parity- four books that I just bought:
Ah, yes those are ridiculous.  I tend to buy all my technical books from O'Reilly, since they've shown an understanding and commitment to the digital formats - trying to offer everything in multiple DRM-free formats and with updates.  And really I just watch their Deal of the Day feed and wait for the books I want.

My hopes have increased for Wrox since they've recently started selling through O'Reilly; for instance, that WPF Programmer's Reference would be a much better deal from them at $35.99 than B&N.


My dream is that one day Safari Books will add a 3 or 5-slot bookshelf subscription level at no more than $10 per month (a little less than half the 10-slot level).  Combine that with some improvements to their mobile and offline support and I wouldn't hesitate to subscribe.

It's not that the 10-slot level isn't a good deal, but it's wasteful for my needs - like always ordering a foot-long sub but never eating more than 6".
10  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tablet Discussion - in the market to buy on: June 08, 2011, 08:29:44 AM
At first, I was buying because that was the format I already had- but now, comparing to Amazon, it seems that in *every* case, the price at B&N is quite a bit higher than the price at Amazon for the digital formats- even approaching hardcopy prices.  So I'm having a bit of a crisis in e-reading right now. Sad
For the books I've been buying recently the prices between the two are in parity, though admittedly I have noticed that in many other cases B&N prices tend to be a little more.  And often reference books are moronically priced (on both stores) - for a while I didn't believe anyone at Wrox had a brain because their e-books were only available at prices higher than the dead tree versions' list-prices and came with stupid restrictions on number of downloads and devices.

Personally, the difference has always been acceptable to me since B&N are selling me a less restrictive, but still stupid, DRM format.  My problem with the Kindle has always been their proprietary format platform lock-in.

That said, I find the B&N situation extremely frustrating since it should mean they are in competition with the Sony and Google bookstores which use the same format, and I think that should drive prices down.  Though, I imagine part of the problem is their contracts all ensure they get the lowest price and Amazon can afford to take a bigger loss.




However, with certain screen protectors, I can alleviate most of the glare issues for her.
I've yet to find a solution that I like, which is why if outdoor reading were a requirement I couldn't recommend anything other than e-ink.

While the PDMI is OK, I do not like having to buy custom cables to do basic things.
I'm not sure I'd have bought the Galaxy Tab myself because of this exact reason. There were a lot of people at IO that were disappointed to discover nothing but the PDMI.

I like that it means a thinner and lighter device but feel the least they could have done was thrown in the USB adapter. Note that they do include a USB male-A to PDMI cable for charging/syncing - I wonder if it would at all be possible to create a USB crossover cable?

The only reason I might hold off is for the quad core tablets coming out shortly. But, I am likely going to bite the bullet and buy her one as her laptop screen is just about shot.
Completely understandable, I suffer from technolust so I doubt I could have taken my own advice and made it through this summer.
11  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tablet Discussion - in the market to buy on: June 08, 2011, 06:26:41 AM
she loves to sit at a park and read. I do not want to get a dedicated e-reader
This is going to be frustrating with the vast majority of tablets, as there is too much glare to make them great for reading under the sun. When it comes to outdoor reading e-ink is incredible.

I have an original nook, a nook Color, and thanks to Google a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.

The original nook was a bit of a crazy experiment (those dual screens) but the e-ink is great for reading and nothing else.  The new nook looks to be getting some pretty glowing reviews, and it's been rooted, but I haven't read much about the experience beyond books.


I got the nook Color only because of the rooting community, and a bit of jealousy after getting my mother one for Christmas.  She likes it but she's only using it for reading.  I liked it as my first tablet, but since I still wanted to use the stock ROM there were quite a few quirks in using it that way.  If you root it and put Cyanogenmod and the nook app on it, you probably end up with a better experience, but you lose some of the stock features (kids books and until recently magazines).

In either case since you want to get her something that's a bit more of a laptop replacement I cannot suggest any of them; though I would recommended you forget the dream of consolidating the two and get her a dedicated e-book reader.


I was fortunate enough to attend Google IO this year where they gave everyone a special edition Galaxy Tab 10.1.  It's an impressive device and has certainly taken over all my after-work computer duties (something the nook Color couldn't quite achieve).  It's got front and rear cameras, stereo speakers, and Honeycomb 3.0 - the retail version has 3.1 but we haven't see an update yet. The display looks fantastic, the weight is light enough to not be annoying, the 10.1 size makes it a little bigger than I'd like for carrying (the 7" nook Color is more travel-ready) but the extra real estate is welcome when browsing the web.  It works fine for reading inside, but I tend to prefer the nook - both for the e-ink and there's fewer distractions ("One more chapter? Oh look I've got mail... time for some Angry Birds!")

