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1  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: I'd like to get a Windows Tablet: help me decide. on: October 27, 2014, 11:31:35 AM
And I just can't get into android, even though I have one now (my nook).  Things just seem so much harder to get done.  I was thinking that my Nook might be the gateway into Android for me.  But It's turned out to be the exact opposite- I just use it for reading.

There's no getting away from the fact that getting into any new system is a lot of effort and you need to know there's a payback for it, preferably with some kind of fairly instant gratification.
In my case it was the phone and ability to organise (and I had been previously used to Palm & earlier Windows mobiles); not sure an ereader would ever have done it for me.
And then, when I was trying iOS, I could see the productivity bonuses available when I got a system sorted.

And a lot of things are harder to get done.
Though a bunch of others are much easier.
And I can carry a phone/tablet & keyboard around in my pockets which isn't an option with a laptop.
The productivity all depends on what you are doing and how you do it.
2  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: I'd like to get a Windows Tablet: help me decide. on: October 27, 2014, 08:54:08 AM

If we're talking about serious work and serious productivity, aren't laptops fulfilling this purpose?

Not for me.
Not as light, not as flexible, and assumes that all your 'writing' is entered on the keyboard.

I have a high quality, light Logitech bluetooth keyboard. I can use it with my phones & tablets depending on what I have with me.
I find that, for a lot of the time, my writing implement of choice is the stylus so the keyboard is optional, depending on what I am doing.
Screens on laptops aren't as good, unless you spend huge amounts of money.
I have a Windows (Cool laptop/tablet combo. Quite light. Works well for what it is. But I don't use it very much because I'm less productive with it, and it is much less convenient to get out when I'm out and about and have just the odd 5 or 10 minutes for a bit of work.

But going down the tablet route does mean completely changing your system and the progs you use.
Unless you go Surface, and, I suspect, even with that you would be better off adapting your system and progs to your new device.
3  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: I'd like to get a Windows Tablet: help me decide. on: October 27, 2014, 05:27:58 AM
Android and iOS, regardless of the size of the screen, can't really do much beyond media consumption (gross exaggeration, but valid when compared to a Windows PC).

To say 'gross exaggeration' is putting it mildly. I do little media consumption (and never looked for music videos  Grin ). There are heavyweight programs on PCs that don't really have an equivalent on Android or iOS. But I find that I don't use those programs for the vast majority of my 'productivity' time. And when I do, I actually want to be at my desk using my big monitors. The use of digitizer pen technology has transformed my ability to use tablets and phones for productivity (and led me to move to the Samsung Note series in both cases - Surface Pro is only a tablet and massively expensive in comparison).

But with the desktop computer, you are still tethered to a cubicle, with the only reason for not being at another location being "secuirty".  But with the tablets, sheesh, that will be a more difficult argument.  Make calls on your phone, do your work on your tablet...don't need buildings or any location specific needs.

I can already tell that as connected as I am, this surface pro tablet has really made an impact on me, this is the future. 

Pretty much agree with all this.

I suspect MS would have more traction in this space if
a) it hadn't already lost the consumer end of the market
b) it was cheaper
c) W8 were less horrible
d) the phones/tablets formed a coherent whole system
e) it were easier to see that Windows was going in a desired direction

Lets all clap for Ballmer greenclp
4  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: I'd like to get a Windows Tablet: help me decide. on: October 27, 2014, 05:10:57 AM
Here's something to consider for the future ...

http://www.howtogeek.com/...ones-are-killing-tablets/

Can see the logic if phones get bigger - 6.5" screen almost the same as a 7" tablet.

Misuses statistics - says tablets still growing, PCs may have stopped falling - but tries to give the impression that tablets are flagging (iPads certainly are) and being caught by PCs in the growth stakes. May happen, but it hasn't already happened.

Says tablets can't do multiple windows. Samsung Note can. & the pen can be used similarly to a mouse. Or can just use a mouse.