It must have a USB port (full sized + mini-usb would be a plus) and hdmi output would be a nice to have.
Unfortunately, for Samsung to get it as light and thin as they did meant sacrificing all USB/HDMI ports for a non-standard PDMI-like connector and no SD card slots. The fact that Google is touting USB host support in 3.1 and then gave developers a tablet with no USB ports is disappointing to say the least.  That said there are adapters available to go from their connector to USB and HDMI, if you're open to going that route.


A number of other attendees have noted some issues with the screen separating from the device and indeed one of the corners on mine shows a little of this.  It's not bothersome (yet) but hopefully it's something they fixed in the retail version.



Since I got the Galaxy Tab I've kind of stopped paying attention to the horde of Android tablets being released, but one of my co-workers is pretty much sold on the Thrive.  It certainly looks to be a pretty solid device if you aren't after something sleek and sexy. It's also one of the heavier tablets out there, though Engadget's recent hands-on stated that it felt good in their hands and seemed lighter than they expected. The actual pictures of it were much better than Toshiba's mockups as well.

It might also be worth looking at the ASUS Transformer, I know it was released with 3.0, but it's yet another option.



To be perfectly honest though, I think I'd try to hold off on buying any tablet until Fall or 2012 - it's a young market with a ton of competitors so I expect a lot of quick improvements and some price drops in the near future.  Also, Apple is driving this market at the moment, so it might even make sense to see what they do with the iPad 3 since they'll likely be the ones pushing the goal markers for another year (or more) while the Android manufacturers catch up/flood the market.
12  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: After PSN. Who's next? on: May 05, 2011, 08:17:41 AM
Briefer version of the LastPass post: They saw an increase in activity on their server network and from one of their databases, but have been unable to identify the cause and are thus treating it as an intrusion.

It's possible that an intruder got the server's salt, users' e-mail addresses and their salted master-password hashes.  This means they could attempt to brute-force the hashes in the hopes of uncovering some passwords, use these to log in, and then would have access to the user's stored passwords.

To prevent this LastPass are forcing all users to reset their master-passwords, while they rebuild/verify the affected machines, and explore the anomaly.


It's nice to see LastPass taking the correct actions as Sony stumbles around for another month.
13  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Movies I Love to Listen To: Dialects and Accents on: April 04, 2011, 06:05:15 AM
I'm gonna add In Bruges.

Colin Farrell and Brendan Glesson using their normal Irish accents.
Ralph Fiennes in there too (though I'm not recalling his voice at the moment).
And, in case the title didn't give it away, it's set in and filmed in beautiful Bruges, Belgium.

However, it's not one to leave on when the kids (or strangers) are around:
Quote from: IMDB Trivia
The "F"-word and its derivatives are said 126 times in this 107-minute film, an average of 1.18 times per minute.
14  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: What Android Apps Do You Use? on: March 31, 2011, 12:10:59 PM
Also, they seem to have different prices than what's on the official Market. e.g. Angry Birds is free on Android Market but costs $0.99 on Amazon Appstore.
In this instance, it's because the version from Amazon doesn't have ads.  Not sure if that's the case for anything else though.


Couple other notes... you have to be able to enable app installation from Unknown Sources (Settings->Application->Unknown Sources) to not only install their store but also the apps you get from them.  Some carriers remove this or force it to disabled; hence all the messages about it not being supported on AT&T.

Also, I believe Amazon requires all apps in their store use their DRM and for an app to authorize your use it needs to communicate with the Appstore app.  Thus, while you can install the Appstore app on multiple devices and use your apps on all of them, your apps may quit working if you uninstall the Appstore.


Isn't it great living in this country-limited, carrier-restricted, DRM-ed world?  wallbash
15  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Apple: if we get you subscribers, we deserve a cut on: February 18, 2011, 05:52:23 AM
Any thoughts on what recourse affected companies have since Apple has pulled a bait and switch once again?

I'm really dreaming that instead of bowing to Apple's demands we see a mass exodus of developers, including the big (Netflix, Amazon) and popular (Hulu, LastPass) ones.
16  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: SyncBack with Dummy Profiles on: December 06, 2010, 11:37:59 AM
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Price Changes For 2011
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We´ve kept prices of our software licenses frozen for two and a half years, and our volume discounts have been a steal over the same period. Now is the time to grab your license as price changes come into play as of 1st January 2011.
Guess I should look into upgrading to the Pro license... anyone have experience and feel it's actually a worthwhile upgrade?

I'm not interested in backing up to optical media, e-mail, or SFTP, and not sure BZip2 compression really makes that much of a difference.
The drive failure detection and scripting might be nice and $20 to upgrade isn't bad. Hmmm...
17  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Looking for a good no-frills podcatcher on: December 02, 2010, 07:26:04 AM
I think I was after something different than you, a multi-device synced solution, but here's some things I went through on my similar search.