There's a lot more water to float under these bridges. Usage will continue to change fast and development of devices and ODs continues apace.
5  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Google's new Inbox powered by Gmail on: October 26, 2014, 07:58:54 AM
I don't really see the problem - though I only know the tiny bits I have seen on the net.

Seems to be another Google beta project, in this case a supplement to gmail, primarily for use on mobiles.
Possibly competes with some other mobile email apps, but no impact on desktop. Apparently only a crude version so far on ChromeOS, so not at all surprising that it only works as a Chrome extension: it's not really standalone except on Android & iOS.

Half agree about the name, but it makes some sort of sense if it is seen as an optional component of gmail.
6  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: SoftMaker Office HD, the only complete Office for Android tablets, free beta rev on: October 20, 2014, 12:09:06 PM
Tried opening a password protected file from the latest version of MS Word.
TextmakerHDbeta wouldn't do it because it doesn't support that version of password protection  huh

Polaris opened the file in a non-editable form; I can cope with that.

But Textmaker did open a password protected file (docx as well as its own format) from the desktop version of Softmaker, and I can cope with that quite well. smiley

Overall, it does seem to have a lot of functionality and for someone who seems to be moving my productivity work away from my desk (PC) and tables (laptop) where I can, it does look very useful. I probably ought to revisit Kingsoft but I'm not sure I have the motivation.
7  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Ad Muncher 5 will be free on: October 20, 2014, 10:50:40 AM
And two years of making losses presumably meant that options were limited.
And I noticed that the donation options were at a reasonable level and the free use may attract lots of new people to try it and some of them might decide to make donations.
I certainly hope it goes well, but it isn't looking obviously optimistic, especially if there is a massive rise in pressure on their web server.
8  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Mind Mapping Software - What are the current top players now? on: October 19, 2014, 05:17:44 AM
Yes, it integrates with Scrivener... but I haven't seen an integration with Evernote. Sad

Ooops  embarassed
Shouldn't try to respond when I clearly didn't have time to read or think properly.
At least I remembered what I had originally intended to write  undecided
9  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Mind Mapping Software - What are the current top players now? on: October 10, 2014, 01:13:07 PM
Will probably end up buying Scapple, if only because of integration with Evernote

... what integration?  I looked it up after I saw your post, thinking I'd missed something.  I don't see anywhere that it integrates with Evernote...?

I might well be wrong, as I've only just had a quick look at it so far. I picked the comment up from this:-
There are also some free concept mappers out there, such as Visual Understanding Environment (VUE) (which I prefer) and CmapTools. Neither of these are hierarchical mind mappers, i.e. they do not force you to build a tree-like hierarchy. But they may not integrate with Scrivener as nicely as Scapple does, of course.

And any level of integration with Scrivener would be a plus for me.
10  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Mind Mapping Software - What are the current top players now? on: October 10, 2014, 07:59:23 AM
FWIW, a number of times that I've drawn these sorts of diagrams, I've felt that I run out of space -- and part of the point for me is to be able to take in stuff all at once. 
Agreed. One of the first things I checked for each app was how big a virtual sheet could I have.
I find the zoom is good enough for me most of the time - I don't do really huge diagrams.
Also find that the quality of the stylus/digitiser is critical for the pen approach to be functional.
11  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Mind Mapping Software - What are the current top players now? on: October 10, 2014, 04:27:07 AM
I quite liked the look of Gingko, but couldn't possibly use an app that relied on internet access.

I like VUE, Compendium etc, but don't often use them because they seem too much trouble. Agree with the idea that I want something quicker/rougher for my own use rather than prettification. Will probably end up buying Scapple, if only because of integration with Evernote Scrivener (and L&L's very reasonable pricing model smiley).