My main goal was finding a way of keeping my feeds in sync between my desktop at home and my laptop, where I do most of my listening, at work..

At first I was using the Zune software on my desktop to subscribe and download, sync the files to my external drive and then play them whereever.  But I wanted to get away from having to take the external drive out of my bag each day.

Then I started using Foobar2000 with the Podcatcher component portably, which worked well but I still wasn't satisfied with keeping them in sync, and I got a new phone that I wanted to start using as well.

That's when I tried Google's Listen app for Android, which integrates with Google Reader, and that was just an awful mess. It works alright, but it was difficult when a podcast would show up in Google Reader, and I'd have to keep it new until I listend for it to show up in Listen.


I like Google Reader for RSS, and now that I had moved my podcast subscriptions into it, I found that I liked it better than Zune (which I didn't dare install on my work PC).  Thus, I decided to just manage things myself. Currently, I subscribe in Google Reader and when a new podcast shows up I download it to my Dropbox folder.

Then I can download it on my phone or play it from any of my devices (they all have Dropbox) in whatever player I want.  Once I've listened I just delete it from Dropbox and that's it.


It's not a nice automated solution, but it's a simple one that meets my needs, and there's no software trying to be too smart or flashy getting in the way.
18  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: iPod - tell me why I should buy one on: December 02, 2010, 06:18:09 AM
anyone know is Zune no longer available in Europe ?
I can only find accessories  huh
I don't think they've ever sold the Zune outside of North America.

With Windows Phone 7 they finally expanded the Zune Pass and Marketplace internationally, so maybe the next revision of the Zune-line will also be available to the rest of the world.

not so sure about this item though, it seems somewhat bulkier than I would prefer, and the general consensus seemed to be that the battery life was lousy
It's a terribly dated device at this point. I own one which I still use and I get a day or two out of the battery.  By today's standards it is incredibly bulky however it's really no where near as bad as it appears in pictures.

Being so outdated I wouldn't recommended this, but it's not an awful purchase at that price.
19  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: iPod - tell me why I should buy one on: November 17, 2010, 11:15:54 AM
Dropbox sync for some useful files, password management sync'd through dropbox, etc.

The podcast management in iTunes is reasonably well done, and also simplifies the way I use them.
I don't suppose you could use Dropbox to do the majority of media syncing for the Touch, could you?
20  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Google Chrome: Time for a Second Chance? on: October 18, 2010, 07:01:44 AM
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If you really want this feature, be patient. It's going to come. If you can't wait,
use another browser. Complaining on the issue tracker is not going to get the feature implemented any sooner so please refrain from spamming the 300+ people that have this issue starred.

The code monkeys there seem to feel that printing from a browser is not a true primary function.
I don't know that I would take this comment as any indication of how the "code monkeys" actually feel. It's a sentiment often expressed in similar comments found in many of the "popular" issues on Google's trackers, and not just for Google products.

One of the problems with Google's tracker is that by default if you Star an issue you receive update e-mails for every comment posted.  So you'll get a bug like this that a number of people want to see fixed, and it'll get posted on elsewhere, and people who don't know anything about issue trackers will flood the comments with "+1" and "I want this fixed too!" posts that get e-mailed to everyone who has starred the issue.

This then leads to some people who understand how the tracker works trying to get this flood to stop by posting something like the above, but that typically doesn't work. Plus the moderators have the ability to remove comments, and I don't believe doing so leaves any trace so you end up with comments like the one you quoted where it has some useful information but also a plea to stop the spamming.

In comment 66, there's evidence of this happening over a year after the comment you quoted:
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I've locked this bug to non-committer comments, since someone flooded the help forum with links to this bug along with a suggestion that spamming it with comments would be helpful, when in fact all that will do is spam hundreds of people and make this bug less useful for anyone actually trying to work on it.

If you want to express interest in seeing this fixed and get email updates when something changes, star this issue.

I'm sure somewhere there's an issue report begging Google to make the option to e-mail updates a granular setting that can be applied on a per-issue basis, and it's probably been flooded with "+1" and "Yes please" comments by people trying to be clever.
21  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Mini-Review of JungleDisk and ZumoDrive on: July 10, 2010, 11:12:55 AM
Jungle Disk just announced a new version in beta (v3.1) which will make public sharing easier.
http://blog.jungledisk.co...lic-file-sharing-is-here/
22  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: App Culture vs. Free Culture on: July 07, 2010, 08:16:06 PM
It's outrageously high, I think. You do 100% of the work and they take 30%!
But you aren't doing 100% of the work.  You aren't maintaining a website, you don't have a store, you don't pay any of the fees to collect money from your customers, you aren't paying for the bandwidth to push this all to customer devices.  None of that comes cheap and it all eats into time that could be better spent on the app.