I'm probably with Superboyac on this. I don't notice any of ewemoa's problems with my tablet (res 2560x1600, Octs core, 32GB) and can have infinite sheet size using Papyrus; though maybe I simply haven't developed his level of discrimination. And the good thing for me is that I am actually using it instead of playing about every now and again.

I will eventually have a look at Brain. So many comments saying it is different, but I haven't yet and it seems like a lot of work for 95% of the things I'd be wanting to do in idea visualisation.

From my point of view, a writing system has to be hierarchical because the final product will start at the beginning and proceed to an end (so could imagine using Gingko if weren't online). But information and ideas are rarely hierarchical even though they may have an apparent hierarchy through increasing detail/depth.
12  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Outline 4D >>50% off sale<< (only $50) on: October 06, 2014, 01:41:42 PM
Thanks for the templates. I've not tested what they do yet because of too much to do + system switching.

I've stopped trying to use iPads for for more general activities (rather than the specific use I bought them for) & switched to using the Samsung Note system, purely because it gives me very good stylus functionality and it just seems much easier to use Android as part of a multi-OS system. (Some) iPad apps very good, and I've worked hard to try to get them into a productive system, but it I've never been able to get it to work well. And I had a Damascene conversion moment when I realised the importance of the stylus after finding myself carting a pen and notebook around with me all the time because I liked writing things out and seeing them the way I wrote them. So busy system tweaking atm, but still happy with the overall feel of Outline 4D, at least for moment. Though I do have a suspicion that a stylus, keyboard & pad will be what I end up using most of the time - but that will usually be after the Outline 4D bit, and I can use O4D (maybe) when I work in Windows..
13  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Outline 4D >>50% off sale<< (only $50) on: September 21, 2014, 08:10:36 AM
Also, when you open the RTF export in MS Word, the headings are not automatically recognised. For this reason it's a good idea to set up a template with different formatting for each level of heading in O4D, and then in MS Word you can use the "find text with similar formatting" tool and apply the heading levels manually.

Would that be true in all word processors? I might try it with a number of them to see if there is any difference. It's not a major issue for me as I would probably do headings manually at the end anyway, when I was thinking about layout.

It has also struck me, while I have been looking at these, that the constantly developing ToDoList may well be perfectly effective for organising and writing now, with custom columns, filters, gantt chart and calendar views. It would actually meet all the criteria I have been applying to the other programs; and probably more. I will probably give it a go some time.
14  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Outline 4D >>50% off sale<< (only $50) on: September 21, 2014, 05:06:51 AM
I've now had a closer look at O4D and played with it a bit.
I can now remember investigating it before and discounting it then on the basis of its age and abandonment. Now its quite a few years older, and longer abandoned - but much cheaper. And I have never been put of buying a program because it is no longer being developed, if it will do what I want now. Seems to use only a limited number of RTF features - no tables, no images - but it is quite a nice environment for writing and I find the timeline feature quite helpful, though I don't think I use it in the way that the writers expect. But then, I'm not a screenwriter.

My favourite writing environment remains TreeDBNotes - also largely frozen in time, but then virtually all outliners seem to be - but O4D seems to help more with keeping the mass of a really long text in the mind; or so I anticipate. But it doesn't help keep info, sources etc available in the way that Scrivener and TreeDB can. But very easy to use for the pure writing.

While I was looking around, I also found that Aeon Timeline had finally made its way to Windows, so that was an extra, and unexpected, gain. smiley

However, I don't think the "Timeline View" feature works too well. If you're interested in "horizontal" outlining (writing in adjacent linked columns), as opposed to "vertical" outlining, then I'd recommend Gingko App for that, or even Freeplane. Here is my Gingko review/mini tutorial, if that's of interest.

I had a quick look at Gingko but anything that relies on web access will too often be inaccessible for me to rely on.
I have Freeplane, but never found myself using it that much. Has always felt a bit fiddly, but I've only felt I needed mindmaps every now and then and just use the program that seems to give the best presentation for what I have in mind at the time.

Also looked at the rest of your workflow and ConnectedText. But CT seems to be too much keyboard for me to cope with, and, for some reason, I've never tended to get on well with wikis. I will probably go on relying on Evernote, OneNote and TreeDB for these functions (and SearchEverything). And I can see that I will just do more and more in Evernote. It requires no thought, allows me to do virtually everything with the mouse, is easy to dump everything into it and I could organise it if I wanted to.
15  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Outline 4D >>50% off sale<< (only $50) on: September 20, 2014, 07:05:51 AM
For some reason, I'd never come across this one before. Maybe because I'd always preferred the idea of outliners with a minimum of 2 panes. But quite intriguing with the timeline feature,and I can see how it might be a good environment for actually writing.

But a strange and unusual program compared to others which mostly look and work in ways I am familiar with. Thanks also to Dr Andus for his reviews and comments.

Limited trial though,and it seems as if it can be complex and will take longer to get properly into trialling it, even for people who are faster than me. So probably best to decide to jump in or not.  undecided
16  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Looking for desktop calendar software that can sync with Google Calendar on: September 15, 2014, 09:14:15 AM
I have EPIM & eMClient (Pro versions) running all the time (use them for different things, but also as an extra form of email backup on my computer).
But, for a calendar, I only use Vueminder synchronising with Google. Far too many options that I use to consider switching away from it. It must be the best windows calendar atm. I can't remember the last time I entered something into Google Calendar directly.
17  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: I'd like to get a Windows Tablet: help me decide. on: August 04, 2014, 03:49:04 AM
So I have a Surface pro now.

You never did need help to decide. You just wanted someone to say it was sensible  smiley
18  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Real RAM amount consumed on: August 04, 2014, 03:44:59 AM
However, there are 82 processes running on your system. That might be a bit on the high side.

Oh dear, I have 260. embarassed
I would have to run very lean and mean to get down to 80.
19  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: World's weirdest file manager on: July 25, 2014, 02:27:29 AM
Only looked at the screenshots, but seems interesting to me to.
Then again, I seem to like file managers, have licences to quite a few and use each for specific tasks - and they nearly all do straightforward stuff well enough.
20  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Best note-taking setup with tablet and keyboard? on: January 13, 2014, 04:54:03 AM
For this purpose, I'd discount Windows unless you specifically require access to Windows programs. Too expensive, too heavy, unnecessary.

Actually, the tablets are not the same as what you might be accustomed to.

I purchased a Dell Venue Pro 8, and it was $329 for a 64GB tablet with full windows 8.1 and office, is comparable in weight to the iPad Mini, and if I wasn't already tied into the iOS infrastructure, I'd be really happy with it.

I do have a W8 combo laptop/tablet (few months old) and find the tablet usage far less intuitive than Android or iOS. And for the main use of the Windows progs, I go to my (thankfully still W7) desktop. I think the comments on cost stand (maybe not always in relation to iOS, I accept) - that Dell with 32gb is £249 in the UK. I agree that weight depends on the options you compare, so my comment might be misplaced there.

However, I do think that for a single note use, and with minimising the extra cost being important, the choice really comes down to Android or Chromebook.
21  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Best note-taking setup with tablet and keyboard? on: January 12, 2014, 07:07:44 PM
For this purpose, I'd discount Windows unless you specifically require access to Windows programs. Too expensive, too heavy, unnecessary.

If you want an attached keyboard, I'd go with Chrome - though it seems that there will be a lot more options and possibly lower prices later this year.