Go ahead and sell you $0.99 app to customers through PayPal; they're going to take $0.10 to $0.33 cents of every purchase and they are doing a heck of a lot less than Apple for you.

The only reason Apple, et al., set up "app stores" is to get their pound of flesh.
Oh come on!  The app stores also serve purposes for the consumer and the developer.  There is a great convenience for both that comes with creating a central location to sell/purchase apps.

I'll bet if I sold Apple hardware in my own store, they wouldn't let me take 30% of the $600 for an iPhone.
Of course not, but that's not how you'd sell it anyhow.  They'd sell it to you, the distributor, and then you'd price it pretty much however you like and sell it to the consumer.  The app stores are a different distribution model more like consignment shops.



The only problem I see with the App Store is the fact that developers and consumers have no other (entirely legal) option when it comes to iOS devices.  There is no competition to Apple's 70-30 deal.  If they allowed installing apps from other stores or side-loading like Android does then your entire completely controlled nightmare doesn't exist.  Fine, it would still it exist but what would it matter how bad their store is if no one has to use it?
23  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: App Culture vs. Free Culture on: July 07, 2010, 06:13:54 AM
Don't forget that despite not coding one line in your app, Apple willingly takes 30% of your profit off the top. That's effing greedy, folks!
As does Google if you sale in their market, and I believe Microsoft said their mobile store would be the same or similar.  Is 30% that bad when you consider it means you don't have to set up a store, actually handle credit card fees, or pay for the bandwidth? I'm seriously asking as it doesn't seem that bad to me.

I dislike Apple's policies and the corporate attitude they project, but I'm not sure I see this 70-30 split being so outrageous.


Now the fact that a developer interested in selling an iOS app to non-jailbreaking users has no other choice but to accept Apple's 70-30 deal is absolutely maddening.
24  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Mini-Review of JungleDisk and ZumoDrive on: July 06, 2010, 09:24:04 AM
JungleDisk is cheap, reliable, and just works, with a lot of options for use to boot.  However, if you need to share your data, know that there are no options for that.
This is correct that within JungleDisk there is no way to share files, but if you use the 'Compatible' disk format (at least for Amazon S3) you can use another tool like S3 Fox or Cloudberry Explorer to modify the ACL permissions so that the files are accessible by anyone or even behind passworded accounts.

So it is possible but Dropbox and others beat the pants off it for ease of sharing use.

I always thought using Jungle Disk with Amazon S3 would have the advantage of being able to read the files via other apps - e.g. Cloudberry, or possibly amazon's new online 'Console'. But this is not the case - it's a garbled bunch of folders
As I mentioned above if you use the old 'Compatible' disk format they should be accessible in other apps just fine, but you lose some of the Jungle Disk features.

More details on the differences here.



I really like Jungle Disk, but recently I've been considering making the move to Dropbox for most of my daily cloud needs and using Jungle Disk solely for the less often used backups.  The reason is simply that progress of Jungle Disk seems to have really slowed.

Since RackSpace acquired Jungle Disk they seem to have been primarily concentrating on getting their cloud service into a state closer to Amazon S3.  They also tend to be focusing on offering product(s) for reselling space/service instead of directly targetting the end-user.  They have an iOS app but I haven't seen any mention of Android.  I know they are making improvements but it's not necessarily on things I'd like to see (and I'm partly to blame for not actively requesting and pursuing changes, but I'm not doing so in Dropbox either).

Meanwhile, Dropbox already has iOS and Android apps allowing me to easily sync my KeePass database with my Nexus One.  They have the browser extensions so it should remain easy to access in Chrome OS and other netbook-geared OSes that make it more difficult to just install normal applications.  They recently announced developer APIs which I think could lead to some interesting features in the future.

My only reservations with Dropbox are:
1) The space seems costly, and I'm not a fan of refferrals so I haven't maxed out the free space.
2) I'd like a way to NOT sync some data to the local host(s); so I could download it from the cloud when needed but not necessarily waste local space on the item(s).

*shrugs* That's my (rather long) two-cents.
25  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Apple, you win: we're pulling out of the App Store (Appsfire) on: June 10, 2010, 11:49:53 AM
Shame that after the title it just reads as an empty threat...
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Meanwhile, and until we get approved, we'll be considering out-of-store alternatives, or until we get any sort of professional & constructive discussion going.
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Note to our many users: we know many of you are waiting for our new version. We're confident things will change sooner or later.
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we have not removed AppsFire v2. from the waiting position in review.
We have removed our current Appsfire v1.0 which we believe is not serving our cause well.
If they're going to pull out of the App Store then do it already, but it sure sounds like they're just making a threat to get some attention in the hopes that Apple will then respond to quench the fires. Roll Eyes
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