Otherwise (and especially if you might use stylus inpurt for drawing or writing), I'd go with a tablet & keyboard. Lighter & can be cheaper, & the keyboard could also be used with your phone. I don't see any real advantage with an iPad, so would go Android because you would have more options and, as Superboyac pointed out, you have far more control; and cheaper. And, personally, I'd go 7" rather than 10". I find the advantages of lightness and portability outweigh the advantage of screensize in nearly all circumstances - though my eyesight is good; in the UK I'd probably choose between Nexus and Hudl, but there are lots of low cost options. Keyboard, I'd go for quality and choose the size that suited you best; one advantage of this approach is that you don't have to be stuck with a keyboard the size of the screen.
22  Other Software / Found Deals and Discounts / Re: XYplorer offers 50% competitive discount for Directory Opus users on: December 23, 2013, 07:10:39 AM
Tit for tat, as they say. Wink

Don,

I agree it is tit for tat in principle - but not on this site. I would have preferred to have our attention drawn to the DOpus campaign together with your response.

I own, like and use XY and DO (and also regularly like and use Q-Dir). I would be surprised if many purchasers of DO think it is bloated because I would have expected users who didn't need that range of features to be put off by the price which is massively higher than all(?) the competition.

All that said, I fully support your fight back against that very targeted crossgrade campaign.

23  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Adblock Plus Letting Ads By on: November 11, 2013, 03:40:48 PM
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I wanted to ask..what is the current thought on ad muncher? Is this still a viable option? Development seems to have halted and looking at the forums shows that the developer hasn't been present since March.

I thought he was there on Saturday. And often before that.
Not that I pay much attention. I have Ad Muncher; I find it mostly works pretty well, so I forget it is there (unless I disable it & forget to turn it back on and wonder why I am seeing ads embarassed)
24  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Cross-platform apps? on: September 29, 2013, 10:23:12 AM
Update

Seems as if I will gradually be leaving behind a lot of the programs I have used for many years on Windows, purely for some consistency in having things on all my devices and knowing how things work in them. I'm stuck with needing to do this with iPads for now, but longer term am likely to be able to give that up and just go with Windows/Linux and Android. Very surprised at how few programs seem to be available on all these platforms.

Office-wise I decided to upgrade to Office365, but also have Softmaker and Google apps I can use instead. But I've also been reminded that my preference is for database based programs rather than having everything saved in individual files.

Evernote probably works better the more it is used, so that's fine. There is very little that it does really well but being available, syncing well and doing a lot of things makes it really useful.

Mendeley works well on iPad and Windows and Scholarley isn't too bad a mirror on Android.

Lastpass is ubiquitious. And even without checking I'm sure Truecrypt and Keepass will be there too.

Handwriting/drawing apps rarely seem to cross platforms. Note Anywhere does, and does most of the things I want, so I will probably go with that although its functionality seems to vary massively from one platform to another.

Outliner/writing programs will require my biggest change and most seem to be on one platform only. Scrivener has versions for Mac, iPad and PC and the Android version is supposed to be coming in the next month or two. I've tried Workflowy and can see what it does and why it should work for me (and why it might be better than many of the progs I have been using), but it's not going to come easily, so may well take the usual year or two, or three+, before I get into it.

PS I absolutely hate W8. Might be designed for touch, but it doesn't work well, let alone compare to iOS or Android, and the store has so little detail and virtually no reviews.
25  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Cross-platform apps? on: September 21, 2013, 01:50:15 PM
Not sure if this take on things would work for you...

Sometimes the program itself is important, but other times it's simply the output. If the output is the important part, then what about using different applications that can handle the same output? e.g. MS Office on Windows, Libre Office on Linux, etc.

I'm not sure either  undecided

It is sort of what I do at the moment with MS Office and Softmaker Office. And I can automate the backups to the cloud (I think). I've never really used this type of program on Android, but can see that I might want to if I have 10" tablets I'm really not sure that I want to learn new progs for the iPad if they're not essential though. I suppose that would be the big attraction of Office365 for me, though just sticking with what I have would be cheaper.

Somehow feels that a single ecosystem will be easier, but now that ecosystem will be the apps themselves rather than the OS.

I can feel myself slipping right into Evernote as a key part of that, which feels very odd after all the debates post 2.2.
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